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Remembering the Real Ayn Rand
Wall Street Journal ^ | 4/14/11 | DONALD L. LUSKIN

Posted on 04/14/2011 5:46:14 AM PDT by BCrago66

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To: BCrago66; nmh

I just, this week, finished “Atlas Shrugged”. It has some very prescient sections. I am starting on “The Return of the Primitive” today and will read “The Fountainhead” next.

I found that she injects herself into the book as Dagny Taggert and narcissisticly (izzat a word?) proposes that every man should fall in love with her because of her great mind. Inn that sense, she was a true feminist in the mold of “love me for my mind, not my body” clap-trap.

That said, Rand, herself believes the human mind to be source of all good and advancement(humanist belief). As others have said, she is not a friend of Christians.


21 posted on 04/14/2011 6:28:05 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Islam is a violent and tyrannical political ideology and has nothing to do with "religion".)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
Ignore the dopes.

They WANT to see Ayn Rand as their savior.

They do NOT want to see how out of step she is with conservative ideals. They lack principles as she does. They could care less about little babies being murdered everyday through abortion. To them, MONEY is all that matters. They are sick people - just as she was a SICK, SELFISH person who sorely lacked character.

22 posted on 04/14/2011 6:30:11 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
she was a true feminist in the mold of “love me for my mind, not my body” clap-trap.

And if you've ever seen a picture of her, you'll understand why.

23 posted on 04/14/2011 6:30:26 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (What if God doesn't WANT the Gospel rescued from fundamentalism?)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

I think it’s going to get mean and ugly. Whether it collpses or not will depend on who survives it.


24 posted on 04/14/2011 6:30:34 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: nmh
Yes, she was the ultimate feminist

The whole book was about chasing some guy across the country.

25 posted on 04/14/2011 6:33:18 AM PDT by Tribune7 (The Democrat Party is not a political organization but a religious cult.)
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To: tacticalogic

Make sure you have:

A support network of people in your area who can band together if/when it happens.

Plenty of food, WATER, medical supplies, etc.

Sufficient ammo and firearms (but really, don’t go overboard)

A plan for what to do when it happens, worked out by aforementioned support network. Know what’s defensible, where people need to congregate to live, and what you’re going to do about outsiders.


26 posted on 04/14/2011 6:35:58 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (What if God doesn't WANT the Gospel rescued from fundamentalism?)
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“I found that she injects herself into the book as Dagny Taggert and narcissisticly (izzat a word?) proposes that every man should fall in love with her because of her great mind. Inn that sense, she was a true feminist in the mold of “love me for my mind, not my body” clap-trap.”

Yes, she was VERY narcissistic and very SELF CENTERED. Her mind was a failure but she thought the opposite. I disagree on the “love me for my mind and not my body”. She didn't care who she bedded. Decent men avoided her and it wasn't because she was unattractive. It was because she was COLD wrapped up in herself. This is another reason why she was what we call today a “cougar”. She had to have her young boy toy and ANNOUNCE it to her husband and the wife. A young guy was someone she could CONTROL. Her inner circle eventually abandoned her later in her miserable life.

“That said, Rand, herself believes the human mind to be source of all good and advancement(humanist belief). As others have said, she is not a friend of Christians.”

Yes, she was the humanist. She only believed in herself and HER views. It's interesting, most people that flee a Communist country and in her situation, Russia, FIND GOD. Ayn went out of her way to reject Him and replace Him with money and her humanistic ideals. She was a failure in life.

27 posted on 04/14/2011 6:37:02 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nmh
Polarization is a well known rhetorical mechanism that presents an issue as an "all or nothing" proposition, calculated to evoke an emotion knee-jerk reaction.

It doesn't work on everyone.

28 posted on 04/14/2011 6:38:07 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: tacticalogic
I think it’s going to get mean and ugly.

Oh c'mon, if you can't find anything nice to say about Mizz Rand...

29 posted on 04/14/2011 6:38:49 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (What if God doesn't WANT the Gospel rescued from fundamentalism?)
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To: Tribune7

As the article indicated and others have stated, Ayn Rand was the “mind” being sought in her characters.


30 posted on 04/14/2011 6:40:03 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

I’m pretty far out in “flyover country”. We’re about halfway off the grid on a normal day.


31 posted on 04/14/2011 6:40:39 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: Tribune7

As the article indicated and others have stated, Ayn Rand was the “mind” being sought in her characters. You have to read up on her PERSONAL life and see the symbolism in her characters. Then you will understand what she is saying in her stories. It’s ALL about HER.


32 posted on 04/14/2011 6:40:56 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: tacticalogic

Well, yeah, I mean, you live in Missouri. Remind me again, have they gotten running water in that state yet?


33 posted on 04/14/2011 6:42:30 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (What if God doesn't WANT the Gospel rescued from fundamentalism?)
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Oh c'mon, if you can't find anything nice to say about Mizz Rand...

I think I'll just wander around the bandwagon for a bit and see if the wheels look firmly attached before I climb on, thank you.

34 posted on 04/14/2011 6:44:00 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: tacticalogic

Hey, you said it, not me!


35 posted on 04/14/2011 6:44:47 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (What if God doesn't WANT the Gospel rescued from fundamentalism?)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Well then, whatever “it” was has been said.


36 posted on 04/14/2011 6:47:11 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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“Polarization is a well known rhetorical mechanism that presents an issue as an “all or nothing” proposition, calculated to evoke an emotion knee-jerk reaction.
It doesn't work on everyone. “

I'm not sure which direction you are coming from in that remark. I will say this that when OBVIOUS right is wrong, there is a problem. For example, when a little human being is aborted for totally SELFISH reasons and that is why abortion happens, it is WRONG. It is also a polarizing issue but the truth is that it is WRONG. Acknowledging right and wrong today repulses people and their “knee jerk” reaction is to look for “red herrings” so they can rationalize it away or simply not deal with it.


Using THAT issue, of abortion, has truly changed the moral landscape of our country. It is a trickle down of degradation of human life - young and old.

It has had huge ramifications and has hastened more moral decline in our country. So is abortion polarizing? Yes. Is it an "all or nothing" proposition? Yes. Either the little human being lives or it dies. Should abortion be ILLEGAL, again? Yes. Err on the side of life. If others insist on "back alley" abortions - so be it. I can NOT support evil so they can SAFELY have an abortion.

37 posted on 04/14/2011 6:48:12 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: tacticalogic

BTW, I’m just kidding about Missouri - I’m a Missourian expat, born and raised around Kansas City.


38 posted on 04/14/2011 6:48:25 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (What if God doesn't WANT the Gospel rescued from fundamentalism?)
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To: nmh

You have made me very curious about Ayn Rand. Are there any pictures of her?


39 posted on 04/14/2011 6:50:38 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: nmh

If it’s an all or nothing proposition, you have to be prepared to accept nothing if you can’t have it all.


40 posted on 04/14/2011 6:59:40 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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