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Does Historical Coincidence Unravel Obama’s Legitimacy? [Birther]
theautochannel.com ^ | April 21 2011 | Marc J. Rauch

Posted on 04/21/2011 2:29:18 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

It seems that around the turn of the century – the old one – 1900 or 1901, Sun Yat-sen returned to Hawaii. It was at this time in his life that Sun was involved in politics and trying to free China from it’s dictatorial monarchy. In 1904, Sun obtained a “Certificate of Hawaiian Birth,” issued by the Territory of Hawaii, stating he was born on November 24, 1870 in Kula, Maui. (See the Wikipedia entry at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Yat_Sen#cite_note-17)

The discrepancy of birthdates didn’t startle me, but the significance of the document’s meaning did.

It has been said that Barak Obama, current president of the United States of America was not born in Hawaii or anywhere in America, as claimed by him and his supporters; thereby invalidating him to run for and hold the office of the President of the United States. For some peculiar reason, while a candidate for president must produce income tax records, he or she is not required to produce a genuine birth certificate.

Obama himself doesn’t respond to the issue, which could be answered by simply providing a legally acceptable copy of a genuine birth certificate. Instead, what has been circulated is something that is called a "Certificate of Live Birth" from the State of Hawaii. It sort of sounds the same, but even the State of Hawaii doesn’t say that a “Certificate of Live Birth” is just the name for the document that is otherwise known as a “Birth Certificate.” There is a distinctive difference. (Sun Yat-sen’s Certificate of Hawaiian birth can be found online at http://www.scribd.com/doc/9830547/Sun-Yatsen-Certification-of-Live-Birth-in-Hawaii )

Some argue that proof of Obama’s Hawaiian birth can be found in the birth announcements of local Hawaiian newspapers. But, birth, death, and marriage announcements can be phoned in or submitted by mail.

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KEYWORDS: birther; certifigate; naturalborncitizen
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1 posted on 04/21/2011 2:29:21 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Some argue that proof of Obama’s Hawaiian birth can be found in the birth announcements of local Hawaiian newspapers. But, birth, death, and marriage announcements can be phoned in or submitted by mail.

And they can also be sent in from 50 years in the future! Who let Barry get ahold of the DeLorean again?
2 posted on 04/21/2011 2:33:25 PM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtC_wld3YJE&feature=youtube_gdata_player)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

What are the chances that if you needed a simple document like a certificate, you could get one easily enough from a tourist island?

Evidently pretty darn good!


3 posted on 04/21/2011 2:34:02 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper; All

Interesting commentary, especially that of Sun Yat-Sen and his Hawaiian birth records.

Still the big issue is why the GOP and the GOP Media is covering up for Obama on this issue. With Jerome Corsi’s upcoming book already #1 on Amazon...its time for the GOP to get real on the issue....or get clobbered in 2012


4 posted on 04/21/2011 2:35:02 PM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (Karl Rove = Karl Marx)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

BookMark


5 posted on 04/21/2011 2:36:00 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Hawaii was a Birth Certificate Mill.


6 posted on 04/21/2011 2:39:37 PM PDT by Mr. Peabody
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Instead, what has been circulated is something that is called a "Certificate of Live Birth" from the State of Hawaii.

Once again FALSE information!!

The OBAMA CAMPAIGN put on the internet a "CERTIFICATION of Live Birth" NOT a "Certificate of Live Birth"

7 posted on 04/21/2011 2:40:09 PM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

My guess is the Establishment GOP’s corporate and business pals are deathly afraid of huge multi-city riots by Holder’s people if the usurper is removed from office on grounds of ineligibility.

To them this would ignite America’s urban centers.

They’re more concerned about property damage, destroyed and looted merchandise, and loss of money if and when cities burn under this scenario than they are of maintaining the integrity of the Constitutional Republic.

To Hades with the lot of them, the cowards and traitors.


