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Cass Sunstein recommends government infiltration of conspiracy groups
Social Science Research Network ^ | 15 Jan 2008 | Cass Sunstein

Posted on 04/19/2011 7:45:47 AM PDT by CanaGuy

A paper by Cass Sunstein says it all.

From p.14 "Conspiracy Theories" by CASS R. SUNSTEIN


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This is interesting, and might explain all the trolls and Obots desperately trying to bury the eligibility issue.

From p.14 "Conspiracy Theories" by CASS R. SUNSTEIN

Full paper here

II. Governmental Responses

What can government do about conspiracy theories? Among the things it can do, what should it do? We can readily imagine a series of possible responses: (1)Government might ban conspiracy theorizing. (2) Government might impose some kind of tax, financial or otherwise, on those who disseminate such theories. (3) Government might itself engage in counterspeech, marshaling arguments to discredit conspiracy theories. (4) Government might formally hire credible private parties to engage in counterspeech. (5 Government might engage in informal communication with such parties, encouraging them to help. Each instrument has a distinctive set of potential effects, or costs and benefits, and each will have a place under imaginable conditions.

However, our main policy idea is that government should engage in cognitive infiltration of the groups that produce conspiracy theories, which involves a mix of (3), (4) and (5).

QED, I think, and greetings to all paid trolls and Obots!

1 posted on 04/19/2011 7:45:51 AM PDT by CanaGuy
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To: CanaGuy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oC3-CVPYis&feature=relmfu


2 posted on 04/19/2011 7:48:58 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: CanaGuy

Listen to what Pastor Manning has to say at time stamp 13:55-14:00


3 posted on 04/19/2011 7:49:59 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: CanaGuy
(1)Government might ban conspiracy theorizing.

AKA thoughtcrime.

4 posted on 04/19/2011 7:50:02 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 817 of our national holiday from reality. - What 3 AM phone call?)
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To: CanaGuy

You might also take note of the fact that he suggests that they can be used to destroy credibility.


5 posted on 04/19/2011 7:50:41 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: American Constitutionalist

This huge douchebag ought to infiltrate the group conspiring to undermine American sovereignty in order to bring about the end of our republic.


6 posted on 04/19/2011 7:50:56 AM PDT by ronnyquest (I spent 20 years in the Army fighting the enemies of freedom only to see fascism elected at home.)
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To: CanaGuy

He is obviously enamored with “Government Might”.............


7 posted on 04/19/2011 7:51:01 AM PDT by Red Badger (Mitt Romney: The Harold Stassen of the 21st century........)
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To: CanaGuy

Birthers... get ready!


8 posted on 04/19/2011 7:51:02 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: CanaGuy

There are even moles and trolls among the birthers, not everyone is our friend...


9 posted on 04/19/2011 7:51:05 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: CanaGuy; LucyT

Birthers... get ready!


10 posted on 04/19/2011 7:51:11 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: CanaGuy

A tax on conspiracy theories!!

A pox on all their houses!!

Sheesh


11 posted on 04/19/2011 7:52:37 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: autumnraine
our main policy idea is that government should engage in cognitive infiltration of the groups that produce conspiracy theories,

He's waaay late to the game. The FBI under Hoover did this for decades before this twit was even born...............

12 posted on 04/19/2011 7:53:26 AM PDT by Red Badger (Mitt Romney: The Harold Stassen of the 21st century........)
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To: CanaGuy

BTW where the hell have you people been? I’ve been pointing this out for at least a year.


13 posted on 04/19/2011 7:53:35 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: CanaGuy

Well, Cass sure does take the “Theory” out of the conspiracy, now doesn’t he?


14 posted on 04/19/2011 7:53:52 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: cripplecreek; CanaGuy
By now experienced FREEPERS with more than a decade of hard core experience under their belts HAVE NO FEAR of the appeal to "you will lose credibility".

Cass Sustein couldn't handle FR for a full day of fun and frolick. He's a wuss. His beard is a nutcase. His family are pukes. His friends are all sexual deviates or tax cheats or both! OH, MY GOODNESS ~ BOTH!

15 posted on 04/19/2011 7:53:58 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: autumnraine; Bikkuri; GregNH; faucetman; warsaw44; ColdOne; Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!; ...
Ping
16 posted on 04/19/2011 7:54:38 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 817 of our national holiday from reality. - What 3 AM phone call?)
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To: American Constitutionalist

Cass Sunstein’s a Czar. Why are the Republicans in the House still funding these extra-Constitutional Czars?


17 posted on 04/19/2011 7:55:20 AM PDT by eCSMaster (We will fight for America and it starts here in Madison, WI. It starts here. It starts now.)
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To: CanaGuy

I think I’ll just ban Cass Sunstein.


