[Nowhere Man]

And when do you stop? When do you put a new government in place? How pure is pure? Do you end up with a Stalinist leader who keeps the death squads going?

Please undersand, I am not being provocative. I have a hard time seeing how we can succeed without it ending up being worse.

I still think we have time within the system. At least until 2012.

Yeah, I think we need to address all points here. There is a side to me that says, "bring it on, let's rumble and get it over with" like the rival gangs in the 1979 movie, "The Wanderers."

Still there are a lot of complicated matters. I think for something like our side to succeed is to either have a collapse and hopefully our side is faster and better at picking up the pieces and rebuild than theirs. The other way is a group of States to secede and hopefully send a message that way. Personally, we need to use the system to put in people to defund the left, maybe that's the best way.

[B4Ranch]

IMO, the Courts will need a serious scrubbing with industrial level cleaners before we can attempt to rebuild. This is something that I don’t have the foggiest idea idea of how to approach. Without a fair and balanced legal system we can never obtain the freedoms and securities we dream for.