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Bin Laden Was Found at Luxurious Pakistan Compound
Reuters via CNBC ^ | May 02, 2011 | Reuters

Posted on 05/02/2011 3:14:56 AM PDT by CutePuppy

U.S. forces finally found al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden not in the rugged mountains of Afghanistan's border, but in a million-dollar compound in an upscale suburb of Pakistan's capital, with his youngest wife, U.S. officials said early on Monday.

They were led to the fortress-like three-story building after more than four years tracking one of bin Laden's most trusted couriers, whom U.S. officials said was identified by men captured after the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks.

"Detainees also identified this man as one of the few al Qaeda couriers trusted by bin Laden. They indicated he might be living with or protected by bin Laden," a senior administration official said in a briefing for reporters.

Bin Laden was finally found - more than 9-1/2 years after the 2001 attacks on the United States - after authorities discovered in August 2010 that the courier lived with his brother and their families in an unusual and extremely high-security building, officials said.

"When we saw the compound where the brothers lived, we were shocked by what we saw: an extraordinarily unique compound," a senior administration official said.

"The bottom line of our collection and our analysis was that we had high confidence that the compound harbored a high-value terrorist target. The experts who worked this issue for years assessed that there was a strong probability that the terrorist who was hiding there was Osama bin Laden," another administration official said.

The home is in Abbotabad, a town about 35 miles (60 km) north of Islamabad, that is relatively affluent and home to many retired members of Pakistan's military.

The building, about eight times the size of other nearby houses, sat on a large plot of land that was relatively secluded when it was built in 2005.

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Op details: It took 4 years of tracking (started under Bush) a suspected trained courier, who was identified by interrogated terrorists (or "persons of interest") captured in post-9/11 military and intelligence operations. Finally they connected the dots to the unusual newly built fortress-like building.

Great job by JSOC, but unfortunately doesn't do much for the WOT, now being fueled in the MEA through inaction in the name of "democracy" (when it's convenient) or plain 180-degree-wrong bull-headed actions (in the name of "humanitarian efforts") by "Chief Leader from Behind".

1 posted on 05/02/2011 3:15:08 AM PDT by CutePuppy
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To: CutePuppy

I am surprised OBL didn’t escape through a tunnel.

That would be my biggest concern going in.

Those people tunnel like crazy.


2 posted on 05/02/2011 3:19:16 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (How is allowing an Army Doctor be prosecuted and sent to prison "good for the country"?)
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To: CutePuppy

Detainees at Gitmo gave this information?

Wow, proof that Waterboarding actually works! Or maybe they just turned on a 24-hour long tape of Hillary speeches and cackles.


3 posted on 05/02/2011 3:21:52 AM PDT by parksstp (Articulate Conservatives look for Converts. RINO's look for Democrat Heretics.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

That’s the reason why it took HUMINT and not just SIGINT and Predators/G-Hawks with missiles. HUMINT also was decisive in capturing Saddam in Iraq.


4 posted on 05/02/2011 3:23:59 AM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: CutePuppy

Bump.


5 posted on 05/02/2011 3:24:14 AM PDT by Jaxter ("Pro Aris et Focis")
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To: CutePuppy

Dirka, Dirka Boys!

6 posted on 05/02/2011 3:31:00 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: CutePuppy

And what did we do to Afghanistan for harboring him?


7 posted on 05/02/2011 3:33:14 AM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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To: CutePuppy

PISSED me off to hear we “treated the body under full Islamic custom” and “buried him at sea”. Hope that means the Seals pissed on his corpse and they tossed him over the fantail with the rest of the trash....


8 posted on 05/02/2011 3:35:28 AM PDT by Kozak ("It's not an Election it's a Restraining Order" .....PJ O'Rourke)
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To: CutePuppy

OBL hasn’t been seen for years and all of a sudden he exposes himself in in a high profile compound and then is quickly buried at sea? Something doesn’t smell right in Denmark.


9 posted on 05/02/2011 3:43:12 AM PDT by Defend Liberty
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To: Kozak
“treated the body under full Islamic custom”

Like we believe that this will convince them that we're not bad people after all.
What it really shows them is that we are afraid of them.

10 posted on 05/02/2011 3:49:16 AM PDT by Falcon4.0
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To: Defend Liberty; All
OBL hasn't been seen for years and all of a sudden he exposes himself in in a high profile compound and then is quickly buried at sea? Something doesn't smell right in Denmark.

