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Mn/DOT to test driver's 'mileage tax'
KARE ^ | April 19, 2011

Posted on 04/19/2011 12:36:15 PM PDT by La Lydia

GOLDEN VALLEY, Minn. -- The Minnesota Department of Transportation is looking for 500 people to test technology that could someday be used to collect a mileage-based user fee. Mn/DOT anticipates a fee on road usage might someday be necessary as more fuel efficient and hybrid cars are on the road, decreasing revenue from the gas tax.

"This research will provide important feedback from motorists about the effectiveness of using technology in a car or truck to gather mileage information," said Cory Johnson, project manager. "We are researching alternative financing methods today that could be used 10 or 20 years from now when the number of fuel efficient and hybrid cars increase and no longer produce enough revenue from a gas tax to build and repair roads."

Recruiting for the Minnesota Road Fee Test will begin in May, with research starting in July. Volunteers must be from Hennepin or Wright County. Drivers will be given smart phones with a GPS application that has been programmed to allow them to submit information. Volunteers will get a small stipend for expenses associated with the test. The research is scheduled to end by December 2012.

The state of Oregon completed a similar study in November 2007. Iowa, Nevada and Texas are currently researching mileage-based user fees.

Mn/DOT says that if a mileage-based user fee were implemented, motorists would pay a fee based on how many miles they driver, rather than how much gas a vehicle uses, which is how Minnesota's gas tax is currently designed....


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; enviros; liberty; mileage; mybluehell; roads; tax; totalitarianism
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This is just TOO MUCH government control over our lives. Hitler would have loved it. And I bet they aren't talking about reducing the gas tax if they impose this, either.
1 posted on 04/19/2011 12:36:18 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia
"...a mileage-based user fee."

Sounds like a tax.

2 posted on 04/19/2011 12:39:17 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: La Lydia
Mn/DOT anticipates a fee on road usage might someday be necessary as more fuel efficient and hybrid cars are on the road, decreasing revenue from the gas tax.

If that's the problem they're trying to solve, there are less intrusive ways to accomplish it. (I conclude they are lying about the purpose.)

3 posted on 04/19/2011 12:42:31 PM PDT by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: La Lydia
Any body in government that thinks this a good ideal should get the hell out of government, they are in the wrong country.
4 posted on 04/19/2011 12:43:03 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: La Lydia

Sadly they’ll wind up w/ well more than 500 drooling imbeciles demand more govt oversight of their lives....and yours.


5 posted on 04/19/2011 12:45:05 PM PDT by 556x45
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To: La Lydia

Good God.

as a native son,, what the hell happened to MInniesoda..


6 posted on 04/19/2011 12:45:11 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: La Lydia

Our forefathers would be shooting by now.


7 posted on 04/19/2011 12:45:24 PM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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I foresee a lot of problems with this, not the least of which is that there is a good chance that they will keep both types of taxes (remember the Federal Government gets a good portion of the tax on fuel).

Next, currently the tax is collected at the point of sell, the mechancism is already in place. It is difficult to cheat.

However, how are they going to figure out the miles driven? Attach a GPS device to your car? Talk about big brother.

Then there will be the forms to fill out, and then a department to process the forms, more unionized government employees.

The bottom line in all this is that governments want more money. It does not matter how much money they get, they always want more and they keep finding ways to get it.

This is an impossible situation and it can not continue forever. The American people are waking up but instead of addressing the concerns of the people, this administration along with their friends in the media are demonizing those that what to get spending under control.

This use to work. However, the American taxpayers are being pushed into a corner. Like any animal pushed into a corner with no way out, they become unpredictable,

I don’t think this is going to turn out well for those that believe in unlimited government and unlimited spending.


8 posted on 04/19/2011 12:49:57 PM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (California does not have a money problem, it has a spending problem.)
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To: La Lydia

The tax on our gasoline is already a mileage tax. The more you drive the more you pay.


9 posted on 04/19/2011 12:54:05 PM PDT by weef
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We already pay a mileage tax...the taxes we pay on gas. Of course, some of us pay more than others depending on our mileage.


10 posted on 04/19/2011 12:54:38 PM PDT by Poseidon
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To: La Lydia
And there it is. The LIE.

Smart phones / GPS / programmed to transmit data.

So are they collecting the tax every day? Week?

No?

Then they do NOT need “GPS application that has been programmed to allow them to submit information”

The information is built into every damn car on the road.

It is an odometer.

The ONLY reason for GPS is to track where you are going, not how many miles you drove.

This is nothing more than desensitizing American Citizens to being tracked and watched every minute of every day.

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11 posted on 04/19/2011 12:54:43 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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If a government agent attempt to put one of these on my call, I will shoot them. Period.

In a note of irony, if the libertarian had their way... I'd be ok contracting with a private road firm for this same service.

I just don't want the GOVERNMENT having that much control over my movement.

12 posted on 04/19/2011 12:57:38 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (explosive bolts, ten thousand volts at a million miles an hour)
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10 years from now:
1. They won’t charge you for the drive to the abortion center , the union hall, or the Obama “re-election” campaign rallies. In fact, you might even get a rebate.
2. They will charge you $5.00 per mile to go to any Tea Party rally or church.


13 posted on 04/19/2011 12:59:25 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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...on my car...

Darn it... Mad enough about this one that I can't type...

14 posted on 04/19/2011 12:59:25 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (explosive bolts, ten thousand volts at a million miles an hour)
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To: CIB-173RDABN
However, how are they going to figure out the miles driven?

Easy, vehicle inspections buy "state approved inspectors". Oh, goody, MORE Gov't employees!

15 posted on 04/19/2011 1:01:07 PM PDT by Michael Barnes
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To: La Lydia
If they want to make people drive fuel efficient cars, this is exactly the wrong way to go about it.
If I plop down an extra 15 grand on a 'green' car and it will eventually cost just as much to drive, then what's the point?

16 posted on 04/19/2011 1:08:19 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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“Sadly they’ll wind up w/ well more than 500 drooling imbeciles demand more govt oversight of their lives....and yours.”

And THAT, my FRiend, is the most pathetic part of the entire concept.


17 posted on 04/19/2011 1:19:49 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Which has more wrinkles? Helen Thomas' face or Lawrence O'Donnells' panties?)
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To: La Lydia

This is a horrible idea even for Marx Dayton.


18 posted on 04/19/2011 1:22:19 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("It's hard to take the president seriously." - Jim DeMint)
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To: La Lydia

It’s not going anywhere while the conservative Republicans now control both houses of the MN legislature.

Never-the-less, it certainly reveals alot about government attitudes toward our wallets, doesn’t it?


19 posted on 04/19/2011 1:27:18 PM PDT by Gumdrop
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To: La Lydia

we are already taxed by the mile with the gas we buy.

this is double tax!


20 posted on 04/19/2011 1:39:06 PM PDT by devistate one four (United states code 10.311 Militia Kimber CDP II .45 OORAH! TET68)
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