Posted on 05/02/2011 7:25:30 PM PDT by blam
Why? You can already begin to see why from what is happening both here and in Europe.
-Corrupt socialist/communist governments who think nothing of robbing you to keep the gravy train going for them and their union thugs.
-Large populations living off of entitlements. When the money runs out they will go all "NOLA after Katrina". These people have never produced anything and they have never worked a day in their lives. The only way they know of housing/feeding and clothing themselves is to steal it from others-either through 'entitlements' or outright stealing it. This also includes places where there are lots of "academics" and "professional students"-they are some of the biggest pigs at the trough.
-Unionized government workers including police/fire. Look at what happened in Wisconsin for just a taste of the kind of crap they will pull. Wisconsin showed us that it is a very small step for the police to go from "to protect and serve" to violence, extortion and corruption.
-Laws that severely restrict the ownership of firearms and their use as a method of self defense.
I would also try to be at least 100 miles from the nearest city of over 100,000. Why? The vast majority of people in the US keep about enough gas in their cars to go 100 miles. Plus the attrition rate on the "golden horde" (via getting shot looting, breaking through roadblocks, etc.) will take out the vast majority of them before they go 100 miles.
History teaches that when the economy dies, civilization dies. Civilization will survive there long after it is only a memory written in the ruins of the great secular cities and countries. Learn a lesson from the fall of the Roman Empire. When it died, so did trade. Roads and laws were not maintained thus it became impossible to obtain goods and services that were not locally based.
Look for states with strong governments with a general population that is self sufficient and strong then look for places with strong communities and churches within those states. Look for places where most basic goods are locally (or in state) produced. When the economy goes the US goes.The feds (like the Romans) will try to keep control but will not have the manpower nor the wherewithal to do so, they will fall like a termite riddled house. The country will fracture into smaller units (individual states or regional unions). If I had to choose a region or two I would choose Texas, Oklahoma, the Dakotas, eastern Montana (too many Californians and other 'bleu staters' in the western part), Utah except for the Wasatch front (too many Californians and other 'bleu staters' there), Alabama, Oklahoma, Alaska (except for Anchorage and Juneau). Almost all of the places I have mentioned have infestations of Californians and other 'bleu staters' but it should not be too difficult to seperate the wheat from the chaff so to speak and send the chaff down the road back to where they came from. If TSHTF the illegals would self deport in droves-when the host runs out of blood the ticks fall off.
Mexico looks real safe
Yep and Texas also. Good!
Oh, I sleep just fine!
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Whatever you do stay away from South Carolina. Wages are as low as Bill Clinton’s credibility, taxes are as high as Obama’s ego, the alligators would frighten Troy Landry, the cottonmouths are exceeded in size only by the diamondbacks, the ticks are thicker than wheat in Kansas, the average IQ is even lower than the wages. The banjo boy from Deliverance moved here because it seemed like home. The fire ants are being recruited by the Jihadists who have a training camp in York County. The coyotes are killing off the deer and the wild hogs rooting up the nut grass leave holes big enough to lose a Jeep in. The Flathead catfish have eaten up most of the game fish and grown so large they are said to be turning into maneaters. Don’t believe all you have heard about how conservative the state is, that is on average and since most of us conservatives consider Rush Limbaugh to be a socialist the liberals think Obama is a right winger. Charleston has fewer fruits but more nuts than San Francisco. In short there is no place fit to live in this state except for one little half acre lot somewhere in the hills and I have lost my directions to it. Your chances of being happy here are slim and none and Slim just joined the Marines and is headed to Afghanistan.
On the other hand if you are the type to crave a good fight on Saturday night you might like some parts of the state.
THX THX.
“Look for states with strong governments with a general population that is self sufficient and strong then look for places with strong communities and churches within those states.”
An eminently wise choice. Safety in numbers and all that. Associate with like-minded people who believe in the Constitution, are armed and trained to use those arms.
“it’s a good idea to live more than one gas tank away from any large city.”
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Good luck with that unless you mean VERY large city. A tank of gas is a one way trip of four hundred miles or even more depending on vehicle.
New Hampshire is the only state in the northeast that is not hostile to firearms. I was born there, grew up there and intend to move back there. Up North. Massholes have ruined Southern New Hampshire.
That’s my plan. Plant a garden, get some livestock, and know thy neighbors.
Shhh!
You are suppose to tell about the -65 temperatures and the 7 months of winter! Keep on talking about Alaska and even more refugees will try to drive here!
But realistically Alaska IS a safe if not the safest place in America to be should such events like Yellowstone erupting, illegal immigrant invasions, terrorism or political dangers.
The interior of Alaska nobody gives a dam about. But the natural resources are outrageously abundant, provided a person can live with that mindset.
No netflix, no cable TV, no phone lines, gas lines, hardly any real roads. Gun laws? Hardly any. Cost of living? Extremely high in the big city and living like you would in the lower 48,in the interior its a different story, chop down your own trees for a log house, mortar your own fireplace, harvest local game, grow foods VERY quickly and then you have this natural barrier against the outside of sheer distance and of course the weather and in most respects Alaska is a natural fortress.
In Western Tennessee, there are no hills to speak of, and that’s close to the New Madrid deal. The Navy map shows it under water if the New Madrid blows; winters there can be buggers, though maybe a bit shorter than northern winters.
Probably 300 miles is good enough. My gas tank holds 20 gallons, I supposed big trucks might have bigger ones. I have two old cargo vans and usually if I drive to the nearest big cities (both about 6 plus hours away) I generally need to refill at some point in the journey.
Even 200 miles is better than nothing. But to live within half a tank of any big cities is IMO something that will be later bitterly regretted.
Definitely not The Mid-South, don’t come down here, it’s a horrible place. Just horrible.
You should instead consider New Jersey, New York, Chicago, Boston, Denver, Seattle or Los Angeles.
Any of those would be a better bug out zone than anywhere near the TN/NC mountains. Take my word for it.
I agree!! South Carolina really sucks.. you don’t wanna come here!! North carolina or virginia are much nicer places
Terrible advice! Especially the Upstate of SC. Stay away from here. It's no good......
I've never owned a cell phone, but have a sat phone for emergencies and I never use it. We are still on slow dial up but have dir tv. More importantly, we live off what the land and river provides as a matter of seasonal subsistence. I could put up 100 hundred kings if I needed to, use to always put up 3000 chums for my dogteam. Everybody here snares rabbits come winter, gets all the caribou they need in fall, and heck I was shooting spring mallards last night myself. People here do what the Indians have done since time began and it becomes quite part of lifestyle.
Most lower 48ers can't deal with giving up the city when it comes right down to it, no joke. At first, I missed some things too, but quickly figured out what I gained was more important; but I still get hungry for big macs mid winter.
Food & supplies will always flow if you have the bucks to buy them. High cost of living is what will kill people everywhere; the less I spend and more I make it on my own the better. It's a way of life we have always followed here. The State of Alaska could survive economically on it's own also with resource development. Just look at how many fed regs are not enforced here and matter of law of the land back east.
WE feel quite good about the future out here, not much will change except higher prices. When you can control what you spend, half the battle is over. People in urban areas can't control their cost of living, just keeps going up; everything you do costs big bucks.
Luv the freedom I have out here, the country is just icing on the cake, and the minus 60 for 2-3 weeks a winter is a minor distraction.
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