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Church Blocks Reforms Over Royal Marriage [Royals Can Marry Muslims But NOT Catholics]
Telegraph(UK) ^ | April 24, 2011 | Rosa Prince

Posted on 04/24/2011 4:00:35 PM PDT by Steelfish

Church Blocks Reforms Over Royal Marriages The Church of England has blocked a Government move to scrap a centuries-old law which prevents members of the Royal family from marrying Roman Catholics, The Daily Telegraph has learnt.

If the Supreme Governor of the Church of England was a Roman Catholic, they would ultimately be answerable to a separate sovereign leader, the Pope, and the Vatican. 24 Apr 2011

Nick Clegg, the Deputy Prime Minister, began work towards repealing the 1701 Act of Settlement, under which heirs to the throne must renounce their claim on marrying a Roman Catholic, in order to introduce full equality between the faiths. Talks were held with the Anglican Church as part of wider discussions on constitutional reform, which come under his remit as Deputy Prime Minister.

The reforms have also led to steps being made towards securing the agreement of the Commonwealth to end the common law principle of male primogeniture, under which the younger sons of royalty have precedence over their older sisters. However, the plan to abolish the Act of Settlement was quietly shelved after the Church raised significant objections centring on the British sovereign’s dual role as Supreme Governor.

Church leaders expressed concern that if a future heir to the throne married a Roman Catholic, their children would be required by canon law to be brought up in that faith. This would result in the constitutionally problematic situation whereby the Supreme Governor of the Church of England was a Roman Catholic, and so ultimately answerable to a separate sovereign leader, the Pope, and the Vatican. There is no similar prohibition on the Royal family marrying members of other faiths such as Islam and Judaism, or those who are openly agnostic or atheist.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: anglican; catholic; coe; crown; europeanchristians; islam; nickclegg; royals; ukmuslims
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1 posted on 04/24/2011 4:00:38 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

Of course the simple and most logical explanation for this is that Roman Catholics do not crash planes into buildings and behead people when they get pissed off.


2 posted on 04/24/2011 4:02:50 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: Steelfish

So Diana shagging Abu Doody Poopie is all good now.

I probably spelled his name incorrectly.


3 posted on 04/24/2011 4:04:30 PM PDT by humblegunner (Blogger Overlord)
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To: Steelfish

They think you can marry a Muslim and not have the kids brought up Muslim? Maybe they’d better think twice.

British anti-Catholiocism is very, very strong. And the present Archbishop of Canterbury seems to think that Muslims are admirable.


4 posted on 04/24/2011 4:05:15 PM PDT by Cicero
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To: pnh102

I would like to see Britain renounce all royalty and establish themselves as a capitalist republic (like America used to be). Instead of restoring the kings and queens they would devote their time and efforts to productivity and profit. They might even regain their stature in the Western World.


5 posted on 04/24/2011 4:08:13 PM PDT by Rapscallion (Obama is a fraud. The founders gave us the tool of impeachment for a reason.)
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To: sionnsar

Anglican ping


6 posted on 04/24/2011 4:12:09 PM PDT by kalee (The offences we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: Steelfish

Are marriages between a Protestant and a Catholic recognized by the Roman Catholic Church; what if performed by Protestant clergy, in a Protestant church? Just asking, I don’t know.


7 posted on 04/24/2011 4:12:42 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: Steelfish

Unless they change the rule and allow a Catholic monarch, this will be the last generation of the monarchy. The Church of England is dying, and what will survive will be reconciled to the Catholic Church. If the Church of England dies, so does one of the reasons for the monarchy itself. It will be swept away along with the discarded church.


8 posted on 04/24/2011 4:22:38 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: pnh102

A quick look at the history of the British Isles from the late 1500’s through 1690 will explain why the prohibition on Roman Catholics exists. It was a long and bloody series of wars over English self government and Protestant religion.


9 posted on 04/24/2011 4:31:27 PM PDT by GreenLanternCorps ("Barack Obama" is Swahili for "Jimmy Carter".)
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10 posted on 04/24/2011 4:31:27 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|http://pure-gas.org|Must be a day for changing taglines)
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To: pnh102

The purpose of this act is to prevent the Bourbon king of France from obtaining control of the English government.


11 posted on 04/24/2011 4:32:11 PM PDT by proxy_user
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To: Steelfish

State religions and monarchies are stupid anachronisms.


12 posted on 04/24/2011 4:35:52 PM PDT by yup2394871293
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To: Cicero
British anti-Catholiocism is very, very strong.

Really? Why?
13 posted on 04/24/2011 4:37:45 PM PDT by yup2394871293
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To: Vince Ferrer
"Unless they change the rule and allow a Catholic monarch, this will be the last generation of the monarchy."

I have this expectation once Elizabeth II passes, Prince Charles and Rowan Williams will both state the shahadah prior to the crowning of Charles. Williams will redesignate Westminster Abbey as the Grand Mosque of Westminster, Williams will crown Charles the King of the Islamic Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and King Charles will declare Williams the Grand Imam of Canterbury, and leader of the official state church of the United Kingdom.

As for what happens with Emir William at that point, I have no idea.

14 posted on 04/24/2011 4:38:21 PM PDT by magellan
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To: Rapscallion

You do realize that “republicans” in the UK are left wingers who want to establish a socialist republic, not a republic as we know it? Conservatives in the UK support the Crown.


15 posted on 04/24/2011 4:39:28 PM PDT by GreenLanternCorps ("Barack Obama" is Swahili for "Jimmy Carter".)
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To: GreenLanternCorps

Whoop. That was centuries ago. Doubt many Brits bother to attend church at all these days. That’s the real problem.


16 posted on 04/24/2011 4:39:32 PM PDT by yup2394871293
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To: proxy_user

Is? Who is the current king of France?


17 posted on 04/24/2011 4:41:57 PM PDT by yup2394871293
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To: yup2394871293

I agree with you about chruch attendence in the UK.


18 posted on 04/24/2011 4:43:01 PM PDT by GreenLanternCorps ("Barack Obama" is Swahili for "Jimmy Carter".)
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To: gusopol3
Are marriages between a Protestant and a Catholic recognized by the Roman Catholic Church; what if performed by Protestant clergy, in a Protestant church? Just asking, I don’t know.

The church has to give special permissions, called "dispensations"; one to allow the wedding to take place in a Protestant church, and one to allow the wedding to use the Protestant ceremony.

I'm Catholic, and was married in an Episcopal church. If I can do it, the Royal family can as well. ;-)

WRT children being brought up Catholic, the Vatican has been known to dispense from that requirement for the heirs to thrones in Protestant kingdoms. The Brits could also show a little flexibility and allow a Catholic king (if there were one) to appoint a governor over the CofE to act in his place.

19 posted on 04/24/2011 4:43:38 PM PDT by Campion ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies when they become fashions." -- GKC)
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To: GreenLanternCorps

Well, we dumped the UK royals and declared a republic a couple centuries ago. That must mean we’re socialists.


20 posted on 04/24/2011 4:44:31 PM PDT by yup2394871293
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