8 posted on 04/21/2011 2:42:05 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (One of these days, Alice....one of these days...POW! Right in the kisser!!!!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

“while a candidate for president must produce income tax records,”

While this is routinely done, I don’t believe it’s a requirement.


9 posted on 04/21/2011 2:45:54 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: DBrow

So it’s peculiar how Obama won’t release a less personal record such as his original, long-form, doctor-signed birth certificate. Why is that??


10 posted on 04/21/2011 3:03:42 PM PDT by edge919
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To: Emperor Palpatine

As I said on other posts, I think it is a combination of two factors.

One, they are afraid it’s a red herring and don’t want to be chumped.

The second, they do not want to be held responsible by “Holder’s People” for removing the first Black President of the United States.

But this is finally coming out. And to tell you the truth I am soooo looking forward to rubbing it in the face of all my Lib acquaintances who bought into the Obama myth and drank the kool-aid.

Anyone with a half a grain of common sense should have realized what a fraud Obama was from the very start.


11 posted on 04/21/2011 3:06:49 PM PDT by Ronin ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves" -- Bertrand de Jouve)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
This point was made in the Hollister case briefing to illustrate dramatically that, under territorial laws, a COLB was far different from an actual birth certificate and no proof of actual birth in Hawaii.
12 posted on 04/21/2011 3:11:11 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: AmericanVictory

A COLB ONLY means that the person was BORN ALIVE....NOTHING MORE>


13 posted on 04/21/2011 3:16:52 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion is the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

That old canard? Why do you think millions of modern illegals are trying to fake papers for themselves and their children to “prove” US citizenship? Are they looking ahead 50 years to a presidential run? lol. Nope. They’ve only got to look ahead a few months to start seeing the benefits of US citizenship. Same with Grandma Dunham. No DeLorean needed. Give me a break …

“Your Honor, I ask that that last objection be retired permanently because it is so old it is getting funny and therefore injurious to the decorum of this honorable Court.”

(supply your own cartoon here).


14 posted on 04/21/2011 3:17:44 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Emperor Palpatine
I agree that old school powers would rather have a phoney president than face urban unrest. Here would be MY answer to Holder's people. A whole bunch of these:


15 posted on 04/21/2011 3:20:11 PM PDT by Lockbar (March toward the sound of the guns.)
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

“Like” you have any proof that the microfisch hasen’t been doctored in the last 50 years!

Useless info.

Unacceptable by any court of law.


16 posted on 04/21/2011 3:21:21 PM PDT by Freeper (Obama - Please STOP representing MY country!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Theres one other strange but apparently true coincidence to this entire affair. Joe Gores, writer of the Sam Spade prequel, Spade & Archer, who has worked in his life as a private investigator, a repo-man, a truck driver, a logger, motel assistant manager, and of course journalist, also worked as an English teacher in Kenya, Africa, perhaps around the time of Barak Obama's birth You know, Kenya, the country where Barak Obamas father was born and citizen of.

We're through the looking glass here people.

17 posted on 04/21/2011 3:31:12 PM PDT by Kleon
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To: missnry

Re: The OBAMA CAMPAIGN put on the internet a “CERTIFICATION of Live Birth” NOT a “Certificate of Live Birth”

I wondered how long it would take to correct the incredible mistake by the writer.

Post 7 is better than usual.


18 posted on 04/21/2011 3:31:20 PM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: Springfield Reformer
Never mind the stigma of a mixed raced baby in the white community at the time. It was probably preferable to have a foreigner named the father than the real father, an American Black Panther.

This is a battle for The Moron from La Mancha a.k.a. Don Quixote, not for me or the Republican Party. Tilt away, boys, tilt away! Windmills to the fore.

19 posted on 04/21/2011 4:01:11 PM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (I wish that Obama were just the blithering idiot he seems - but he's not!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Joy Behar said that the only docs available from Hawaii are the COLB, and if we require a long-form birth certificate then no one in Hawaii can run for president because Hawaii doesn’t have those.

Is that true?


20 posted on 04/21/2011 4:08:21 PM PDT by webstersII
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