words fail...
Posted on 04/12/2011 5:45:35 PM PDT by Travis McGee
“Enemy can put down a weapon in a firefight and walk away, we can’t shoot them.”
My earliest recollection of combat came from my Uncle Louie who killed a bunch of enemy Japs at New Guinea (sp) in World War II.
To the best of my recollection, he didn’t allow an enemy to set down a weapon and walk away. If he had, I’m sure my cousins would have never been born. And my Uncle Louie could not have relayed his various excursions about New Guinea to me.
My father dropped really big bombs on Nazi heads. He took me to AO Smith when I was a kid and showed me mock-ups of bombs. He was right - those were really big bombs. Most Americans don’t know that manufacturers were very proud of what they did to save America. Many offered weekend tours.
Time to hit the rack. Best wishes to you and yours.
I’d say something, but anyone who has ever read any of my posts on Iraq and F ghanistan already knows what I have to say about this sh!+.
http://www.pfcdavidlawrence.org/
I have a young friend who’s a SEAL; he’s concerned about the ROE and the new regs concerning the SEALs.
Indeed.
Long gone are the days Uncle Sugar would pay us to seek out and kill those communist sons of bit#hes and even make the combat pay tax free!
Now the nation's "leader" is one of them... WTF happened to us?
This is what happens to a politicized army. Having the military subordinate to the civil authority is not the same as what we have today. We have military commanders and troops, subjected to the UCMJ, being told what to do and how to do it by people not subjected to the UCMJ.
The Royal Navy is in a similar boat (no pun intended) concerning the pirates off Somalia.
When we no longer can be the military we must be, that is complete and total disrespect to the troops that serve. When their leaders mimic anyone but America, that is an insult to the Americans. If we ain’t good enough then we should leave.
Given that Obama is not willing to do what is right, we need to get the heck ASAP.
He’s thinking about his post-retirement stints at various think tanks and institutions. In return they will set him up as some sort of modern day Patton and give him all sorts of accolades. A few decades from now our boys will ride out to do it all again in their Petreus Armored Vehicles.
There are plenty of real enemies they can fight on this side of the ocean. They won't have to look far. They are all over the place. They can start in a place that begins with "W" and ends in "D.C.".
words fail...
This is willful sacrifice of our people for PC bullshit. We need to leave. These higher ups have absolutely no right to ask the troops to operate this way. This is madness.
Petraeus is a politician but not a general. No general abandons his troops to the mercy of the enemy.
Bring our troops home...TODAY!
Is COIN COunter INsurgency? Or something else?
Yes. And the “new COIN” is the ultra-touchy-feely-don’t-shoot-back version espoused by Petreaus. He has stocked his staff with like-minded true-believer yes-men.
If American troops are killed or maimed, well, you can’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs.
There are things I’d like to say now, but I don’t want to get banned. Let me just say WTF and leave it at that. If we aren’t going to allow our troops to shoot back, then just bring them home.
I am an old Viet Nam guy. I have been following the Afghanistan ROE issues.
The reality is that either we clean up the ROE or we must get out. We must make the choice now. McChrystal was right. Petraeus is wrong. This cannot be allowed to go on. If this takes military disobedience of the POTUS, so be it.
What you are watching, folks, is what is known as a “debacle”.
When my son’s unit had the ROE brief, the Army lawyer sent to talk to them set up scenerios regarding the ROE. By the end of the brief he told them that with their attitude he would be seeing them again because he would be prosecuting them in the future.
Incredible. He should document everything. Our military is being wrecked.
It’s disgraceful that not one single general I can think of has resigned over this and related issues-open gays, women in active combat, women wearing head scarves etc.
At least old COL David Hackworth had the integrity to resign and go public.
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