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Michele Bachmann trumps The Donald, declares birther dispute ‘settled’
Atlanta Journal Constitution Blog ^ | April 20, 2011 | Jim Galloway

Posted on 04/21/2011 5:16:03 AM PDT by AAABEST

[SNIP] George Stephanopoulos: Well, I have the president’s certificate right here. It’s certified, it’s got a certification number. It’s got the registrar of the state signed. It’s got a seal on it. And it says “this copy serves as prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding.”

Bachmann: Well, then that should settle it.

Stephanopoulos: So it’s over?

Bachmann: That’s what should settle it. I take the president at his word and I think– again I would have no problem and apparently the president wouldn’t, either. Introduce that, we’re done. Move on.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: bachman; certifigate; naturalborncitizen; notsettled; soetaro
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To: AAABEST
Photobucket It's the "Mother of All Distractions" which was planned years ago.
41 posted on 04/21/2011 5:46:01 AM PDT by RetSignman ("It's about saving our Republic, STUPID")
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To: cripplecreek; All
Bachmann's lifelong conservative credentials are solid gold. Yet there are a couple on this thread ready to throw her under the bus based on this one comment to Snuffleupagus.

Trump's lifelong credentials are those of a statist crony capitalist. Yet there are those ready to anoint him because of one single issue.

Another demonstration that many of the birthers are, simply, losing it.

42 posted on 04/21/2011 5:46:24 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (Birth Certificate Derangement Syndrome - have you been tested??)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

43 posted on 04/21/2011 5:46:24 AM PDT by Salamander (Insolence.....I has it.)
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To: org.whodat

If we are birthers, does that make those calling us that “spawners”?...


44 posted on 04/21/2011 5:46:30 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("Game On" - Sarah Palin 4/16/11 Madison WI)
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To: AAABEST

What should bother everyone here is this:

The document waved around by people like Stephanopoulis is a Certification of Live Birth.

A certification document is what is known in the legal community is an “abstract.” This means it intends to stand in the shoes of the original document, but for only certain things; it’s a shortcut.

Michele Bachmann is a lawyer. SHE SHOULD KNOW THIS AND SHOULD HAVE CALLED HIM ON IT.

Think of it this way. We all carry an auto insurance card; that is an “abstract.” It is supposed to stand in the shoes of our official insurance policy. You know, that thing that is about 40 pages long and details all our coverages. It does NOT detail our insurance coverage, it merely mentions that we have insurance. If the officer issues you a ticket that requires you to show up in court, in front of a judge with your insurance coverage in tow, it had better not be that card alone. You had better be hauling that 40 page document....or else.

The document they are trying to pass through is an ABSTRACT; the document they are hiding is the “40 page insurance policy” if you know what I mean.

The notion that MB did not spit these facts out with complete clarity, given her legal background, to Stephenopolis, is troubling...to say to least.

I like her too much to wonder if she’s gone over to the dark side.


45 posted on 04/21/2011 5:46:45 AM PDT by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Reposting my response on this issue the other day.

“Actually NO, she is not right. In your quote of the law it keeps talking about “the CERTIFICATE”. In other words that a certified copy of the “ORIGINAL” “BIRTH CERTIFICATE” is legally the same as the original. DUH. They aren’t going to allow you to have “the original birth certificate”. They give you a copy, and this law is saying that a copy is just as good. A COLB is NOT a “COPY” of the original.
Now Hawaii has just changed laws & procedures about birth certificates to be able to TRY to get around having to provide a copy of “the original”. It won’t work.”


46 posted on 04/21/2011 5:47:32 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: AAABEST
Bachmann: That’s what should settle it. ... Move on.

I don't want to "move on." I want to move in.

Is Ms. Bachmann really so clueless as to use the phrase, "move on"?

ML/NJ

47 posted on 04/21/2011 5:48:02 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Notary Sojac

We’re not losing it.

We are starving for someone on our side to stand up and take the debate unflinchingly directly to Obama.

Stop dancing around GOP. SAY WHAT YOU MEAN.