18 posted on 04/19/2011 7:56:29 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (Sarah Palin is above taking the fake high road.)
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To: eCSMaster
We'll need an election to get rid of them, but I'm sure we can find some good prosecutor somewhere to go after them for a return of the cash they took.

You did know there are Clintonistas still on the lam trying to escape federal warrants. I think that sort of thing put a real dent in their ability to run the Hildabeast for President. We can keep the Obots and their running dog lackeys out of government in the future the same way. Chicago will be devoid of lawyers!

19 posted on 04/19/2011 7:57:48 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: CanaGuy

I most respectfully say that I am not getting the connection between this and the eligibility issue. I apologize that it didnt QED for me. I would appreciate it if you would be willing to elucidate it a little more. Thanks.


20 posted on 04/19/2011 7:58:03 AM PDT by TEXOKIE (Anarchy IS the strategy of the forces of darkness!)
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To: AFreeBird

Exactly.

Only a fool of Sunstein’s caliber could be so inspired to prove himself wrong.


21 posted on 04/19/2011 8:01:15 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (Sarah Palin is above taking the fake high road.)
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To: CanaGuy

He’s going to shut down colleges and universities??


22 posted on 04/19/2011 8:02:40 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Is it 2012 yet?)
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To: muawiyah

I don’t know. I see a lot of willful ignorance around here some days. This Sunstein paper is nothing new to those who have paid a little attention.

All a Sunstein troll needs to do is tell people what they want to hear and they’ll follow them blindly.


23 posted on 04/19/2011 8:03:19 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: CanaGuy

Didn’t Kennedy, Johnson and Nixon try this?


24 posted on 04/19/2011 8:03:32 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: CanaGuy
Cass Sunstein:

Heinrich Himmler, but newer!

25 posted on 04/19/2011 8:04:10 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The Democrat Party is Communist. The Republican Party is Socialist. The Tea Party is Capitalist.)
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To: TEXOKIE
I most respectfully say that I am not getting the connection between this and the eligibility issue. I apologize that it didnt QED for me. I would appreciate it if you would be willing to elucidate it a little more. Thanks.

Trolls and Obots won't, by definition, admit to "getting the connection". On the other hand, of course, if you are devoid of rational thought, then you may have some difficulty recognizing the bleedin' obvious.

26 posted on 04/19/2011 8:06:40 AM PDT by CanaGuy (Go Harper! We still love you!)
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To: ronnyquest

“This huge douchebag ought to infiltrate the group conspiring to undermine American sovereignty in order to bring about the end of our republic.”

I hate to be the one to break it to you, but he IS part of “the group conspiring to undermine American sovereignty in order to bring about the end of our republic.”
So is his nasty wife.

We don’t need to hatch “conspiracy theories” with these conspiratorial people all around the conspirator-in-chief. We are already smack-dab in the middle of the biggest conspiracy against the US in the history of this country. We are looking at actual treason on a scale that makes scaling Mt. Everest seem like a romp in the park.
obama makes the Manchurian Candidate look like a better alternative.


27 posted on 04/19/2011 8:07:40 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Note: I do NOT capitalize anything I don't respect...like obama and/or islam...but I repeat myself.)
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To: CanaGuy

And we should pay good money for all these infiltrations?

So, I guess we have the money....

Who knew?


28 posted on 04/19/2011 8:11:06 AM PDT by texmexis best
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To: eCSMaster

Cass Sunstein’s a Czar. Why are the Republicans in the House still funding these extra-Constitutional Czars?
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Because they are ALL crooks, liars and cheats and only in it for themselves and the $$$.


29 posted on 04/19/2011 8:12:24 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( 1400 years of existence & Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curry)
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To: CanaGuy

None of the options they considered simply allowed for the free exercise of the 1st amendment. Leftists always have to respond with force when free people act in a manner, even if legal, that they don’t like. Live and let live is they antithesis of leftist thought.


30 posted on 04/19/2011 8:13:52 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Obama. Chauncey Gardiner without the homburg.)
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To: autumnraine

BS! The BC issue isn’t a conspiracy theory, it’s a fact.


31 posted on 04/19/2011 8:14:02 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( 1400 years of existence & Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curry)
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To: CanaGuy
How 'bout this?

"Congress shall make no law ...abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press;..."
32 posted on 04/19/2011 8:17:13 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Napolean fries the idea powder.)
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To: CanaGuy
possible responses: (1)Government might ban conspiracy theorizing

What government is he talking about that he thinks it could ban theorizing? Soviet Union? Red China? Cuba?

33 posted on 04/19/2011 8:22:02 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: eCSMaster

“Cass Sunstein’s a Czar.’

Actually, he’s not. He’s head of OIRA, which was established 30 years ago. http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/inforeg_administrator

He may not be the right man to fill the post, but it’s a very legitimate position and actually can do some good (reduce excess regulation) if the right person is named to the position.


