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Romney to Trump: Obama Doesn't Need a Birth Certificate
Forbes ^ | 04/12/2011 | DANIEL FREEDMAN

Posted on 04/12/2011 2:35:48 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta

According to Romney family lawyers it doesn't matter if Barack Obama was born in Hawaii, Kenya, or even Paris: Because his mother was an American (and not even Donald Trump questions that), he is eligible to be President....posted using frpa

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Mexico
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To: kabar; Radix
Not really a matter of law, but of administrative due process. ICE and its predecessor has been doing this for the last 50 years or so. At the same time through most of that period when a visiting couple came to America and had a baby while here they required that the baby be added to the FAMILY VISA.

American citizens do not, of course, need any sort of visa to be in their own country. So, what kind of message was being sent? Was it that legal visitors with visas were classified differently than other visitors who had not yet bothered to pick up their visas?

Since this is all based on administrative decisions, and not those of the judiciary or Congress, it's entirely possible that ICE and State Department could be directed by Congress to cease and desist from making the birthright citizenship decision, and to WITHDRAW all previous decisions.

After all, that's what's done when virtually any administrative decision is reversed or withdrawn. Life then goes on as if it had never been made ~ IRRESPECTIVE OF COST OR CONDITION of those affected.

That'd probably strip the Democrat party of 30 million votes!

61 posted on 04/12/2011 3:11:05 PM PDT by muawiyah (Make America Safe For Amercans)
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To: FreeAtlanta

What kind of family has family lawyers?


62 posted on 04/12/2011 3:12:18 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: TexasCajun

If I read your chart correctly, McCain was not eligible.

Is that how you read it?


63 posted on 04/12/2011 3:12:18 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: kabar; Radix

Oh, lest I forget, this would definitely call into question the current Romney’s own privilege of running for President. After all, if his grandpa wasn’t really a citizen, and his dad wasn’t really a citizen, then maybe he’s not really a citizen.


64 posted on 04/12/2011 3:14:03 PM PDT by muawiyah (Make America Safe For Amercans)
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To: FreeAtlanta
Hey Mitt! The question here is “ Did BOzo, Pelosi and Reid as well as the whole dem party commit fraud by lying about who and what BOzo is, where he was born and is he eligible.”
65 posted on 04/12/2011 3:17:47 PM PDT by jetson
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To: eddie willers; TexasCajun
Irrespective of where he was born, McCain's father was under American orders to be there, and his mother was a dependent of his father also governed by American law and subject to those orders.

McCain was born well within the jurisdictional bounds of the United States.

Obama's baby daddy was a foreign national in the US for his own interests. Any claim to American citizenship rests with his mother's status under the law in 1961.

66 posted on 04/12/2011 3:18:19 PM PDT by muawiyah (Make America Safe For Amercans)
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To: FreeAtlanta

Well, a Romney nomination will make Nancy Pelosi happy - because it won’t matter as much who actually gets elected.

Obama or Romney? What’s the diff? We have our “shared values”, don’t we?

Here’s what the moroness had to say on the subject:

“To my Republican friends: take back your party. So that it doesn’t matter so much who wins the election, because we have shared values about the education of our children, the growth of our economy, how we defend our country, our security and civil liberties, how we respect our seniors, . Because there are so many things at risk right now — perhaps in another question I’ll go into them, if you want. But the fact is that elections shouldn’t matter as much as they do ...But when it comes to a place where there doesn’t seem to be shared values then that can be problematic for the country, as I think you can see right now.”


67 posted on 04/12/2011 3:19:43 PM PDT by John Valentine
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To: The_Media_never_lie

“What kind of family has family lawyers?”

The Kennedy family had lawyers.
All mob families have lawyers.
Dementia patients often have lawyers.
I think you get the picture...Romney’s in good company.


68 posted on 04/12/2011 3:20:06 PM PDT by DrC
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To: Diogenesis

“What is it with Romney? Always DEFENDING Obama...”

Why, or why does Romney want to use McCain’s losing game plan?


69 posted on 04/12/2011 3:21:02 PM PDT by texteacher
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To: eddie willers
Posted it from another thread while at work and haven't really studied it.

I've been changing my focus on where he was born to him needing two US Citizen parents to be POTUS.

70 posted on 04/12/2011 3:21:13 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: muawiyah
No, it is a matter of law. It is part the US Code and is used as the basis to issue US Passports.

§ 1401. Nationals and citizens of United States at birth

71 posted on 04/12/2011 3:22:35 PM PDT by kabar
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To: FreeAtlanta

Keep digging the hole you’re in Mittens, if fact grab a bigger shovel.


72 posted on 04/12/2011 3:23:34 PM PDT by The Cajun (Palin, Bachmann, Free Republic, Mark Levin, Rush, Hannity......Nuff said.)
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To: Diogenesis

Too Funny. Romney the Magic RINO.


73 posted on 04/12/2011 3:29:38 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (Democrats have spent...More than the Republicans have.)
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To: phockthis
Here's the question that's been bothering me...

What would happen if Trump managed to prove, beyond a shadow of a doubt that Obama was not eligible to be president?

Granted I'm no constitutional scholar, buts in my layman's reading of the constitution, it seems that the only way to remove a president from office once he was been sworn in is impeachment, there is no mention of what would happen if a president was found not to be qualified after the fact. So assuming that impeachment was the only option, I don't see a chance in heck of getting 19 democrat senators (assuming we could even count on all republicans) to remove him. The liberal dems will drag out there "living constitution" argument, scream racism, and claim the citizenship question is nothing more than a archaic technicality. The best outcome I could see would be Obama barred from running in 2012.

74 posted on 04/12/2011 3:30:01 PM PDT by apillar
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To: muawiyah

It also rests on where he was born.

The argument is easily made that EITHER the parent or place of birth are sufficient to satisfy the “natural born” requirement.

That would be the most liberal interpretation of course, but I expect thats what would prevail.


75 posted on 04/12/2011 3:30:54 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: FreeAtlanta

Myth’s grandfather and father were born in Mexico


76 posted on 04/12/2011 3:31:03 PM PDT by MissDairyGoodnessVT (I am keeping the faith, I have not finished my course and I am fighting for the good)
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To: kabar
The regulations based on the legislation are used to guide issuance of passports. Doesn't matter if you have a law in place or not if there's an administrative due process to be dealt with first. Once you get past the rules you can move on up to the statutes to argue your case, and if that doesn't work, you can add some Constitutional issues in your plea.

Second, a statement of a clause in the Constitution does not in and of itself constitute "the law".

You'll notice if you ever look for it that "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" is pretty thin gruel. In fact, one serious proposal is that Congress finally address what that means.

Until that happens you have only an administrative decision at State Department providing any guidance in the matter.

Even Romney's own citizenship may well be in danger.

77 posted on 04/12/2011 3:34:48 PM PDT by muawiyah (Make America Safe For Amercans)
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To: buwaya

We are speaking of the state of the statutes in 1961, and they are a bit different.


78 posted on 04/12/2011 3:36:28 PM PDT by muawiyah (Make America Safe For Amercans)
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To: Andy'smom
Romney is wrong. He should not have opened his mouth.

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Did you even read the article? Romney had nothing to do with this.

79 posted on 04/12/2011 3:42:28 PM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: Sporke

“Personally I think Allen West is our only hope.”

Sarah Palin is a true American and an excellent choice too.


80 posted on 04/12/2011 3:42:28 PM PDT by Laserman
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