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Tickerguy Flips A-A [A-A-K-x-x Board] (Birth Certificate)
The Market Ticker ^ | May 2, 2011 | Karl Denninger

Posted on 05/02/2011 11:01:22 AM PDT by kiryandil

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To: Jeff Winston
Thanks. As I said, maybe the media outlets and Democrat pols were just laying the groundwork for what they expected would be an embarrassment, or they knew or were told something more specific. Who knows?

i know that some believe that Obama was born in Hawaii but that Frank Marshall Davis was the real father. Nothing short of a reliable DNA test would resolve that question - if in fact it is a question - but I would bet a year's salary that such a test would never, ever take place.

So again, I think there are more questions to be answered, but politically I am personally more focused on policies and stopping Obama’s dismantling of the country so many worked and died for. We'll just have to see what else comes up on these issues, as we educate the public on the problems with Obama’s policies and work to get a good candidate to defeat him.

Just one more thing: I do believe that the Founders intended the term “natural born citizen” to mean a person born to citizen parents (excepting those born before the US existed as an independent nation, of course). But our “leaders” in both parties glossed over this, intentionally or otherwise. I wonder if the Democrats will bring it up if a Republican with one citizen parent gets hot in the polls. Maybe then a paternity for Obama more “convenient” to that situation would arise, and be pushed by the media. Who knows? After Clinton escaped conviction after impeachment, anything is possible. Oops, I have gone on too long again.

141 posted on 05/03/2011 7:09:48 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: cvq3842
First, whatever happened to the story of Abercrombie not being able to find the original, and references by journalists and others friendly to Obama to there being “embarrassing” information on the document that Obama should not be forced to release?

As for Abercrombie, I think he ran into legal roadblocks he should have known about before opening his mouth. Also, nobody who has actually seen the document has said it contained anything "embarrassing," so I'm not sure what you mean by that.

142 posted on 05/03/2011 8:47:43 AM PDT by Kleon
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To: Kleon

Thanks. I remember reading accounts about the “embarrassing” aspect, but a quick search didn’t turn up what I was looking for and after about two minutes I gave up. Maybe I will pick this back up another day . . .


143 posted on 05/03/2011 8:52:47 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: bgill
I’m also wondering about the hammers. It’s possible that some were bent closer to the next letter.

Bingo. Which one in particular?

144 posted on 05/03/2011 11:32:15 AM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: cvq3842
maybe the media outlets and Democrat pols were just laying the groundwork for what they expected would be an embarrassment, or they knew or were told something more specific. Who knows?

In my own mind, I really have no question that some in the media have ridiculed and dismissed eligibility skeptics because they did not themselves have confidence that their man was in fact eligible, and wanted to quietly sweep the issue under the rug.

So again, I think there are more questions to be answered, but politically I am personally more focused on policies and stopping Obama’s dismantling of the country so many worked and died for. We'll just have to see what else comes up on these issues, as we educate the public on the problems with Obama’s policies and work to get a good candidate to defeat him.

If you are doing that, you are doing the right thing.

Just one more thing: I do believe that the Founders intended the term “natural born citizen” to mean a person born to citizen parents (excepting those born before the US existed as an independent nation, of course).

Yes, but unfortunately they failed to make what they wanted abundantly clear and to clearly codify it into the law.

After Clinton escaped conviction after impeachment, anything is possible.

Clinton publicly demonstrated that contempt for the law could be a winning strategy. We are still reaping the consequences of that disgraceful man's actions.

145 posted on 05/03/2011 11:49:44 AM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: Jeff Winston

Thanks!


146 posted on 05/03/2011 12:42:10 PM PDT by cvq3842
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To: kiryandil
Another observation from a blog link

....When one examines the signatures on the Obama abstract, why is it that instead of the 1961 era black ink business pen in a thin crisp signature, that instead the signatures are velvet smooth and wide like a felt tip pen of a much later date...........as those pens and ink structure gels did not appear until Obama was smoking dope.

It is not the same font, but the same pen which is questionable on three different signatures and

147 posted on 05/03/2011 1:15:38 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: ClearCase_guy

I think you are right in that this fraud, like the JFK assassination (killed by a lone nut assassin, who in turn was killed by a lone nut assassin) is likely to become accepted “truth”. The alternative in both cases is very painful. LBJ, Mafia, CIA, etc...likely involved in the first...the White House and MSM in the second.

Still...Let’s fight for the truth. With the right breaks this could open up...and The One will be history. Though, not likely. The country is at stake.


148 posted on 05/03/2011 1:32:55 PM PDT by kjo
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To: Tex-Con-Man

“free lap dances...”

Wait a second... Is this how we found out that Buckeye Texan is a gal?


149 posted on 05/04/2011 10:15:57 AM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: bgill

...Ok, let’s see if I understand you. So, say the sheriff’s favorite nephew was out driving drunk and wrecked, killing your brother. Well, knowing the cops and the judge are all crooked, it’s rather pointless demanding justice be served. Is that about it in a nutshell?.....

Maybe Seal team six had the targets name Osama misspelled?
We are near vigilante justice and anarchy because the system has failed us -has it failed on purpose and what is that purpose?


150 posted on 05/04/2011 10:21:42 AM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: El Sordo

The first rule of Sanity Squad is...


151 posted on 05/04/2011 10:44:49 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: Tex-Con-Man

Never whine about your medical problems on cigar night?


152 posted on 05/04/2011 10:56:39 AM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: Tex-Con-Man

“The first rule of Sanity Squad is...”

The first rule of Sanity Squad.


153 posted on 05/04/2011 10:58:36 AM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: Tex-Con-Man

No shoes, no shirt, no service?


154 posted on 05/04/2011 10:59:05 AM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: Tex-Con-Man

Look both ways before posting?


155 posted on 05/04/2011 10:59:25 AM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: Tex-Con-Man

When in doubt, mock birthers?


156 posted on 05/04/2011 10:59:58 AM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: Tex-Con-Man

Close the door, no one wants to see that?


157 posted on 05/04/2011 11:00:20 AM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: Tex-Con-Man

You break it, you bought it?


158 posted on 05/04/2011 11:02:53 AM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: Tex-Con-Man

Always talk too much about Sanity Squad?


159 posted on 05/04/2011 11:12:07 AM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: El Sordo
They are taking state certified documents with a long legal pedigree and custody trail and trying every stupid thing they can think of to claim that they are false. With many falling back on the argument that these documents have never been “proven true”.

1. Certified Documents? There is no evidence of an official seal on the PDF. In the old days, one usually took a lead pencil and ran the side of the lead over the raised seal so that it would be visible to be able to copy.

2. Custody trail? A PDF document on the Internet has no custody trail. The original document has never (as far as I have read) been made available for inspection.

3. Never proven true? I think that his first short form COLB and this long form COLB have both been proven as fakes. I haven't heard the administration explain any of the anomalies on either document (PDF) so questions of their authenticity still stand.

4. Pedigree? Why can't anyone find other examples of either document (PDF) that look exactly the same as the president's?

5. All our president had to do was to direct the Hawaii Dept. of Health to send certified copies to several news organizations. The issue would have died then and there. But it is obvious the president doesn't want this to go away for some reason. You would think with the CIA and FBI, etc. at his disposal, he could have at least come up with an authentic looking COLB.

160 posted on 05/04/2011 12:02:13 PM PDT by A. Patriot (CZ 52's ROCK)
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