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Birth certificate conflicts with father's real birthday?
World Net Daily ^ | April 30, 2011 | Art Moore

Posted on 04/30/2011 10:22:10 PM PDT by Brown Deer

Newly released immigration documents indicate Obama Sr. was 2 years older

Overshadowed by reaction to the release of Barack Obama's long-form birth certificate was the unearthing of half-century-old files that cast doubt on whether the age of the president's father indicated on the Hawaii document is accurate.

The applications, memos and other documents from the Immigration and Naturalization Service acquired in a Freedom of Information Act request by Heather Smathers of the Arizona Independent – which indicate Barack Obama Sr. would have been 27 at the time of his son's birth, not 25 – also suggest that the president's father did not leave the islands from the time of his August 1959 arrival until he departed for graduate studies at Harvard in June 1962.


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KEYWORDS: bc; birthcertificate; certifigate; colbfake; dncfraud; eligibility; enoughalready; fraud; hawaii; ineligibleimpostor; ineligibleobama; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamasr; pelosifraud
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Curiously, on an Aug. 17, 1962, application to extend his visa, Obama Sr. filled in a line asking him to list the names and addresses of children. The only child he listed was Roy Obama, a son from his Kenyan wife, Kezia. At that time, Barack Obama Jr. was 1 year old.
1 posted on 04/30/2011 10:22:14 PM PDT by Brown Deer
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To: LucyT; Jim Robinson

ping


2 posted on 04/30/2011 10:22:55 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer

Curiouser and curiouser


3 posted on 04/30/2011 10:25:59 PM PDT by hattend (How much do you have to invest in the future before you've spent it and no longer have one? - Steyn)
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To: Brown Deer

“Nationality: British.” That’s all anyone needs to know.


4 posted on 04/30/2011 10:27:46 PM PDT by ponygirl
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To: Brown Deer
The only child he listed was Roy Obama, a son from his Kenyan wife, Kezia. At that time, Barack Obama Jr. was 1 year old.

Wonder how the OBOT crew are going to handle that?
Would seem to be hard to forget a kid that has your name.

5 posted on 04/30/2011 10:35:20 PM PDT by The Cajun (Palin, Bachmann, Free Republic, Mark Levin, Rush, Hannity......Nuff said.)
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To: ponygirl
“Nationality: British.” That’s all anyone needs to know.

Bingo. Okay, now all states enact eligibility laws with Natural Born Citizen proof language in each bill. We know what the FF intended so let's have the Natural Born Citizen definition clarified in court, all the way up to SCOTUS.

Let's get on with it!

6 posted on 04/30/2011 10:37:50 PM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Brown Deer; Fred Nerks; Red Steel; Danae; butterdezillion; rxsid; bushpilot1

.. Ping!


7 posted on 04/30/2011 10:43:07 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: Brown Deer; Nepeta; Plummz; Bikkuri; GregNH; Fantasywriter; warsaw44; ColdOne; ...
Birth certificate conflicts with father's real birthday?
World Net Daily ^ | April 30, 2011 | Art Moore

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Newly released immigration documents indicate Obama Sr. was 2 years older

Overshadowed by reaction to the release of Barack Obama's long-form birth certificate was the unearthing of half-century-old files that cast doubt on whether the age of the president's father indicated on the Hawaii document is accurate.

Thanks, Brown Deer.

8 posted on 04/30/2011 10:51:04 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: Brown Deer

Sounds like the old man was a gigolo and a huckster...


9 posted on 04/30/2011 10:54:58 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: Brown Deer

He was such a playboy that I doubt he wanted to tell the truth on those docs. I also don’t think Stanley Ann or little Barack meant much to him.


10 posted on 04/30/2011 10:55:29 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle
Nothin’ but trailer trash. From one end of the park to the other...
11 posted on 04/30/2011 11:03:41 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the Constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: STARWISE

http://www.scribd.com/doc/54015762/Barack-Hussein-Obama-Sr-Immigration-File


12 posted on 04/30/2011 11:06:07 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: LucyT

Barack H Obama Senior.......running around with several girls....He was “Drivng Miss Daisy”, and a few others!

Obama Senior, was reported to be a fan of Western movies..Gene Autry in particular.

