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1 posted on 04/13/2011 11:07:01 AM PDT by ventanax5
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We don’t need no stinkin’ Constitution!

If it was proved today that Obama was born in Kenya, who would do anything about it?


2 posted on 04/13/2011 11:08:47 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: LucyT; BP2; rxsid; null and void; Candor7

ping


5 posted on 04/13/2011 11:16:23 AM PDT by tutstar
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I wonder if so many supposed conservatives shy away from this issue so they won’t get branded by the media?

I am surprised at Horowitz.
Bill O’Reilly addressed this last night and as usualignored reality and made up other stuff.

of course now the obamites are saying no one can get an original out of Hi but that is flat out not true.

the obamites have put one over on many, but failed with Freepers


9 posted on 04/13/2011 11:19:26 AM PDT by RWGinger
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i donwanna talk bout it; stonewall it; shaddap; bs alla da folks allda time; stfu; huh?; yes and no; depends, etc, etc.

doublespeal light...


11 posted on 04/13/2011 11:21:55 AM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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People do not understand the concept of how easy it is to destroy the country by ignoring the small things.

For example, you guys would be laden down with the huge debt if the the belief in being debt free had been respected.

By not respecting the smallest part of the constitution, you are opening up the probability (not just possibility) that your constitution is going to be rendered ineffectual and meaningless.


12 posted on 04/13/2011 11:23:56 AM PDT by Jonty30
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I don’t understand their way of thinking. This country is overrun now with illegals and the possibility of the President not being eligible is a real one. It would be a very simple matter to prove yeah or nay. If we have a President who by his very being is not eligible; what is to stop others and eventually we will end up with our enemy being our leader.

The question is simple and it needs to be answered truthfully.


14 posted on 04/13/2011 11:29:30 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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Michelle is, herself, an "anchor baby". She's a citizen only because some clerk thought the Constitution said she was ~ and that clerk was not well trained in the law.

Horowitz, like so many Jewish people in our history, has always protected the Jewish community by ignoring the question of legitimate entry, or by attacking those who do question it.

This doesn't mean Horowitz and Malkin are not nice people ~ they may be. At the same time that also means both of them have a personal interest in maintaining the status quo. In short, neither should be trusted when it comes to any issue impinging on immigration, immigrants, or the status of their offspring.

Frankly I think Michelle could do a great deal of good for the Philippines and if she got sent there it wouldn't hurt this country at all. With modern computers and communications systems she can write her stuff as readily on Cebu as in New York.

15 posted on 04/13/2011 11:29:35 AM PDT by muawiyah (Make America Safe For Americans)
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December 09, 2008
Obama and the Natural Born Citizen Clause


16 posted on 04/13/2011 11:31:24 AM PDT by samtheman
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This is a dead issue. I’ve said before even if obama admitted he was born in Kenya, but didn’t know it until recently, nobody who could do anything WOULD do anything.


18 posted on 04/13/2011 11:37:33 AM PDT by Terry Mross (Only a SECOND party will get my vote.)
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The widely held understanding of the term “natural born citizen” among the founders in the 18th century was that no one would be qualified to be president if their father was not a citizen of the United States.

Unfortunately, the term was not defined in the Constitution, and has become yet another supposedly quaint notion of the founders that has become all but a dead letter.

I find it particularly outrageous that the Supremes decided to avoid discovering what NBC actually meant; or rather, as I'm all but certain that many of them do know, they decided for the sake of political expediency to ignore the issue. However, isn't constitutional interpretation supposed to be their very function, and the politically consequences - particularly to certain constitutional usurpers who occupy the WH - be damned?

19 posted on 04/13/2011 11:37:37 AM PDT by mojito
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Rush mentioned it was Larry Johnson who first started to question Obama eligibility, so I Google'd "Larry Johnson" as soon as I heard and saw the original web page by Larry Johnson back on April 2008. Now that original web page is nowhere to be found. Larry Johnson page questioned eligibility that to be POTUS both parents must be U.S. citizens. May be the incumbent POTUS' bio dad was El-Hajj Malik El-Shabazz not the Kenyan guy???
20 posted on 04/13/2011 11:39:19 AM PDT by hamboy
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Conservative intelligentsia is in a tizzy over birthers running wild and stealing the show. Relax guys. Leave the birthers alone, and quit playing the liberal game of trashing conservatives who aren’t on the genteel reservation. Malkin, Horowitz, Coulter and their favorite politicians should take a deep breath and relax. All the other issues are still going to get discussed and beaten into the ground. We will be inundated by the whole spectrum of political debate before 2012 rolls around. Quit insulting your fellow travelers who aren’t above the eligibility issue. They will probably turn out to be right.


22 posted on 04/13/2011 11:42:43 AM PDT by pallis
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It’s the Constitution, stupid.

Pundits have tried to peg the Tea Party as being about spending and nothing more. Wrong! At it’s core, the Tea Party movement is about getting back to the Constitution.

It’s about respecting (and following) the principles the country was founded upon. The ones that have been encapsulated in our Constitution.

And yes, that includes “silly little clauses” like the one stating the president must be a natural born citizen.

We can argue about the meaning of NBC, but we can’t ignore it. Ignoring it means you can ignore any part of the Constitution you disagree with.


23 posted on 04/13/2011 11:43:37 AM PDT by Brookhaven (Moderates = non-thinkers)
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I sure hope Mittens gets vetted properly. His grandfather and father were born in Mexico. It doesn’t seem to be clear if his father was naturalized or not.


26 posted on 04/13/2011 11:55:00 AM PDT by MissDairyGoodnessVT (I am keeping the faith, I have not finished my course and I am fighting for the good)
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You do realize this is an old article.

“December 09, 2008
Obama and the Natural Born Citizen Clause”


31 posted on 04/13/2011 12:28:25 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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The “posted” date is supposed to be the date the article was published on the internet, in this case in 2008.

That said, this was an excellent article and a needed recap of where this issue has been and where it’s going.

Thanks.


32 posted on 04/13/2011 12:32:04 PM PDT by fightinJAG (I am sick of people adding comments to titles in the title box. Thank you.)
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If the words ‘natural born citizen’ in the Constitution are meaningless to David Horowitz, Michelle Malkin, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Mark Levin, Ann Coulter, etc….. and could mean anything then you some of us have better start wondering what other clauses of words of the Constitution are really not that important as well to these so-called conservatives.

Possibly ‘We the People’ could actually include cats, dogs, trees, and even the kitchen sink. Perhaps when the word ‘States’ is used it could also include foreign states as well. Perhaps the word ‘religion’ could actually mean anything at all that someone believes.

Anyone who claims that the words of the Constitution are not important and that an issue dealing with the meaning of the Constitution is not important is not important themselves and is certainly not truly a conservative.


33 posted on 04/13/2011 12:47:52 PM PDT by TheBigIf
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I remain stunned...that the people in this country do not care whether the constitution has been followed in the election of the President of the US. How can a real American NOT want to pursue this?????


34 posted on 04/13/2011 12:47:52 PM PDT by Fawn (No--bama 2012)
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"What difference does it make to the future of this country whether Obama was born on U.S. soil?"

A lot of difference, considering it impacts his Constitutional qualifications for the presidency.

37 posted on 04/13/2011 1:04:44 PM PDT by K-Stater
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I wonder what would happen if Obama was a republican? Would the masses revolt?
39 posted on 04/13/2011 1:17:17 PM PDT by ANGGAPO (Layte Gulf Beach Club)
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