Hopefully, it's all video-recorded.

From Pakistan was not told about bin Laden operation - AFP, 2011 May 02


11 posted on 05/02/2011 3:52:55 AM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: CutePuppy

I sincerely hope that Elvis and Amelia weren’t hurt in the attack...


12 posted on 05/02/2011 3:55:23 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Kozak

Buried at sea? Who made the decision to do that and why? That really ticks me off!


13 posted on 05/02/2011 4:00:32 AM PDT by RoseyT
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To: Defend Liberty
"Something doesn’t smell right in Denmark."

Yep..smells like old rancid road kill my dog buried in the yard for later.

14 posted on 05/02/2011 4:06:23 AM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: CutePuppy
In the last few years I have heard the allegation more than once that the Saudis were paying Pakistan to protect Bin Laden and to limit his activities. Allegedly U.S. authorities knew Bin Laden’s location but were hesitant to act against him because of the diplomatic consequences.
15 posted on 05/02/2011 4:12:36 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: CutePuppy

They had to have told Pakistan they were doing SOMETHING. But they didn’t have to mention Bin Laden.

I would think the decision of what to do with the body is something they discussed & planned a long time ago.


16 posted on 05/02/2011 4:16:58 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: RoseyT

Our Government did it to prevent his family from burying him and creating a shrine around the burial site. (Fox is reporting this)

OBL’s oldest and closest brother already is making demands that government turn OBL’s body over to them so that “he can be buried with his own”. (this was on CNN this morning)


17 posted on 05/02/2011 4:20:39 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: stlnative

that THE government (sorry... been up all night)


18 posted on 05/02/2011 4:22:23 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: Brad from Tennessee

There are many rich Saudis, including some princes, who might have supported bin Laden financially, but the “official” Saudi government had no love lost for Osama (who for a long time wanted and called for overthrow of Saudi regime).

It’s tough to really “know bin Laden’s location” when he was often on the move and often warned by ISI when suspicions arose about his location getting “hot” on the intelligence radar. That’s why discovering and tracking courier(s) would be the best way to discover new location.

Whoever was killed there at the time of this attack didn’t get the advanced notice.


19 posted on 05/02/2011 4:28:01 AM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: CutePuppy
Check the logs.

How many times had Osama visited Obama at the White House?

Ted Kennedy had the following comment:

Obama

20 posted on 05/02/2011 4:29:32 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: CutePuppy

If you will recall, the official position for any high level kills was that the body would be prominently photographed and the body put on display so that the bad guy’s followers and the common people would be able to see that the bad guy was dead and would never bother them again. Only after this would the body be disposed of.
They did this with Saddam’s sons and torture buddies; they did this with al-Zarkawi, why not Osama?
This is too convenient, and, comes at a time that Obama needs a boost in the polls to deflect the birthers, the economy and the daily sky rocketing oil prices.
Give me a break. Buried at sea? And before the official announcement? This just reeks of HOAX.


21 posted on 05/02/2011 4:32:34 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Obama did not learn incompetence; he was born to it.)
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To: stlnative; nuconvert

What did they do with the other bodies? Buried them at sea or left in the compound for more “traditional” Islamic burial?


22 posted on 05/02/2011 4:34:01 AM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

no reason to tunnel, no reason to hide. He was enjoying the protection of the Paki military. The guy was probably sitting in the open air markets, drinking tea and nailing goats in the keister in plain sight of the military establishment.

Our war is not with him, it’s with Islam. When are we going to wake up?


23 posted on 05/02/2011 4:34:16 AM PDT by newnhdad (The longest of journeys begins with one step.)
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To: Defend Liberty

Okay, good, I am not the only one who thinks this stinks.

We supposedly kill the spiritual leader of a terrorist group, a man who is supposedly over 6 feet tall and on some form of dialysis in a firefight with 6 Navy Seals? And then they supposedly confirm his ID through DNA sampling (where did they get the comparative samples?), then dump his body in the ocean?

I am sorry, but the US Military customarily shows proof of HVT kills through video or imagery. Saddam, and esp. his sons were shown on international TV through pictures and videos. Khalid Sheik Mohammad was dogged-and-ponied around the news outlets in his nasty stained shirt. But the biggest terrorist leader in the world is just dumped overboard, and we are supposed to believe that?

If Osama comes out in a video/audio tape in the next couple of days, I am going to literally laugh until I pee myself. I do not believe a damn thing this administration does, and I think this is a feint on their part.


