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Afghan Officer Fires on NATO Troops, Kills 9
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Posted on 04/27/2011 5:13:56 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA

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To: littleharbour

History does not call Afghanistan the “Graveyard of Empires” for nothing, you know.

It’s a pity that our own “leadership” is digging our grave over there deeper all the time. The first to be dumped in will be America’s best and bravest. Then Obama’s real “army” of LosZetas, Hammass smuggled over the porous border disguised as “undocumented workers”, foreign mercenaries (where do you think the $trillions that went missing from the FED went?) and hardened, lethal organized felons and street gangs can engage in the only war that he really intends to “win”; the war against US. His “Domestic Security Force” superior to our native military that he promised during the campaign is already staged among us, lurking in the shadows and alleyways of our cities and towns, just waiting for the order to attack. Any day now.

Stay tuned, Sports Fans!


41 posted on 04/27/2011 10:53:18 AM PDT by George Varnum (Liberty, like our Forefather's Flintlock Musket, must be kept clean, oiled, and READY!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Unfortunately, to really keep the “loyalty” of such people in a way they understand - we would have to know where this man lives, where his extended family lives, and should they pull such a stunt in the future, his entire family would be killed.

Of course, we are not in such a business. That’s why we can not civilize these people.


42 posted on 04/27/2011 12:57:00 PM PDT by PGR88 (I'm so open-minded my brains fell out)
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To: Walkingfeather
if we were serious about winning it would have been over.

It was over 15 minutes after it started. Just like Iraq. We "won". What is going on is colonization ("nation building"). For some reason, the natives object.

I am so sick of hearing these called "wars" and the terms "winning" and "losing" tossed around. The military did its job. They won. They should come home.

43 posted on 04/27/2011 1:52:06 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (I'd rather be Plaxico Burress than Sean Taylor)
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To: Forgotten Amendments
"I am so sick of hearing these called "wars" and the terms "winning" and "losing" tossed around. The military did its job. They won. They should come home. "

A great post. Whenever the military achieves its objective the goal posts move and the mission keeps creeping. Our war is finished. If this is someone else's war then they should step up.

44 posted on 04/27/2011 2:02:05 PM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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To: Red in Blue PA
The U.S. needs stop going to war period because our leaders don't go to war to win anymore. How did our civil war and WW2 get resolved before our wars with Afghanistan and Iraq? These wars should have been resolved several years ago and could have been if we had fought a total war. If I don't believe a war should be fought to win at all cost then I don't believe it's a war that is important enough to be fought at all.
45 posted on 04/27/2011 4:11:45 PM PDT by ThermoNuclearWarrior (Illegal immigration is a bigger security threat to our nation than any terrorist group.)
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To: Red in Blue PA
The U.S. needs stop going to war period because our leaders don't go to war to win anymore. How did our civil war and WW2 get resolved before our wars with Afghanistan and Iraq? These wars should have been resolved several years ago and could have been if we had fought a total war. If I don't believe a war should be fought to win at all cost then I don't believe it's a war that is important enough to be fought at all.
46 posted on 04/27/2011 4:15:40 PM PDT by ThermoNuclearWarrior (Illegal immigration is a bigger security threat to our nation than any terrorist group.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Nation building in 3rd world cesspools does not work.


47 posted on 04/27/2011 4:32:05 PM PDT by KantianBurke (Hey Tea Party folks - what about Social Security reform?)
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To: KantianBurke

Especially when it’s literally one of the most uncivilized nations on earth. It makes most other third world nations look great in comparison.


48 posted on 04/27/2011 5:18:07 PM PDT by ThermoNuclearWarrior (Illegal immigration is a bigger security threat to our nation than any terrorist group.)
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To: ThermoNuclearWarrior
"Especially when it’s literally one of the most uncivilized nations on earth" It's NOT a nation. I repeat, Afghanistan is NOT a nation. Its a loose collection of tribes and tribal allegiances. To think it ever was, is or will be a nation is the number one strategic mistake that got us into this mess.
49 posted on 04/27/2011 6:24:29 PM PDT by JadeEmperor
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To: Red in Blue PA

In a way we can thank Brits for this mess.

These post-colonial “nations” should have long ago been allowed to fragment along tribal lines, and not arbitrarily drawn up by the former colonial powers borders, instead of pretending there is actually a “nation” of Afghanistan.


50 posted on 04/27/2011 6:27:25 PM PDT by JadeEmperor
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To: Pan_Yan

Your opinion should be developed into a Army Field Manual.

FM - 101

How to deal with koranimals.


51 posted on 04/27/2011 6:52:40 PM PDT by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: Red in Blue PA
How many incidents of this type have occurred so far. I have always said you can't trust these bastards. Now his brother says he has been under stress for financial reasons. it is always and excuse with these people like saying the killer is mentally ill. There is not one Muslim in Afghanistan or Pakistan and damn few in Iraq worth the lives of one of our military.
52 posted on 04/27/2011 7:24:18 PM PDT by Americanexpat (Everytime I see that guy's face ot)
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To: littleharbour

Post of the Day Award!


53 posted on 04/27/2011 7:36:26 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: kevslisababy

My son is coming home Friday from Afghanistan, via Germany, on a stretcher. But at least he will be out of there and alive!