Back in the Saddle Again http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuX28N2ckk0


13 posted on 04/30/2011 11:14:52 PM PDT by outhousepatrol
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To: Brown Deer

Revised title of Bambi’s great literary miracle biography:

“Dreams From My Azzhole”


14 posted on 04/30/2011 11:18:50 PM PDT by Blado (Audemus jura nostra defendere)
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To: Blado

No, it can’t be called an AUTObiography because he didn’t write it.


15 posted on 04/30/2011 11:25:54 PM PDT by Blado (Audemus jura nostra defendere)
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To: hattend
Curiouser and curiouser

I was just thinking exactly that.

16 posted on 04/30/2011 11:28:36 PM PDT by wastedyears (It has nothing to do with safety, and everything to do with control.)
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/


17 posted on 04/30/2011 11:29:11 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Brown Deer
[In 1961] On the form, he listed his total income as $1,190 and his total yearly expenses as $2,040.

One more example of like father, like son. Except "son" adds about six more zeroes to the numbers.

18 posted on 04/30/2011 11:32:45 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Brown Deer
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19 posted on 04/30/2011 11:35:13 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: Brown Deer

Having impregnated a 17 year old, I could see how Obama Sr would have an interest in being perceived as younger.


20 posted on 04/30/2011 11:41:24 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: Yaelle

This was during the days of segregation. In view of the historical context here, Obama’s lack of desire to list Obama as his child could also be explained the fact that a black man having a child with a white women at the time was actually illegal in many states under segregationist laws. There was even a formal legal term for this offense.

Obama could have been arrested and put in jail for this. As a foreign visitor, he almost certainly would have been deported back to Kenya. The documents show that he was de facto deported and his indiscretions with various women were at least part of the reason


21 posted on 04/30/2011 11:43:14 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: Brown Deer
Curiously, on an Aug. 17, 1962, application to extend his visa, Obama Sr. filled in a line asking him to list the names and addresses of children. The only child he listed was Roy Obama, a son from his Kenyan wife, Kezia. At that time, Barack Obama Jr. was 1 year old.

I would think that having a American wife and son would work to Obama's Sr. advantage in having his visa extended. So why he didn't list them on his visa application?
22 posted on 04/30/2011 11:49:51 PM PDT by Ticonderoga34 (Free Obama's Birth Certificate!)
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To: rdcbn

Looks like you answered my question.


23 posted on 04/30/2011 11:57:03 PM PDT by Ticonderoga34 (Free Obama's Birth Certificate!)
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To: Brown Deer

The only time is ‘wife in Honolulu’ was ever mentioned is when he was threatened to losing his immigration visa. It’s telling how hard Harvard worked to getting his sleazy butt shipped back to Africa. However most liberals will now call it racist.

Speaking of which, it makes total sense as to how Obama dealt with how “stupidly” Cambridge police acted...


24 posted on 05/01/2011 12:28:43 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: rdcbn

And yet he didn’t mind knocking up and marrying *other* white women during this time...


25 posted on 05/01/2011 12:30:27 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: rdcbn
Obama could have been arrested and put in jail for this. As a foreign visitor, he almost certainly would have been deported back to Kenya. The documents show that he was de facto deported and his indiscretions with various women were at least part of the reason.

The U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 1878 that plurality of wives (polygamy), as originally permitted by the Mormon religion, violated criminal law and was not defensible as an exercise of religious liberty. All 50 states have statutes against bigamy. In most states, bigamy is a felony.

If a man celebrates his first marriage under the African Christian Marriage and Divorce Act, the Marriage Act or the Hindu Marriage and Divorce Act, he becomes a bigamist -- a criminal -- if he marries another woman or women unless the first marriage is legally dissolved. Section 171 of the Penal Code provides for imprisonment for five years, while Section 42 of the Marriage Act provides for imprisonment "not exceeding five years".

26 posted on 05/01/2011 12:44:41 AM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Art in Idaho

SCOTUS will not be a friend here. 6 of the 9 are Catholics (an unprecedented majority) and prone to accept authority.

The conservatives favor States’ rights, so by Art IV, Sec 1, they will go for orignial intent.

The BC challenge will lose by 8-1.