34 posted on 04/19/2011 8:22:56 AM PDT by DrC
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To: sodpoodle

“He’s going to shut down colleges and universities??”

I am for so doing. Those places are full of commies and queers.


35 posted on 04/19/2011 8:23:18 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: mojitojoe

Of course it is! But the media blowing it off as a “conspiracy theory” and the Republicans joining suit... can you not deny that us Birthers would be LUMPED into a category like this?


36 posted on 04/19/2011 8:26:56 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: American Constitutionalist
The Rev. Manning is a 9/11 TRUTHER...

Pastor Manning: Birthers & 9/11 Truthers Unite

STOP POSTING HIS CRAP HERE!!!!!

37 posted on 04/19/2011 8:27:50 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: CanaGuy

I welcome are new infiltrators for one,it is fair conspiracy groups should also try to infiltrate government groups. If we keep are facts strait we could convince the infiltrators were are right.
There are conspiracy groups that are total nuts. These should just be ignored for the most part. People tend not to rally around leaders wearing tin foil hats. Some effort should be taken to help people caught in death cults like Heaven’s Gate cult. The real problem is that there is too many in government wearing tin foil hats. Global warming types amongst them.


38 posted on 04/19/2011 8:28:35 AM PDT by ThomasThomas (I am still looking for that box I am supposed to think out of.)
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To: DrC
"Actually, he’s not. He’s head of OIRA,..."

Did he get Congressional approval for that position?

39 posted on 04/19/2011 8:30:00 AM PDT by eCSMaster (We will fight for America and it starts here in Madison, WI. It starts here. It starts now.)
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To: ronnyquest; All

This “huge douchebag” in the group you speak of.

He is Obama’s Regulatory Czar...


40 posted on 04/19/2011 8:30:52 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: mojitojoe
BS! The BC issue isn’t a conspiracy theory, it’s a fact.

You are absolutely correct, from the point of view from our side of the fence. However, from their side... it IS a conspiracy theory.

Unfortunately, this paper recommending government infiltration is a testament to the current thinking of a presidentially appointed Czar intent on bridling free speech. His first two options are particularly troublesome.

When a brain is filled with such mush, it's a wonder he still has motor skills.

41 posted on 04/19/2011 8:34:49 AM PDT by CanaGuy (Go Harper! We still love you!)
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To: CanaGuy

The Difference Between Marxofacism and Conservativism:

Marxofacists: “The Bush government was behind the 9/11 attacks!”

Conservatives. “Whatever. You guys are idiots.”


Conservatives: “Obama needs to show his birth certificate.”

Marxofacists: “The government and media need to infiltrate your organizations, launch a massive propaganda campaign against you, and prosecute you for crimes against the state!”


42 posted on 04/19/2011 8:37:55 AM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? You are a socialist idiot with no rational argument.)
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To: CanaGuy

You mean he’s not actually a “meat puppet”? Oh the humanity!!!!


43 posted on 04/19/2011 8:37:58 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: CanaGuy

Finally got around to a Truth Tax. To Democrats the Truth is a conspiracy and to many Republican RINOS.


44 posted on 04/19/2011 8:44:55 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (Shut up and eat your Beans!)
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To: eCSMaster

Because they are Lily Livered Pussies afraid of PC.


45 posted on 04/19/2011 8:46:07 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (Shut up and eat your Beans!)
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To: CanaGuy
The truth is that her writings are in themselves "conspiracy theories"! Thereby she is exposing herself as a "Conspirator". Planning or advising one to secretly subvert another's organization would constitute a conspiracy. ------ con·spir·a·tor    –noun a person who takes part in a conspiracy; plotter.
46 posted on 04/19/2011 8:48:28 AM PDT by GOYAKLA (Flush Congress in 2010 & 2012)
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To: Steely Tom

Yeah, this is nothing new. Nixon did this to the hippy anti-war movement in the late 1960’s he planted moles and infiltrators.


47 posted on 04/19/2011 8:51:08 AM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: CanaGuy

Is it conspiracy theory to see conspiracy is all groups opposed to your agenda?


48 posted on 04/19/2011 9:19:07 AM PDT by depressed in 06 (Hope and change is share the poverty.)
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To: Red Badger
The FBI under Hoover did this for decades before this twit was even born...............

Yeppers. Who remembers the TV series I Led 3 Lives?

49 posted on 04/19/2011 9:32:08 AM PDT by upchuck (Think you know hardship? Wait till the dollar is no longer the world's reserve currency.)
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To: cripplecreek

There once was a Czar they called Cass;
Who just couldn’t learn from the past;
He reveled in power,
at least till the hour;
The patriots tarred and feathered his ass.


50 posted on 04/19/2011 9:34:43 AM PDT by wheresmyusa (FTUN)
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