24 posted on 05/02/2011 4:34:35 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: BuffaloJack

Yes, Uday Husssein and Qusay Hussein and al-Zarkawi were on prominent photo-display despite fake “outrage” from the press and Islamic “community”.

This handling may open bigger can of worms than LFBC, unless it’s well documented.


25 posted on 05/02/2011 4:40:36 AM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: CutePuppy

Hopefully they were left there as proof that they did get bin Laden.


26 posted on 05/02/2011 4:42:08 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: RoseyT
Buried at sea? Who made the decision to do that and why? The regime decided it would be just "too difficult" to find any country to take the body. By Islamic custom he had to be buried within 24 hrs and that was the directive.

Islam allows burials at sea in select circumstances including if there's risk an enemy may dig the body up.

That really ticks me off!

I'm sure you're not alone! We'll only have the regime's "so say." Imagine if this had been under W's watch. No one on the Left or press would accept that.

27 posted on 05/02/2011 4:42:59 AM PDT by newzjunkey (We will not tire. We will not falter. We will not fail. - W, 9/20/01)
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To: CutePuppy

“but unfortunately doesn’t do much for the WOT....”

I disagree. Terrorist organizations require paymasters, planners and operational leaders among others to carry out attacks. OBL was not only a Saudi paymaster but also a planning and operations leader. His removal is tremendously significant.


28 posted on 05/02/2011 4:43:17 AM PDT by Justa
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To: rarestia

6 seals? Not likely. I think you are very confused. Google Seal Team 6.


29 posted on 05/02/2011 4:46:21 AM PDT by ironman
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To: rarestia
I'd heard we have DNA samples from a deceased sister. There's no way they confirmed his DNA in a matter of hours. It's just not possible in the real world.

An Al Queda spokesman says Osama "will be avenged" although WA Times didn't ID who this was and whether they were confirming Obama's story.

30 posted on 05/02/2011 4:48:53 AM PDT by newzjunkey (We will not tire. We will not falter. We will not fail. - W, 9/20/01)
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To: ironman

My local news outlets are reporting 6 Seals. I know all about Seal Team 6, and that makes a lot more sense.


31 posted on 05/02/2011 4:49:03 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
Saudis were paying Pakistan to protect Bin Laden

If true (it seems reasonable that some important Saudis may have helped him), the recent uprisings in the Arab world cannot be a coincidence in regards to diming out Bin Laden, at this point in time.

32 posted on 05/02/2011 4:51:04 AM PDT by neocon1984
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To: BuffaloJack

“They did this with Saddam’s sons and torture buddies; they did this with al-Zarkawi, why not Osama?”

It’s all about jurisdiction over the body. The Iraqi government had jurisdiction over bodies killed in Iraq and did as they chose with them. OBL’s body was technically the jurisdiction of Saudi Arabia and Pakistan. Dumping the body before notification of the death removes all diplomatic obligations to those nations.

It’s that old diplomatic phrase: diplomacy first; when all else fails use force. It’s what makes diplomacy legitimate.


33 posted on 05/02/2011 4:55:37 AM PDT by Justa
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To: newzjunkey

I will gladly shut my mouth as soon as they show us photos of his body and 100% confirmation that the DNA collected is his. I’d also like to hear from an actual military officer about it.

This has been the Obama Show up to this point. “I, me, my...” from The One. Credit where credit is due if all of this pans out to be true, but I’m going to remain skeptical.


34 posted on 05/02/2011 4:56:00 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Kozak

I guarantee the SEALs shoved some pork into his mouth.

He should have gone down sewn inside a pigskin.


35 posted on 05/02/2011 5:06:20 AM PDT by Travis McGee ("Castigo Cay" will be out in a few weeks.)
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To: CutePuppy

Who pays for million dollar compounds?


36 posted on 05/02/2011 5:06:20 AM PDT by RoadTest (Organized religion is no substitute for the relationship the living God wants with you.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

“Those people tunnel like crazy.”

Mexicans do, too.


37 posted on 05/02/2011 5:07:12 AM PDT by RoadTest (Organized religion is no substitute for the relationship the living God wants with you.)
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To: Justa
Terrorist organizations require paymasters, planners and operational leaders among others to carry out attacks. OBL was not only a Saudi paymaster but also a planning and operations leader.

Paymaster and planner / "organizer" in the beginning, certainly. Lately, more likely, none of the above.

