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Trump’s Eminent-Domain Empire
National Review ^ | 4/22/2011 | Michelle Malkin

Posted on 04/23/2011 7:05:23 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross

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To: muawiyah

Trump bought off the local CRDA board members, literally bought them off. In the years between 1998 and 2006 it was exposed in the atlanticcitypress.com , asburyparkpress.com , and philly.com newspapers at the outright corruption of the eminent domain process and New Jersey’s regional development Authority laws and eminent domain laws.

That’s why Coking was able to go directly after Trump after she won the lawsuit in my prior post where she was represented by Zeitz.


101 posted on 04/23/2011 12:05:51 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: dirtboy

DC government is a federal agency. End of story.


102 posted on 04/23/2011 12:07:36 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: JerseyHighlander
Which is your way of saying "Why, yes, that second reference was to the original action against Coking brought by A.CRDA long before Donald Trump got involved".

Right?

As far as Jersey having corrupt systems this is not news anywhere ~ I am surprised you'd even mention that aspect.

Which means Coking had already been a beneficiary of a corrupt system and sought to become an even larger beneficiary.

Guess Guccione and Trump had the wrong affiliations.

103 posted on 04/23/2011 12:11:00 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
This is truly amazing. You have this posted on your FR profile page:

When it comes to the Supreme Court, the mindnumbed, kneejerk, robotlike Liberal majority that voted to give the rich a key to the property of every poor man in America should be dragged from their homes (or vice versa), and tossed out on their behinds to someplace like France which is more fitted to their temperaments.

Yet now you are on this thread, and apparantly have discarded YOUR OWN PRINCIPLES to try and downplay Trump's absolute support of Kelo.

Man, I had no idea you were that far around the bend. You may have the last lie word, as there is no point debating someone who tosses their own principles aside in such a blatant manner.

104 posted on 04/23/2011 12:23:29 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: muawiyah
Actually, I should just let you debate yourself - your posts on this thread versus your anti-Kelo opinion on your profile page. And here I thought only Mitt Romney could have a debate with himself.

Such is the magic of Trump, apparently.

105 posted on 04/23/2011 12:35:07 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy
Hardly. We know what the motive of the 4 Leftwingtards of the court was ~ it was to steal! That's because they are CRIMINALLY MINDED. However, the question here is not the takings clause but the right of a state to interpret its own understanding of what a taking means.

CT, as a sovereign body, can decide they can steal stuff, so they did (although the amount of payment they offered appeared to meet the "just compensation" standard set in the 5th.). The issue concerned who would benefit from the transaction ~ the state/public at large, as in a public project, or some industrial development.

CT won the right to continue interpreting things just as they'd been doing since before the United States existed.

In other places concerned persons looked at Kelo and set about changing the situation in their own states to conform to what they felt to be a higher moral imperative.

Kelo didn't prevent other states from acting. CT, however, didn't act. That's because public corruption has simply been so deeply incorporated into the way they run things they no longer see it as corruption ~ without Connecticut, New Jersey would have to bow its corporate had in shame.

BTW, it is possible to argue every issue on both sides.

106 posted on 04/23/2011 12:40:06 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Seriously, please just debate yourself. I don’t care to waste any more time with someone as unprincipled as yourself.


107 posted on 04/23/2011 12:41:13 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy
Frankly, I didn't argue with myself. I don't agree with the Kelo outcome with respect to public projects. On the other hand I do agree with the Kelo outcome when it comes to the question of imposing a federal standard on a state when that federal standard is essentially NO DIFFERENT.

You might well think the Fifth limits the use of eminent domain to situations involving government projects ~ but it doesn't. That's one of the reasons the federal interstate highway system was designed and built by the states ~ the states even condemned the land for the roads. That way there was no question that all the land was perceived to have been taken according to local standards ~ whatever they might be.

The issue in Kelo had been around forever and a day ~ it wasn't new.

BTW, USPS is prohibited by federal law (as is the rest of the US government) from acquiring land in advance of planned need for the construction of new postal facilities. They cannot engage in land-banking. Most states prohibit state agency land-banking. Some allow it. That's to avoid downstream ripoffs by speculators who will jack up the price of land to make the government pay more than market value. Land banking helps the government avoid expensive and devisive condemnation actions too.

So, what would you like the government to do uniformly? Buy ahead to avoid getting ripped off? Or, leave it to the speculators and just pay what they ask? Or maybe adopt some other federal wide standard?

Unless you are able to understand these basic government land use questions you have no business in this debate. Besides, as you just found out, I was not out of agreement with Justice Scalia. I was quoting him on Heller.

108 posted on 04/23/2011 12:53:56 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: harpu

Nice. I am sure that you are a wonderful person.....kinda went nuts over nothing.


109 posted on 04/23/2011 1:05:38 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

Trashing my conservative friends Levin, Coulter and Malkin on FR will earn you the coveted zot award.

zot


110 posted on 04/23/2011 2:00:59 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Right on! Levin, Coulter, and Malkin have done good things for conservatism. They’re on our side.


111 posted on 04/23/2011 3:42:31 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. *4192*)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Michelle and my conservative FRiends:

Stop taking Trump seriously. This is an elaborate practical joke he concocted as a publicity stunt. Like a practical joke. Don’t be the last person who hasn’t figured it out.

It’s like the old poker room saying...

If you are sitting around the poker table wondering who the sucker is...you’re it.


112 posted on 04/23/2011 4:15:56 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Beware of the Socialist Government-Academia Grant Junkie-Rich "non-profit"-Liberal Media Complex)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior; darkwing104; 50mm; Old Sarge; 230FMJ; A.Hun; abigailsmybaby; AFPhys; Aircop_2006; ..
UFCRoadWarrior has overdosed on Trump KoolAid and is now departed. See post 110.

To be added or removed from the VK/ZOT list, FReepmail Darkwing104.

113 posted on 04/23/2011 4:19:50 PM PDT by 50mm ( I don't use drugs, my dreams are frightening enough.)
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To: 50mm

iavfz (in after veteran freeper zot)


114 posted on 04/23/2011 4:31:01 PM PDT by GQuagmire (Hey now!)
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To: 50mm
I have been surprised how many have turned on good, proven Conservatives like Malkin, Levin, Coulter, etc and have gone so far as to defend Eminent Domain abuses simply because they challenge their RINO golden boy. People need to read some Machiavelli if they think that Trump is doing anything that will benefit them or is anyway trustworthy.


115 posted on 04/23/2011 4:41:33 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: UCFRoadWarrior; 50mm


116 posted on 04/23/2011 4:56:52 PM PDT by glock rocks (Wait, what?)
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To: mnehring
Maybe Machiavelli has too many big words for them.

Perhaps a tiny stroll down Perot Got Clinton Elected Avenue would do...

117 posted on 04/23/2011 4:59:45 PM PDT by glock rocks (Wait, what?)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior
Dang, you have had been here longer than I have.


118 posted on 04/23/2011 5:09:24 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (CW II will be the conservatives against the communists and Marxists.)
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To: 50mm
He was such a naughty boy. A timeout in the corner was called for.

"But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: for men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away, for his name is Obama."

119 posted on 04/23/2011 5:34:44 PM PDT by Viking2002 (RELEASE THE KRAKEN!!!!!!)
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To: muawiyah
DC government is a federal agency. End of story.

I'm beginning to think of referring to it as the Federal Feral Government.

Cheers!

120 posted on 04/23/2011 5:37:09 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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