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The Psychology of the 'Birther' Myth (Free NYT psychoanalysis! Flack over the target)
New York Times ^ | April 22, 2011 | Seven NYT anti-birther "debaters"

Posted on 04/22/2011 10:16:29 AM PDT by Seizethecarp

Hawaii state officials have repeatedly confirmed President Obama's birth in Honolulu, and his Hawaiian birth certificate has long been made public. Yet doubts about where Mr. Obama was born persist among a segment of Americans, despite all factual evidence.

A New York Times/CBS News Poll released on Thursday found that 45 percent of Republicans think that Mr. Obama was born in another country, while 33 percent said he was born in America.

Several states are now considering bills to require presidential candidates to provide certified proof that they were born in the United States before they can appear on the ballot. Arizona's governor vetoed the bill there, but Oklahoma lawmakers and those in Georgia are moving forward with similar legislation.

What drives this kind of false political belief and why is it so hard to dispel?

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: allegedlyamerican; allegedlyeligible; allegedlyhawaiian; birthcertificate; certifigate; naturalborncitizen; obama; trump
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To: cotton

“If it is false then it would already have been dispeled.”

Naive statement in a world where still containing people who believe we never landed on the moon and JFK wasn’t killed by Oswald.

41 posted on 04/22/2011 12:54:57 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: cotton

“in a world where still containing people” = a world still containing people

42 posted on 04/22/2011 12:55:55 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: TigerClaws

“Where was the psychoanalysis of ‘truthers’ like Van Jones?”

I can’t say it was equal to what the birthers are getting or they took as much glee in it, but the MSM pretty thoroughly debunked trutherism. Just ask the truthers. They complain about it almost as much as you guys.

43 posted on 04/22/2011 12:58:52 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: PuzzledInTX
Weren't there a few published articles about a Kenyan-born Senator from Illinois?

I seem to recall that in 2004, when 0 gave the big speech at the Democratic convention that nominated Kerry, that much of the TV coverage was all about how wonderful it was that a man born in Kenya was now a US senator.

Does anyone else remember that, or am I dreaming?

44 posted on 04/22/2011 1:03:46 PM PDT by mojito
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To: Tublecane

And Obama has the power to put all these questions to rest as well. Show the long form BC, school transcripts, etc.

Very simple solution. Even Chris Matthews now says Obama should just “show it” so we can move on.

45 posted on 04/22/2011 1:15:33 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

“Even Chris Matthews now says Obama should just ‘show it’ so we can move on.”

Why would he want us to move on? It’s not a loser issue for him. At least, not amongst people who already weren’t going to vote for him. It splits the opposition (fuddy-duddy “Inside the Beltway” types vs. Young Turks), and frankly makes all conservatives look a bit extreme and petty.

46 posted on 04/22/2011 1:34:47 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Gail Wynand
"Whatever statutory legal presumptions may apply to a COLB under Hawaii "

Yes, but this issue goes directly to the Supreme Law of the Land. The US Constitution.

Any Federal Judge could subpoena the original registration whenever they believe they have a basis for doing so. As could Congress, either House or Senate. And, of course, the USSC.

I think Obama fights this because he knows all he's got, AT BEST, is nothing besides his mother or grandmother's statement.

He's foreign enough to most folks that this issue has sunk him. It's sunk him even if he can produce a good original...because he has drug it out so long.

A majority do not see him as "one of us" anymore.

47 posted on 04/22/2011 2:06:52 PM PDT by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: Seizethecarp

don’t tell me .. without even reading it .. it is a race issue right????

48 posted on 04/22/2011 3:14:25 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
4. We would want to look at Powell's long form birth certificate to merely make sure that his Jamaican parents were American citizens when Powell was born in New York City and not citizens of Jamaica.

While NY long form certificates do list the birthplace of the parents, they do not identify their citizenship.


This is mirse. Thanks for the information above.

Does it list the race of the parents?

Does it have the name of the doctor and the name of the hospital?

If we wanted to check the citizenship of Powell's parents at the time of Colin's birth, what document would we ask Colin to provide?

I think that whatever document we asked Colin to show to the public in order to prove that his parents were citizens when he was born in New York City, Colin Powell would be more than happy to show us, because I don't think he would have anything to hide, and he would want to quickly put to rest any doubts about his United States citizenship status at the time of his birth.

Thanks again for your help.

49 posted on 04/22/2011 4:30:22 PM PDT by john mirse
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