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What Is The Best Place To Live In The United States To Prepare For The Coming Economic Collapse?
TEC ^ | 5-2-2011

Posted on 05/02/2011 7:25:30 PM PDT by blam

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To: blam

Like most idiots, he thinks Hawaii is one island. It is true 80% of the population live on one island, but we keep the other islands and sparse population a secret. And that 80% is not going to swim to the neighbor islands in a breakdown, they will be like NYC, riot, loot, and eat each other.


101 posted on 05/02/2011 9:32:59 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: Raebie
This author is geographically challenged.

I noticed that, too. North and South Dakota (and Eastern Montana) are typically referred to as the "Northern Plains", not the 'Upper Midwest'. We're a long way from the 'rust belt'. They even left Minnesota somewhere in limbo.

102 posted on 05/02/2011 9:37:57 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: blam

Hands down it is Alaska. We will develop our natural resources and can grow our own food. There is also a lot of hunting and fishing to be had. The author is clueless.


103 posted on 05/02/2011 9:38:03 PM PDT by vpintheak (Democrats: Robbing humans of their dignity 1 law at a time)
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To: American Constitutionalist

concrete.

http://www.coolthings.com/safe-house-transforms-into-a-giant-concrete-box/


104 posted on 05/02/2011 9:38:20 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Hey Bungholious, It would be a cold day in hell when I’d leave California for Texas! I once turned down a “promotion” to go run a plant in Graham, Texas. You know, the “Gateway to the Possum Kingdom Reservoir.” So humid your eyeglasses fogged up like a beer bottle when you went outdoors. Golfball sized hail to screw up your car ( and your air conditioner if it was on the roof of your house). The women were good looking and the men were all fat. I was told that it was because the women were hoping to kill their men with their cooking so they could marry a younger one! And to cap it off, it was a “dry county,” which meant that each year a couple of high school students were killed driving drunk on their way back from Jacksboro ( in a “wet” county). And that’s how the bulk of Texas is. It isn’t Houston or DFW, it’s dumbass country. So lighten up on California. Yeah we have illegals, but so do you. But we have Carmel-by-the-sea, Lake Tahoe, Big Sur, beaches and mountains. You have poke salad and cow shit! Give me a break!!!


105 posted on 05/02/2011 9:50:13 PM PDT by vette6387 (Enough Already!)
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To: TheWriterTX
I was over in the Red River Gorge area of Eastern Kentucky a few weeks ago (and plan on another trip Wednesday if the rain holds off) and it has quite a bit of potential as a bug out spot. The Clifty Wilderness Area is over 12,000 acres that is rarely ventured into, yet it is just a few miles from the Mountain Parkway (lots of good spots to dump your vehicle if needed), the Red River runs by it (lots of excellent fishing), and there is an abundance of caves and overhangs that would offer shelter.

About the only major drawback is the relatively large black bear population in the area. The husband of one of my sister's coworkers was attacked by one last June and was fortunate that other bikers were able to beat it off of him.

106 posted on 05/02/2011 9:51:18 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (Democrats: "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.")
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To: Christian Engineer Mass
"Is it really a great idea to be so far from anyone?"

I think it would be better to live in smaller towns or at least with good neighbors within walking distance...

.I can't imagine how it would feel to be way out in the "safe" sticks and have a maurading gang attack your home....you can't be on guard 24/7 and people need FRIENDS......

107 posted on 05/02/2011 9:53:21 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Raebie
And what does living near a fault line have to do with an ‘economic collapse?

In a severe economic collapse, in the even of any natural disaster, there will be few funds to bring in supplies, help, policing, support of any kind. So, for that reason alone, it would be a good idea to not live right on a major fault line if one could help it.

108 posted on 05/02/2011 9:54:15 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: coloradan

Spoken like a true Geographer! I moved to Michigan from Florida to be closer to family. Housing is very affordable due to all the foreclosures and lack of jobs. That all said, if you are employable, and like four seasons, southwest Michigan is pretty darn nice...and then you can go on weekend outings up north where it is even prettier.


109 posted on 05/02/2011 9:57:00 PM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: vpintheak
We live along the upper Yukon, 4 miles from Canada border. Usually get a moose, always get as many caribou and salmon as we ever need. Grow most of our vegetables, putting in 300 lb yukon golds in 2 weeks. We've always had 3-5 year food supply but could get fat living subsistence if needed to.

Biggest thing is my costs are way down. NO TAXES at all, not even property taxes here, unorganized borough, no real govt or cops or regulations, permits, zoning, or comp planning, or cell towers, or places to spend all the money you won't have at. Cheapest place I have ever found and also gold in most our creeks. ounce a day with small dredge is average.

It's not how much you make, its how much you spend that matters.

I luv rural Alaska for it's freedom, space, and miles upon miles of open country without any people or congestion. I couldn't ever live back east in west Pa where I came from ever again. Heck I was spring duck hunting tonight, ducks by the hundreds. People live with the seasons up here and minus 60 is a small price to pay for peace of mind & happiness. Ring of fire? THis guy doesn't have a clue, more worried about big burns 30X40 miles across.

110 posted on 05/02/2011 10:06:47 PM PDT by Eska
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To: Max_850
The best location to live at during an economic collapse is Detroit, hands down.

Most likely you would never know the difference when it happens.

Here's another out-of-the-box suggestion: Washington, D.C. I know there's a large inner city presence, but if TSHTF you'd be living with a lot of scared liberals who - unlike many liberals - will have to live with the consequences of a bankrupt government. Right on their doorstep.