27 posted on 05/01/2011 1:00:42 AM PDT by saltus (God's Will be done)
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To: Brown Deer

You guys are pissing me off for reasons to follow:

That is not the Long Form Birth Certificate(though it may be a COLB).

It is another walk up document. The original COLB was the type you can purchase and receive the same day.

For 3+ years we have heard from everybody, including a protective media, that there is no other document.

That is the only one Hawaii provides.

Well now they have proven that just isn’t so and validated part of Hawaii Statute 318 in the process.

The document Mubarak proffered this week is one you can request and it normally takes 10 days to receive it.

They are “Data Points” and the document “IS NOT” a copy of the original Long Form Birth Certificate.

I want to see the Birth Certificate he found among his mother’s belongings, the one his mother submitted for his entrance into the school system and the one he used to obtain his passport.

He has all three available to him and in his possession.


28 posted on 05/01/2011 1:30:22 AM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: Brown Deer

Thanks for your post.


29 posted on 05/01/2011 1:31:54 AM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: Brown Deer

Oh, Boy-—one more boo-boo.

Has anybody else decided that Zer0 put out that piece of dog crap just to give America a giant middle finger?


30 posted on 05/01/2011 1:37:28 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: Vendome
I want to see the Birth Certificate he found among his mother’s belongings, the one his mother submitted for his entrance into the school system and the one he used to obtain his passport.

I'd also like to see the one he found back before that book of "Dreams" was written.

I would also like to see the various documents that he used to obtain his various passports (including the forgeries), as well as each of the passports that he obtained from whatever countries he received them from. I would also like to know each of the countries that he has been a citizen of throughout his life and when he relinquished his citizenship from each of those countries.

I would also like to see copies of his social security number applications, school records, transcripts and financial aid documents, because we know for a fact that there is absolutley no record of any student loans on his income tax records.
31 posted on 05/01/2011 1:52:29 AM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: autumnraine
Looks like Stanley hooked a fish extraordinaire with Barack, Senior. What a catch!

Is that a part of Barack, Jr father's dream (or whatever his books are called)? Is Barack, Junior so wanting to destroy America a sublimation of Stanley's and Barack, Junior's abandonment? Somebody (s) surely was hurt greatly when Barack, Senior took a hike away from Stanley and Junior. Somebody(s) probably carried hurt for a long time...and now we are paying for it, IMHO. And yes, my degree(s) in psychiatry are from Sear's...I'm just goofing around at 3:40 a.m. I'm tired so feel free to skip this post!

32 posted on 05/01/2011 1:55:22 AM PDT by hummingbird (Help keep Guam from tilting.)
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To: Art in Idaho

Absolutely!


33 posted on 05/01/2011 1:57:08 AM PDT by hummingbird (Help keep Guam from tilting.)
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To: Brown Deer

Obama’s definition of Natural Born Citizen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJgY86nmEHc&feature=youtu.be


34 posted on 05/01/2011 2:00:59 AM PDT by rambo316
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To: ponygirl

I agree. A foreign father guarantees that Obama can never be “natural born.”


35 posted on 05/01/2011 3:47:27 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain & proud of it: Truly Supporting the Troops means praying for their Victory!)
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To: Scanian

Has anybody else decided that Zer0 put out that piece of dog crap just to give America a giant middle finger?


Yep.


36 posted on 05/01/2011 3:54:08 AM PDT by Stingray (Stand for the truth or you'll fall for anything.)
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To: Art in Idaho

born on U.S. soil

AND

both parents U.S. citizens


It will come down to what the defintion of the word "and" is.

Remember Bill Clinton and the definition of "is".


37 posted on 05/01/2011 3:55:27 AM PDT by fulltlt
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To: hummingbird

Memo from William Ward on page 34 states,

"They have one
child born Honolulu 8/4/1961 -
Barack Obama II, child living with
mother (she lives with her parents & Subject resides
at 1482 Alencastre St)."

Memo is dated 31 AUG 1961


38 posted on 05/01/2011 4:10:18 AM PDT by fulltlt
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To: Yaelle

” I also don’t think Stanley Ann or little Barack meant much to him.”

I’m sure he looked upon little barack as a rabbit turd he couldn’t flush, so he simply ommitted him from legal docuuments.


