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Doctors pushed paralyzed Irish man to refuse ventilator and die
LifeSiteNews ^ | 4/12/11 | Hilary White

Posted on 04/14/2011 12:45:28 PM PDT by wagglebee

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To: wagglebee

Well said, wagglebee.


101 posted on 04/15/2011 3:04:08 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: wagglebee
As I mentioned yesterday, many routine medical procedures (delivering babies, surgeries, etc.) are performed on millions of people each year and these procedures often cost far more than an in-home ventilator.

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Excellent point.

102 posted on 04/15/2011 3:05:38 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Thanks for that news. Wonderful news.


103 posted on 04/15/2011 3:15:52 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Imagine that!

The tests are not infallible.

I can also see these eugenecists having a 'clerical error' and killing off healthy kids as well, perhaps even to meet a quota. I would not want to extrapolate the evil opportunities which would spring from such.

I can't argue that government should be removed as much as possible from the equation, but at the same time there is that treacly situation where a lot of people have paid for something, and should get what they paid for. We have a similar problem with Social Security.

Neither system should have existed; the challenge is finding an equitable way to quit.

In the meantime, either could be treated as a way for our society to provide for those who suffer catastrophic problems, while the rest of us count our blessings. The less Government in the middle of it all, the more efficient (cost wise) the safety net will be. There are countless other places a dollar could be saved without resorting to murder.

I still live in a place where there are jars on the counters at the convenience stores where people can donate to help a family with sudden medical problems and no/not enough insurance, where benefit auctions are held to help out those who truly are in need.

That sense of community has not been wrested from us yet, nor can it be abused in a town where most know each other.

However, it appears that in many places, the 'government will take care of them' attitude has replaced the 'we look out for our own' attitude communities used to have most everywhere.

When a society loses the sense that we have some moral responsibility for each other, not through the threat of legal intervention, but out of basic kindness, we have lost that sense of community which makes any society cohesive and we have lost our sense of responsibility to our society as well. It is the threshhold of decay, the top of the slippery slope into the pit of barbarism, no matter how technologically refined.

How far we have come from "Ask not what your Country can do for you, but what you can do for your Country." in just a few decades.

104 posted on 04/15/2011 3:18:37 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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The tests are not infallible.

To hear them tell it they are. They hounded this couple to abort.

105 posted on 04/15/2011 3:30:46 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: little jeremiah

Austin came in at 8 lbs 3 ozs. Mom are Dad are stunned that he hasn’t all the health issues that doctors swore he would. And glad that they trusted God for a healthy baby.


106 posted on 04/15/2011 3:35:09 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Such wonderful news. I bet Mom and Dad learned some lessons, too, about trusting docs and so on. I can only imagine how thankful they are!

I think I’ve mentioned that when I was preg with child #2, and had been abandoned by so-called husband, my mother came to visit me and pressured me so heavily to get an abortion I had to push her out of my door and slam it shut.


107 posted on 04/15/2011 3:39:38 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah
I can't imagine that!

When I was 34 and having my daughter, the doctor told me that I was "at risk" (my age) for the baby to have problems. They wanted to run all kinds of tests. I told him to take a flying leap. In 1985 that kind of thinking wasn't prevalent and I was furious!

108 posted on 04/15/2011 3:48:52 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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Pinged from Terri Dailies


109 posted on 04/17/2011 11:04:57 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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