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Airships are ready to make their big comeback
IO9 ^ | Alasdair Wilkins

Posted on 05/04/2011 4:32:24 PM PDT by AfricanChristian

Ever since the Hindenburg disaster in 1937, airships have been a largely abandoned technology, their continued existence consigned to being a quick shorthand for alternate universes in science fiction. But now, 75 years later, airships might be ready to return.

To be fair to airships, the Hindenburg blew up because its fuel was flammable hydrogen - something its German operators had to use because the US banned the export of helium to the Nazis - and so it's perhaps not the best representative of the technology's abilities. Then again, the Hindenburg was far from the only airship disaster, and the subsequent rise of faster and more reliable airplanes removed any clear need for airships. Now some entrepreneurs are banking on the fact that the time is right for an airship revival.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: airship; transport
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To: Oztrich Boy
It was adverse weather that initiated the end of the Hindenberg too.

And a bomb.

41 posted on 05/04/2011 6:15:24 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Vigilanteman
I can also see a substantial leisure travel market. There is a growing traveling population willing to trade in time for lower transportation costs.

Low and slow along the Pacific Coast Highway, across the Serengeti, around the Hawaiian Islands, over the Grand Canyon, across the Alps, or through the Inside Passage. Could be a very good way to travel!

42 posted on 05/04/2011 6:27:28 PM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: PiperShade
"Can modern “airships” overcome these limitations ? Its problematical, even given the advances in materials available to today’s designers."

Are you familiar with Dynalifter? Any thoughts on its potential?

43 posted on 05/04/2011 6:57:13 PM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: AfricanChristian

They could hang a gondola the size of Pittsburgh under Joy Behar and then fill up her big, empty jug-of-a-head with helium and float around the world frightening children.
“Eat your spinach or Joy Behar will swoop down and crush you!”
“No Mommy, No! Make the bad Behar go away!”


44 posted on 05/04/2011 7:17:00 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: piytar

That’s assuming the airship has the ability to remove itself from the path of a fast-moving weather system. Not much of a problem for a 500 mph airliner....most airships are not so fast-moving.


45 posted on 05/04/2011 7:47:04 PM PDT by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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To: blueunicorn6

Fill ‘er up with hydrogen instead..... :)


46 posted on 05/04/2011 7:52:47 PM PDT by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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To: katana
The other point is that if blimps and Zeppelins ever become commonplace the nighttime reports of UFO's will go through the roof. Seeing something at night that big in the sky moving so slowly is quite eerie.

What would give you that idea?


47 posted on 05/05/2011 1:10:47 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Flag_This
Not particularly with the design cited, just the concept, which has been around in various iterations for decades.

I recall one past proposal was a “flying wing” layout ala Jack Northrup's pioneering designs. (Which weren't original to him, BTW, as two German brothers did seminal work on the concept during WW2, with at least one example a pile of parts at USAF’s Wright-Pat museum last time I was there.)

Frankly, from a pilot's standpoint, I don't see the practicality. Basically all that's being accomplished is a reduction in the aircraft's empty weight - which still has to be negative bouyancy with the aircraft defueled and unloaded or you face even greater control/movement hurdles - and to gain this you have to “give up” a lot of wetted area as a aerodynamic drag penalty which increases your power requirements, hence effecting fuel burn, which increases the basic weight, which reduces cargo load. And so it goes......

Alas, in aviation there's no such thing as a “free lunch”. Every aircraft design past, present and future, is a hodgepodge of compromises decided based upon specifications for weight, range, speed, handling characteristics, operating environment and a host of other criteria. “Getting” something means “giving” something somewhere else in the performance envelope. We already have a host of HTA “heavy lifter” designs in production, not to mention some very interesting “Superlift” WIGE point designs sitting in airparks.

Sorry, I don't see the concept as having much practical/economic application. If it did, it would be flying right now. >PS

48 posted on 05/05/2011 2:46:36 PM PDT by PiperShade
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To: PiperShade

There is a bright future for the “ Big Gas Bags” look how many have been floating around Washington for years and years.


49 posted on 05/05/2011 2:53:20 PM PDT by BooBoo1000 (Never pass up an opportunity to " Shut Up")
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To: jonascord

This is the 74th Anniversary. It happened in 1937.


50 posted on 05/06/2011 7:39:13 PM PDT by PghBaldy
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To: PghBaldy

Thanks


51 posted on 05/06/2011 7:44:58 PM PDT by jonascord (The Drug War Rapes the Constitution.)
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To: blueunicorn6

THAT is the Post of the Decade.


52 posted on 05/06/2011 7:53:48 PM PDT by PghBaldy
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To: BooBoo1000

I hadn’t considered the self-promotional aspects of “gas-bagging” by our elected officials. >PS


53 posted on 05/07/2011 1:31:23 PM PDT by PiperShade
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To: jonascord

You’re welcome. No biggie.


54 posted on 05/07/2011 1:48:16 PM PDT by PghBaldy
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To: AfricanChristian

Heh.. The the ‘Fringe’ alternate universe.


55 posted on 05/07/2011 1:51:45 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: He Rides A White Horse
Perhaps a novelty more than anything else. In this age, I don’t see people hopping on a zeppelin to London for business purposes.

There will always be lackeys and sales people that are forced to live in dirty hotels and travel by winged public buses. For pleasure, I'd much rather ride around in a blimp.

56 posted on 05/07/2011 1:52:05 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

I completely support your right to do what you want.


57 posted on 05/07/2011 2:05:46 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse ((unite))
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To: He Rides A White Horse

Hey>> Thanks!!


58 posted on 05/07/2011 2:36:06 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

You’re welcome..LOL.


59 posted on 05/07/2011 2:39:49 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse ((unite))
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To: He Rides A White Horse
Ya, the last time I had to fly, I was forced to sit next to some filthy A-rab who smelled like a campfire...That was after I was subjected to being sniffed, scanned, searched, stripped of my shoes, by some 5'3" 290 pound ebonix speaking shut-in, who was given a job by this corrupt obese government.

I remember thinking...I'm never doing this again....lol

60 posted on 05/07/2011 2:46:05 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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