39 posted on 05/01/2011 4:14:15 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: hattend

Yes...the release of the long form BC and the FOIA information about Obama’s maybe father raises more questions then answers; yet the MSM has already called these questions a dead issue.

Strange.


40 posted on 05/01/2011 4:23:45 AM PDT by kjo
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To: ponygirl

#4, nationally Britsh, but if you vote for 0’bama he’ll buy you 8 gal. of gas.


41 posted on 05/01/2011 4:38:03 AM PDT by Waco (From Seward to Sara)
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To: wastedyears
Ordinarily, I am not a conspiracy theorist, but I am beginning to think the release of this so-called authentic BC has a more sinister purpose. The Obamabots wanted to do something to satisfy those who don't really care about the issue and will take it at face value. This will improve the polling numbers on the issue. At the same time, the obvious problems with the one that was release will only fuel the fire for those of us who have always thought he was hiding something by going to such great lengths to cover up the details of his background.

It puts those of us who are sickened at the thought of someone who is not a NBC no matter where he was born getting away with the fraud that has been perpetrated on this great county in a bit of a quandary. If the SCOTUS and the Congress are unlikely to do anything about the situation, is it better for us to lay low and allow him to continue to fail or give him an issue that he can use to make us look irrational? Freepers, what do you think?

BTW,I have never thought Obama could possibly be the Antichrist because there has never been any indication that he could have been born in what was once the Holy Roman Empire. At the same time, I can not imagine anyone who could better represent the way the Antichrist is depicted - a purely evil, false prophet whose goal is to cause the people to believe a lie.

42 posted on 05/01/2011 4:52:03 AM PDT by srmorton (Deut. 30 19: "..I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing;therefore choose life..")
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To: srmorton

Good post.


43 posted on 05/01/2011 5:19:51 AM PDT by Faith
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To: Brown Deer
"Curiously, on an Aug. 17, 1962, application to extend his visa, Obama Sr. filled in a line asking him to list the names and addresses of children. The only child he listed was Roy Obama, a son from his Kenyan wife, Kezia. At that time, Barack Obama Jr. was 1 year old."

I saw that. Believe it plays into the fact that -- in his mind -- Bobo Sr. was nothing more than Stanley Ann's Baby Daddy (in fact, where's their weddding license? Could be useful); and he could only list Roy on that File for Extension of Time because Bobo Sr had to keep his stories straight per the INS, ie, they were under the impression his wife was in Kenya. Which, she was. And in Hawaii, too.

So the question is, if Bobo Sr. was a bigamist, what does that do for Bobo II's citizenship?

44 posted on 05/01/2011 5:37:44 AM PDT by StAnDeliver ("Are you better off than you were four years ago...?")
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Thanks Brown Deer.
Curiously, on an Aug. 17, 1962, application to extend his visa, Obama Sr. filled in a line asking him to list the names and addresses of children. The only child he listed was Roy Obama, a son from his Kenyan wife, Kezia. At that time, Barack Obama Jr. was 1 year old.

45 posted on 05/01/2011 5:38:38 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: Brown Deer

http://alohareporter.com/2010/03/hawaii-considering-law-to-ignore-obama-birthers/


46 posted on 05/01/2011 5:42:19 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk
From previous link


47 posted on 05/01/2011 5:51:50 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: rdcbn
Hawaii didn't have miscegenation or Jim Crow laws. Hawaii was a state only 8 years before the ironically-named Loving struck down all miscengenation laws. But they had their own long-standing problems with racism (not just talking black-white here) and a de facto caste system among all the immigrants and the islanders.
48 posted on 05/01/2011 5:52:30 AM PDT by StAnDeliver ("Are you better off than you were four years ago...?")
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To: srmorton
Oops! "... the one that was released..."
49 posted on 05/01/2011 6:02:10 AM PDT by srmorton (Deut. 30 19: "..I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing;therefore choose life..")
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To: Brown Deer
It's funny that zerØ's newest release of this new BC, instead of placating his critics, is actually bolstering his critics' arguments.
50 posted on 05/01/2011 6:06:07 AM PDT by fwdude (Prosser wins, Goonions lose.)
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