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The author starts with an event so statisticly improbable that it only happens once every decade or so in a population of over 300 million people. This has been an ongoing project of the anti-freedom types. It is backdoor gun registration. Get information about who owns guns into the medical data base. Make the medical database accessable to the federal government. Then when you want to confiscate guns, you have probable cause about where they are. A large, undesirable effect is the demonization of guns, and making them less available for self defense. There are about 600-700 fatal firearms accidents per year in the United States. There are about three million home invasions in the United States in a year. Which is the greater risk?
1 posted on 04/23/2011 8:26:20 AM PDT by marktwain
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if the physician actually wants to help, just give the frickin advice without asking the question.


2 posted on 04/23/2011 8:29:25 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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How much better off might we all be if these Political Activists had studied medicine rather than Women’s Cultural Studies and Alynski Agitation.
They are there to treat symptoms not Agitate. Do no harm. Don’t raise my blood pressure.


3 posted on 04/23/2011 8:30:37 AM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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More children under the age of 5 drown in five-gallon buckets every year than are killed by firearms.

Does the good doctor ask patients how many five-gallon buckets they have around the house?

4 posted on 04/23/2011 8:33:36 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (When and why did Steve Dunham change his name to Barack Hussein Obama? When he converted to Islam?)
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FYI


5 posted on 04/23/2011 8:34:38 AM PDT by SLB (23rd Artillery Group, Republic of South Vietnam, Aug 1970 - Aug 1971.)
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shooting deaths are the second highest cause of injuries

Deaths cause injuries, who knew!

7 posted on 04/23/2011 8:38:44 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Public education is WELFARE.)
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The first time a doctor asks me a question like that, they just as well start preparing a copy of my medical records to forward to my new doctor.


8 posted on 04/23/2011 8:40:29 AM PDT by digger48
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First time I got asked about guns by a pediatrician my son was 2.

When the Doc asked his question there was no other safety issue except guns in his line of questioning.

Confronted with some facts about pools, open 5 gal paint buckets full of water, stairways, cribs, window blinds and other much more prevalent causes of childhood death, this doctor started backpedaling while displaying the ignorance and inability to articulate of the uneducated.

I was flabbergasted at the ‘true believer’ partisan type knee jerk behind the whole gun questioning thing from that doctor. He was not informed enough to have credible reasons behind his generic question. And had no background or defense for why he was even asking them.

When confronted with the fact that he was basically spouting the line of bull directly from the American Academy of Pediatricians, word for word, with no care in the world about the basis. It was more than obvious that he was just marching in synch - all the other peds do this, just part of his training in his specialty.

Pediatricians are sheep. But no mistake, they are the enemy of a free society. THey know much better than we do.


9 posted on 04/23/2011 8:42:39 AM PDT by Borderline
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shooting deaths are the second highest cause of injuries among those ages 10 to 24, behind car accidents.

Can't anybody write anymore?

I also very seriously doubt the statistic is even accurate, assuming I understand what the author is trying to say.

In actual fact, of course, guns are WAY down the list of health hazards to children.

In fact, if you have both a gun and a swimming pool, your pool is about 100x more likely to kill a child than your gun.

http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2001/07/levittpoolsvsguns.php

BTW, 24 year old children?

10 posted on 04/23/2011 8:46:12 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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Doctors have gotten away from treating the patient and started focusing on “the greater good”. You see it in simple actions such as instead of prescribing a simple pain killer, you'll find yourself with a hand full a tricky drugs that work on the enzymatic level that may or may not screw your kidneys
11 posted on 04/23/2011 8:48:29 AM PDT by NativeSon
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"I think we as physicians are within our rights to discuss any issue we deem appropriate," he said.

Doctors have always been overly impressed with themselves, and the rest of society, until recently, has aided them by putting them up on undeserved pedestals. They actually know very little about how to treat the human body because their paradigm is wrong.

The only time I ever go to a "doctor" is if one of my teeth needs work.

13 posted on 04/23/2011 8:58:39 AM PDT by tisket ("So many guns around town and so few brains." - Humphrey Bogart in "The Big Sleep")
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The business of physicians asking all these questions about guns in the home is the brainchild of national antigun forces. It is intended to be a political tool, aimed at changing public perception of RKBA.