Most of the al-Qaeda operations and recruitment has been shifted to Iraq, where 90% or more of al-Qaeda met with dismal fate of martyrdom (unless 72 virgins changes the qualification of the outcome for them).

There even has been a lot of talk about the strife between aQI and al-Qaeda leaders about the future of al-Qaeda organization and leadership before the "surge" in Iraq.

Osama would have been on the run most of the time since the Afghanistan campaign and the fallout of al-Qaeda and Taliban - that doesn't a planning and operational leader make.

For all the talk by liberals of the "military adventures in Iraq" being a "recruiting tool" for al-Qaeda, they are now awfully silent and unconcerned about more recent events in Africa and ME (and particularly, idiotic involvement in war in Libya) fueled by Obama's destabilizing "foreign policy" in the region.

38 posted on 05/02/2011 5:17:03 AM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: RoadTest
Who pays for million dollar compounds?

People who have the money to do so. Ever heard of Kennedys?

39 posted on 05/02/2011 5:18:51 AM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Vermin do that


40 posted on 05/02/2011 5:19:18 AM PDT by Shimmer1 (Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit; Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.)
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To: CutePuppy

Wonder if they blew that luxury compound to smithereens? If they didn’t, they should. It was probably built with the money we give to Pakistan. We seriously need to stop this overseas ad. The money is never used for what it’s suppose to be used for and the dictators and despots always end up getting fat and rich off our tax dollars.


41 posted on 05/02/2011 5:22:34 AM PDT by MsLady (Be the kind of woman that when you get up in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: CutePuppy

OBL was supporting Taliban operations in Afghanistan. His demise will cripple their operations. No pay = no IEDs. It will be similar to the effect of the removal of the Iranian paymasters in Iraq in December 2006 (aka The Surge).

The Taliban will only have the ISI to support them, with dubious funding. The focus should be upon Pakistan and the ISI for sheltering him. They will of course plead ignorance but it should buy us some quiet time in Afghanistan once current Taliban operations wind down.


42 posted on 05/02/2011 5:29:11 AM PDT by Justa
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To: CutePuppy

Fox news just got more info from the Pentagon.
The only body they took was OBL’s, they left the other bodies at the compound.
There was about 12 other family members at the compound. (that was not killed) - They were marched into a field while our military lit our crashed helicopter on fire. (it went down inside the complex walls and that is what you see on fire in the GEO video that the media is showing)
Pakistan forces showed up before out military left and it is believed that the remaining living people at the compound were taken into custody by the Paki’s.

Saudi’s were offered OBL’s body but they refused it. OBL was buried at sea at 2:00am eastern time on May 2, 2011


43 posted on 05/02/2011 5:29:25 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: Kozak

You know what I want to see, is the body prepared for burial by the naval cooks,following a long held tradition of wrapping the body in bacon before burial. Then image of a splash and 3-4 slices of bacon floating to the top of the water. THAT would be the best.


44 posted on 05/02/2011 5:33:45 AM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: CutePuppy

“For all the talk by liberals of the “military adventures in Iraq” being a “recruiting tool” for al-Qaeda, they are now awfully silent...”

I base neither my information nor my reasoning upon liberal information sources. I have no idea what you are talking about. No offense intended but I am very grateful for that.


45 posted on 05/02/2011 5:34:42 AM PDT by Justa
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To: neocon1984

The “Arab/Pakistani street exploding” is a myth for most parts. It didn’t happen after the wars started in Afghanistan, Iraq or Cast Lead. It won’t start now.


46 posted on 05/02/2011 5:36:48 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: Justa

Actually not, Those operations are well funded by the opium trade. OB was increasingly irrelevant to the Taliban’s operations.


47 posted on 05/02/2011 5:38:02 AM PDT by the Real fifi
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To: Justa

Actually not, Those operations are well funded by the opium trade. OBL was increasingly irrelevant to the Taliban’s operations.


48 posted on 05/02/2011 5:38:15 AM PDT by the Real fifi
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To: Justa

8 times larger than the other houses, a wall that was over 17 meters high, owned by unemployed persons. Yeah think it was a cover up.


49 posted on 05/02/2011 5:38:31 AM PDT by scooby321
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To: newzjunkey

As I recall, OBL was the single child of a Syrian mother married to OBL’s father. If mother and father are dead, wouldn’t a DNA sample show a general match with members of the huge Bin Laden family but still be unspecific?


50 posted on 05/02/2011 5:42:24 AM PDT by Melchior
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