48 posted on 04/21/2011 5:48:13 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("Game On" - Sarah Palin 4/16/11 Madison WI)
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To: mel
The article's link is bad

http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider-jim-galloway/2011/04/20/michele-bachmann-trumps-the-donald-declares-birther-dispute-%C3%A2%E2%82%AC%CB%9Csettled%C3%A2%E2%82%AC%E2%84%A2/

49 posted on 04/21/2011 5:50:18 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama:If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun (the REAL Arizona instigator))
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To: silverleaf

It is not deniable. She said what she said. She CAVED. She let Stephie bully her. What happens if China was to bully her?


50 posted on 04/21/2011 5:52:48 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

No it makes. You the lose nut between the steering wheel and the seat.


51 posted on 04/21/2011 5:53:00 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
This Congress is not going to vacate Obama's election no matter what proofs surface.

That's unfortunate, but true. Almost half the public would vote again for Zero even if he was incontrovertibly proven to be a natural born citizen of Neptune.

It's wasted effort.

52 posted on 04/21/2011 5:53:31 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (Birth Certificate Derangement Syndrome - have you been tested??)
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To: silverleaf
Yet many will continue to post on this thread bashing Bachmann with the AJC liberal rag with a bad link to boot
53 posted on 04/21/2011 5:56:24 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama:If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun (the REAL Arizona instigator))
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To: org.whodat

org.spwned


54 posted on 04/21/2011 5:56:41 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("Game On" - Sarah Palin 4/16/11 Madison WI)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

They announced this yesterday morning on the Christian radio station that plays in two rooms 24/7 here and I just about fell over.

I can’t see any of the “clever tactical maneuvers” that others see.
I can only hear “I take the president at his word.”

That sunk it for me.


55 posted on 04/21/2011 5:57:08 AM PDT by Salamander (Insolence.....I has it.)
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To: Logic n' Reason
I would give anything to see if little georgy-peorgy has the cajones to sit with "the trumpster" and pull that hokey document gag.

That actually happened just the day before.

Trump told him he was co-opted by team Obama. Stephanopoulos kept trying to find out what they had found in Hawaii and Trump told him it was none of his business, just to wait and see.

YouTube link below.

Donald Trump Tells George Stephanopoulos You've Been Co-Opted!

Bachmann should have known what was going to happen if that video was made available to her.

56 posted on 04/21/2011 5:58:09 AM PDT by longjack
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
the birf certificate debate is becoming a one-trick pony every GOP candidate is being forced by the liberal media to ride. It is stealing all the oxygen from the fire of true popular anger against obamas ruination of this nation.

$5 a gallon gas is what the GOP should be forcing Stepontopofthis et al up against the wall to debate.
Instead Stef and the others are “using” the birf cert debate to DISTRACT.

Thanks a lot to the Donald, much damage is done- half or more of the US population no longer believes obama was born in US or is who he claims to be. In 30 days Corsi’s book hits the stands. You know what? ENOUGH PEOPLE DON'T CARE, that they may reselect obama. Even if you produce a Kenyan farm bucket containing his placenta - MANY PEOPLE DON'T CARE. And YOU can't make them care enough to save this country from the reality of this man and his destructive anger and hatred for this country.

But $5-$6-$10 a gallon gas? 20% unemployment? Unsustainable national debt? PEOPLE CARE. GOP needs to get on the message about what will get obama DEFEATED.

So keep it up, keep railing about his birf certificate and denouncing any candidate who does not make it front and center. (PS: How will it feel to be such a useful tool of obama and the liberal MEdia?)

57 posted on 04/21/2011 5:58:37 AM PDT by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: RetSignman
It's the "Mother of All Distractions" which was planned years ago.

Why is it that I get this sinking feeling that when ACORN was defunded, they all decided to become BIRTHERS?

58 posted on 04/21/2011 5:59:10 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: silverleaf

We should probably nominate John McCain in 2012.

He’s in favor of not bringing up this controversial subject.

My friends.


59 posted on 04/21/2011 6:01:48 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("Game On" - Sarah Palin 4/16/11 Madison WI)
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To: longjack
Stephanopoulos kept trying to find out what they had found in Hawaii and Trump told him it was none of his business, just to wait and see.

Yeah, and we had to wait for Al Capone's vault to be opened as well. Trump is playing birthers IMO and too many of them are uncritically examining what he is up to. He is no friend of conservatives, and he is doing this just to keep his mug on TV.

60 posted on 04/21/2011 6:02:41 AM PDT by dirtboy
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