You think liberals can't be bellicose? Have a good hard look at World Wars 1 and 2. Poke around for who were pegged as the 'domestic terrorists' back then.

Frightened liberals, en masse, can become pretty authoritarian pretty quickly - especially if the frights they normally pander to hit them in their own homes. I'm pretty sure that D.C. would be very well protected during an economic collapse. The prospect of a government stripped of all of its power would frighten liberals into demanding authoritarian measures as a "practical" or "temporary" measure. They're that dependent upon government.

The downside to living in D.C., should TSHTF, would be having to live under martial law for a time. Also, the gun grabbers would be out in force and demanding total confiscation for "public safety" reasons. Given that downside, I have to admit that the above is largely rhetorical for FReepers.

While I'm advocatus diaboliing, the plush part any large city with a politically powerful upper class - the kind who consider widespread rioting in their neck of the woods to be an intolerable outrage, and have the political clout to get action - would be liveable. New York, although basically unaffordable, might make out fine except for known trouble spots. The feral yutes will effectively be sequestered in those areas. So, obviously, the cheap areas should be avoided like the plague.

The biggest downside in those big cities otherwise protected would be having to endure liberal authoritarianism. The other answers on this thread, I'm sure, work better as freedom choices. There won't be any "your liberty or your life" squeezes in those parts.

111 posted on 05/02/2011 10:18:54 PM PDT by danielmryan
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To: blam
Florida is generally not going to be a place that you want to be during an economic collapse. The housing market has absolutely collapsed down there and the crime rate is already very high. It is also very densely populated.

These generalities might apply to the big cities...but a lot of the state is rural,agricultural and eminently survivable when the crunch comes.

I live in rural North Central Florida and we will weather any coming economic crises quite well thank you.

You can drive for miles here and see more cattle than people.

112 posted on 05/02/2011 10:23:13 PM PDT by oldsalt (There's no such thing as a free lunch.)
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To: Christian Engineer Mass

Been there, done that. First, MA will tax you, since you’re earning money there. The out-of-state tax is unnecessarily complex. Also, the commute is difficult. Most of the jobs in MA are down in and around the Boston area, and there are really only two major highways going from NH to Boston. One is Rt 3, which was widened a few years ago, but in good weather, it’s still a good hour drive to get to the NH border in rush hour traffic; in a snowstorm, that can go as high as 4 hours (as me how I know). And then, the only real city up RT 3 is Nashua, which is nice enough, but not really “in the country”. I-93 is the other route, and will take you to Manchester in about the same amount of time, but again, not a great place to live come the collapse. To really get away from the disaster, you need to live someplace like New Boston, Mont Vernon, Goffstown, and others. And living there adds another 20-30 minutes to the commute, not including delays for weather. The roads outside the cities are also very old, and often not cleared well.

There are plenty of places further north that have that small-town charm, but you pay the price in commute distance and lack of amenities like hospitals, grocery stores, schools etc.


113 posted on 05/02/2011 10:25:48 PM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: vette6387
"Hey Bungholious, It would be a cold day in hell when I’d leave California for Texas! I once turned down a “promotion” to go run a plant in Graham, Texas."

I know Texans well enough to know that they don't miss your classless ass in Texas.
You don't have the IQ to have a decent conversation with strangers on the internet much less 'run a plant.'

Inviting you was definately a mistake. Run along now.

114 posted on 05/02/2011 10:59:13 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

If you are looking for a place with no earthquake problems, no tornadoes, no floods, no hurricanes, etc. you might as well resign yourself to waiting for heaven. There will always be strife, natural disasters, and trouble in this world. It doesn’t matter where you go. Trust in the Lord and find a place that gives you a sense of contentment. For me, that is where my kids and grandchildren are. I will deal with future disasters when and if they happens. Everyone seems to want to go around scared all the time of what might be. It’s not in our hands. As the Bible says, there is enough trouble today, worrying about the future is pointless.


115 posted on 05/02/2011 11:10:26 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX
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To: Zakeet
Avoid country living - home invasions and robberies are too easy to pull off and will take place.

Difference between country living in Argentina and the USA ? Argentina - only the criminals have guns Rural America - more guns than criminals and we know how to use them . Rural areas with great gun laws rarely have problems .
116 posted on 05/03/2011 12:25:37 AM PDT by Lera
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To: Travis McGee

Ha! I know where you are, so kill me! lol I’d be there in a heartbeat if I could.

Love your tagline. It appears that your brethren have done just that.

Good job, and press on!


117 posted on 05/03/2011 12:30:59 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Age, skill, wisdom, and a little treachery always overcome youth and arrogance!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Bump dat!


118 posted on 05/03/2011 12:31:36 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Age, skill, wisdom, and a little treachery always overcome youth and arrogance!)
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To: LeoWindhorse

How are politics in Hawaii? It is almost all Democrats. Are they fascist anti-freedom Democrats? Easy-going stoner Democrats? Retro Democrats who think they are still voting for JFK? Greenie brainwashed Democrats? Or what?


119 posted on 05/03/2011 12:38:08 AM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (Don't nuke me, bro)
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To: UnwashedPeasant

Easy-going stoner Democrats? Retro Democrats who think they are still voting for JFK?

Combination of.....
The real core group , Americans of Japanese ancestry , with strong multi Union ties , formed up the Dem Party in the wake of their great and famous achievements during WW2 . They came home , they made big families and ALL still remain staunch Dem , no matter what else happens . They are still reacting to the evil white R power holders that controlled their lives prior to WW2 . Now that they basically own the entire State Gov , they ain’t letting go


120 posted on 05/03/2011 12:47:59 AM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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