Our brave sons pay the price. I hope he will fully recover.


54 posted on 04/27/2011 7:56:14 PM PDT by lookout88 (.combat officer's dad)
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NOTE The following text is a quote:

www.defense.gov//News/NewsArticle.aspx?ID=63708

Shooting Incident in Kabul Leaves 9 Dead

Compiled from International Security Assistance Force Joint Command News Releases

WASHINGTON, April 27, 2011 – Eight International Security Assistance Force service members and an ISAF civilian died today following a shooting incident in Afghanistan’s capital of Kabul, military officials reported.

Marine Corps Col. Dave Lapan, a Pentagon spokesman, said ISAF has confirmed that the service members and civilian were Americans. Because next of kin had not yet been notified, he would not provide the service affiliations of the service members who were killed.

The shooter reportedly was an Afghan air force officer who was killed during the incident, Lapan said.

A written statement released by ISAF headquarters in Kabul said the command joins Afghan President Hamid Karzai in condemning the attack.

In the statement, Army Lt. Gen. William V. Caldwell IV, commander of NATO Training Mission Afghanistan, said the deaths of nine coalition trainers are “a tragic loss.”

“On behalf of those here at NTM-A, and all of ISAF, I wish to convey our heartfelt condolences to the families of the trainers killed today,” Caldwell said.

“President Karzai has directed an investigation into this morning’s events,” Navy Rear Adm. Hal Pittman, senior ISAF spokesman, said in the statement. “ISAF is already working closely with our Afghan partners to determine the circumstances surrounding the incident.”

In other news from Afghanistan:

Coalition forces killed at least 10 armed insurgents during operations yesterday along Afghanistan’s border with Pakistan.

Troops used artillery fire after receiving reports that a group of armed insurgents planned to attack their patrol. Several insurgents were killed in the engagement, officials said.

The same patrol later came under attack by another group of armed insurgents. Troops returned fire, killing several more enemy fighters. An air weapons team providing overwatch security for the patrol launched a third engagement after seeing three more armed insurgents maneuvering into Afghanistan from Pakistan. Two were injured and one was wounded, officials said.

In other operations yesterday:

— Afghan and coalition forces in Khost province’s Sabari district captured several suspected insurgents, including the senior Hezb-e Islami Gulbuddin leader responsible for all operations in the province.

— Security forces detained a Taliban leader and several of his suspected associates allegedly responsible for launching attacks on troops in Kandahar province’s Dand district.

— In Helmand province’s Sangin district, troops captured three suspected insurgents, including a Taliban weapons trafficker responsible for supplying enemy fighters with money, explosives and munitions.

— Forces detained two suspected insurgents, including a Taliban leader responsible for coordinating and carrying out attacks on security forces in Nangarhar province’s Sherzad district.

— Security forces found several weapons and drug stockpiles throughout Afghanistan. The operations resulted in seizure of 1 million Afghan afghanis, which is the equivalent of $23,264, more than 4,000 pounds of marijuana, 2,250 assault-rifle rounds, 90 hand grenades, 60 rocket-propelled grenade boosters, 13 82 mm mortar shells, two automatic machine guns, an assault rifle and antiaircraft ammunitions.

(Lisa Daniel of American Forces Press Service contributed to this report.)

Related Sites:
NATO International Security Assistance Force


55 posted on 01/18/2012 1:42:58 AM PST by Cindy
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www.defense.gov//News/NewsArticle.aspx?ID=66818

“Kabul Airport Shooting Probe Determines Gunman Acted Alone”
From a U.S. Air Force News Release

WASHINGTON, Jan. 17, 2012 – The Air Force’s investigation into an April 27 shooting incident that left eight U.S. airmen and a civilian contractor dead at the Afghan air force headquarters in Kabul, Afghanistan, determined that the gunman acted alone.

In addition to the U.S. personnel killed, two Afghans were shot and three other Afghans were injured in the attack. The attacker — Col. Ahmed Gul of the Afghan air force — was killed during the incident.

The Air Force Office of Special Investigations report concludes Gul acted alone and discusses factors that may have played a role in the attack, which took place in the Afghan Command and Control Center at North Kabul International Airport.

While the investigation did not determine a conclusive motive for the killing, the report says, the attack appeared to be premeditated, and witness statements indicated Gul may have had personal issues that may have been compounded by financial problems.

The OSI findings do not support media reports shortly after the incident that an argument may have occurred earlier that day between the shooter and the American service members or reports that the gunman disarmed and methodically killed the airmen.

Since the incident, several security initiatives have been implemented to improve the force-protection posture for the coalition advisers, International Security Assistance Force officials said.

Extra personnel have been assigned to the force-protection mission, and air advisors have received additional “active shooter” training, officials said, increasing the likelihood a shooter can be neutralized safely before attacking additional victims. Also, they added, intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance capabilities have improved, command and control upgrades have been initiated, and several emergency response vehicles have been purchased.

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NATO International Security Assistance Force
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Shooting Incident in Kabul Leaves 9 Dead


56 posted on 01/18/2012 1:46:43 AM PST by Cindy
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