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Purported birth certificate signed by "U K L Lee" – proving forgery -- may play Obama's swan song
Israel Insider ^ | 04/28/2011 | Israel Insider

Posted on 04/28/2011 10:02:01 PM PDT by Smokeyblue

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To: Chunga

http://myveryownpointofview.wordpress.com/hawaiis-fathers-race-codes


141 posted on 04/29/2011 7:14:46 PM PDT by Ladysforest
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To: Smokeyblue

Another curiosity about the Obama BC. This is based on the fact that I first learned to type using a old mechanical typewriter. Anyone who has ever used one of these knows how they work. You insert the paper, or pre-printed form, and roll the form until you get to where you want to type the first line. I learned during class that the first thing you do is set the left tab and then hit the carriage return so that the carriage returns to the first far left column. Then you start typing. Each letter you type takes up the same amount of space. The letter “i” takes up the same space as capital “W.” Even the space bar moves the carriage one space. After you finish the first line, you hit carriage return again. The paper advances one line and moves the carriage back to the left tab position.

Now, why is this relevant ?? For anyone who has tried to fill out a form on a manual typewriter, its not easy. But there are simple things that a good typist does to make it easier. First is to always make sure the left tab is inside the form. Why? Because, with very few exceptions, you will always start typing in the first column. Look at this BC from xx and also the Nordyke Twins. Whoever type the information always started at the left tab. Not so with Obama’s BC. There is no reason why the typist would purposely indent lines 10, 13, and 15.

Another thing a good typist does is set another tab to move the carriage to a position that is frequently used. The precludes the typist from having to hit the space bar over and over again to get to that position. In the two example BC, sections 9, 12b, and 14 appear to be a tab setting. Not so on Barry’s BC.

As I mentioned earlier, the carriage return moves the form forward one line at a time. This is a gear that clicks once for each carriage return. Its a constant distance between each line. Witness the first line of the two example BC. Every line after that starts in the same position. You can clearly see that the horizontal position of each line is the same in all of the boxes. The exception is the Obama BC. The first line starts higher than the subsequent line. This is not possible because the carriage return is a gear... unless the typist released the form and the re-positioned it lower, for no reason at all.

However, the most disturbing observation with Barry’s BC is the ‘X’ in box 3. As I mentioned earlier, each character (or blank) takes up the same space. That’s why all the characters line up through the entire document. However, the ‘X’ that indicates Single Birth is off by half a character. It should line up with either the “B’ or the “A” above it, or the “t” or “e” below it. But it just doesn’t line up.


142 posted on 04/29/2011 10:31:52 PM PDT by UglyinLA
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; ...

Tie-nee-bubbles...


143 posted on 04/30/2011 10:36:04 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: muawiyah
I thought I'd made it clear that I'm not interested in your take.

I'm waiting for curiosity to post proof backing up his assertion.

144 posted on 05/01/2011 9:29:48 AM PDT by Chunga (I can see 2012 from my house. Go, Sarah, GO!! - Jim Robinson)
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145 posted on 05/01/2011 10:03:52 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Chunga
That's not my "take". I speak from a position of authority and experience in dealing with forms design (1000+) and federal law.

Unless a document has a "WARNING" people will do whatever they want anyway. Here's what I mean by a WARNING (or notice of legal liability):

The mailer's signature certifies acceptance of liability for and agreement to pay any revenue deficiencies assessed on this mailing, subject to appeal. If an agent signs this form, the agent certifies that he or she is authorized to sign on behalf of the mailer and that the mailer is bound by the certification and agrees to pay any deficiencies. In addition, agents may be liable for any deficiencies resulting from matters within their responsibility, knowledge, or control. The mailer hereby certifies that all information furnished on this form is accurate, truthful, and complete; that the mail and the supporting documentation comply with all postal standards and the mailing qualifies for the prices and fees claimed; and that the mailing does not contain any matter prohibited by law or postal regulation. I understand that anyone who furnishes false or misleading information on this form or who omits information requested on this form may be subject to criminal and/or civil penalties, including fines and imprisonment.

There's nothing of the kind on the original document. This is what it seems to be ~ a document with information on it that's either required by law ~ the signatures ~ or taken down without oath or affirmation.

By all that's Holy if you had to tell the absolute every jot and tittle truth on this kind of document the federal courts would be locked down for the next 100 centuries.

No threat of law, no force of law ~ pregnant women, then their babies ~ that's all it's really about.

146 posted on 05/01/2011 10:11:04 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: curiosity
You've stated here and elsewhere that

Parents are allowed to put whatever they want in the "race" box.

Source. please.

147 posted on 05/01/2011 6:03:15 PM PDT by Chunga (I can see 2012 from my house. Go, Sarah, GO!! - Jim Robinson)
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To: Chunga
Source. please.

Sorry for the delay. Here you go:

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/dvs/birth11-03final-ACC.pdf

That's the CDC standard BC template. You will notice that a parent can check "other" and fill in the blank.

148 posted on 05/02/2011 3:12:54 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: P-Marlowe

How do you know the birth certificate signed by U.K.L.Lee isn’t a ‘PLANT’ by the 0bama regime to falsely corroborate or legitimize 0bama’s bc? I would like further proof that “Edith Coats’” bc is legit. I would like to see evidence of an embossed seal, etc. I don’t trust Hawaii either. They are as trustworthy as Bernie Madoff and would gladly furnish forged documents to legitimize their ‘son’.


149 posted on 03/10/2012 12:43:50 PM PST by FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
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To: patlin

0bama’s bc #10641 was supposedly stolen from Virginia Sunahara who was born at that same time and died the next day.


150 posted on 03/10/2012 12:46:59 PM PST by FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
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To: Smokeyblue

ping


151 posted on 03/10/2012 12:49:00 PM PST by wintertime (Reforming a government K-12 school is like reforming an abortion center.)
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To: shadowland
I googled and came up with "Mrs. Verna K. L. Lee." -- "LEE Verna K L Mrs. clk State Dept of Health r1228 a 16th av".

Pretty f*ing stupid for anybody to take UKL Lee seriously as the name on the document.

152 posted on 03/10/2012 12:53:58 PM PST by x
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