It is "progressive" brainwashing, pure and simple!

15 posted on 04/23/2011 9:00:36 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER
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I don’t think its just pediatricians. Last time I went to see my doc, the nurse asked if I had firearms in the house. I told her that was a totally inappropriate question and she didn’t press the issue. I complained to my doc and turns out he’s a hunter. I should have pressed harder but he’s such a sweetie.


16 posted on 04/23/2011 9:02:29 AM PDT by Mercat (Christ has died, Christ is risen, Christ will come again.)
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I would imagine that a pediatric cardiologist is probably a high risk medical specialty. I wonder how the doctor would feel if his patients asked him how many children died while under his care and how many malpractice lawsuits have been brought against him?
That would seem to me to be a more pertinent bit of information.
22 posted on 04/23/2011 9:09:32 AM PDT by Malone LaVeigh
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Dear Doctor:
None of your FOCKING Business...


23 posted on 04/23/2011 9:10:00 AM PDT by wetgundog (" Extremism in the Defense of Liberty is no Vice")
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"I think we as physicians are within our rights to discuss any issue we deem appropriate," he said.

"Joey, do you like movies about gladiators?"

24 posted on 04/23/2011 9:13:27 AM PDT by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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I would have had a two word answer for the “doctor.”


26 posted on 04/23/2011 9:14:57 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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If they give me aform asking for this info it’s

NOYFB


27 posted on 04/23/2011 9:18:23 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Let's apply the "reasonable man" standard to gun laws. How many would stand?)
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While it is the physician’s right to turn down patients, patients threatened with being turned down by their pediatrician because of guns should turn the tables on the pediatrician.

This is done when the pediatrician tells them why he is turning them down.

The patient should then tell the pediatrician that because of this, the pediatrician’s name will now be registered as a “Civil Rights unfriendly” doctor on the Internet, so that other potential parents who are gun owners may reject his services out of hand, taking their business elsewhere.

Of course, most people would interpret “Civil Rights unfriendly” as meaning that the doctor is a racist. But that is not the gun owner’s problem. Gun ownership is most definitely a “Civil Right” as well, so it is not the gun owner’s problem that people will think the pediatrician is a Klansman or something.

But sure as all get out, the pediatrician will care.

Yet the gun owner should be magnanimous, in that pediatricians are not that common, and he should then offer the pediatrician a deal: If he, the pediatrician is willing to provide medical services to the best of his ability, absent any further inquiries about guns, then the patient is willing to be otherwise friendly and cooperative, and not register the pediatrician as “Civil Rights unfriendly”.

Pediatrician’s choice. If he wants to be an oppressive dork, then he should be treated as such.


28 posted on 04/23/2011 9:20:33 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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The reporter is way behind the facts.

The bill was rewritten to actually address the issue (illegal registration), while allowing doctors and patients to exercise free will and free choice.

Doctors can now ask direct questions (which many patients need and desire), but they cannot register ownership. Insurance companies are also banned from recording anything involving firearms.

Th original bill as written was ludicrous. It made it a felony for your family doctor and friend of 30 years to ask you about your new shotgun, a felony for a doctor to ask about an Alzheimer patient’s access to firearms, or an ER doc to ask an incoming gangbanger if he had a firearm on him.

Unfortunately, by not respecting physicians’ personal freedom and treating all doctors like hardcore Lefties, the original bill only served to make enemies where none previously existed.

Please, don't tell me that I don't know the background here. I've almost certainly been all through it many more times than you.

29 posted on 04/23/2011 9:22:55 AM PDT by SampleMan (If all of the people currently oppressed shared a common geography, bullets would already be flying.)
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Lie. That’s what I did.

There was a law passed under Clinton or George Bush that required this firearms question to be asked of new patients. This is not new but it is a broadening of the law.

Darned if I can find the name of that bill though.


31 posted on 04/23/2011 9:35:11 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (The last Democrat worth a damn was Stalin. He purged his whole Party.)
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