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Online cigarette buyers hit with taxes [PA]
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ^ | 5 May, 2011 | Bill Toland,

Posted on 05/04/2011 11:47:53 PM PDT by brityank

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To: brityank

The government has become the enemy of the people.


21 posted on 05/05/2011 4:32:13 AM PDT by Flavious_Maximus
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To: brityank

When I still smoked I bought mine online and once they hit New Jersey with the back tax thing I knew it was a matter of time over here in PA.

Good thing for me is, I only smoked a pack a day...Not 5 or whatever her number comes up to.

Price was the main reason I quit too, but that don’t mean I’m paying back taxes without a fuss.


22 posted on 05/05/2011 4:40:52 AM PDT by BallyBill (WARNING:Taking me serious could cause stress related illness.)
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To: brityank

She lost her job and home but can afford to smoke?


23 posted on 05/05/2011 4:58:00 AM PDT by bikerman (Where Has My America Gone?)
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To: brityank
Next Obama will tax us for flatulence.
24 posted on 05/05/2011 5:04:51 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: Lancey Howard
If my math is right.

30 months / 232 cartons = 7.7333... cartons per month

7.3333... / 30 days = 0.25777 cartons per day.

0.25777 cartons * 20 packs/carton = 5 packs a day.

Pretty hard to smoke that much by yourself.

25 posted on 05/05/2011 5:13:52 AM PDT by McGruff (When it comes to Obama's birth certificate. Trust, but verify.)
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To: brityank
Sorry that you seem to think your rulers can make you pay for something they had no involvement with.

For the record, the "rulers" make more profit on the sale of just about anything than the stockholders of the company that produced whatever was sold. It's called sales tax. The only investment a State has to make is in a few police and a bunch of prisons.

ML/NJ

26 posted on 05/05/2011 5:38:06 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: napscoordinator
United States Constitution: Article 1 Section 10:
No State shall, without the Consent of the Congress, lay any Imposts or Duties on Imports or Exports, except what may be absolutely necessary for executing it's inspection Laws;

27 posted on 05/05/2011 5:44:14 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: McGruff
130 weeks - 232 cartons.

Her husband was still alive during this time and was most probably a smoker also.

Divide the 232 by 2 (assuming 2 smokers in the family) and that is 116 cartons per person for those 130 weeks.

That is less than 1 carton per person per week.

P.S. Your math goes off when you figure 20 packs per carton - there are only 10.

28 posted on 05/05/2011 5:51:53 AM PDT by Abby4116
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To: Owl_Eagle; brityank; Physicist; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; GOPJ; abner; baseballmom; Mo1; Ciexyz; ...

ping


29 posted on 05/05/2011 6:11:24 AM PDT by Tribune7 (We're flat broke, but he thinks these solar shingles and really fast trains will magically save us.)
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To: napscoordinator; brityank
Anyway, you don’t think that Pennsylvania had anything to do with this.

Not a thing.

Did the truck not drive on Pennsylvania roads during delivery?

Roads that are already paid for by the trucking license fees and gasoline taxes.

Did they come by the Postal System?

Since when do the states have the authority to tax federal government agencies (or pseudo agencies in this case)?

Did Pennsylvanians handle the boxes at all?

Any tax on this labor (assuming for the moment that it should be taxed) would show up in the income tax on those laborers wages.

You see Pennsylvania DEFINITELY had something to do with the process.

PA had nothing to do with it. She bought them out of state just as surely as if she had driven out of state to pick themn up herself.

30 posted on 05/05/2011 6:17:11 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: John O

You make some very good points.


31 posted on 05/05/2011 6:26:32 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: calex59
Instead, we have brain dead a**hats such as you cheering for the state.

Sadly, you'll find lots of cheerleaders for the police state here.

32 posted on 05/05/2011 6:51:58 AM PDT by zeugma (The only thing in the social security trust fund is your children and grandchildren's sweat.)
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To: napscoordinator

Thank You


33 posted on 05/05/2011 7:02:06 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: this_ol_patriot; calex59
Yes they could or would, there have been both booze and cigarette patrols on I-83 at the PA/MD line and people have been caught...

Yes. I remember those things down by the Delaware border coming up to Philly on I-95. I used to go out of my way to hit liqueur stores that were past the one closest to the PA border because I got the impression that they had someone checking plates at the one most convenient to the state line. There is nothing a state won't do if they think they are being cheated a nickle. PA is no different.

34 posted on 05/05/2011 8:34:16 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: napscoordinator; RobRoy

People come to Texas from Louisiana for our tax free weekends; we drive across state or county lines to pay less for gas, etc. 4th of July city folks buy fireworks in the county. Why do people always seem to get their tricots in a bind when we are talking about someone else wanting to buy cigarettes? IMO, people should be able to buy what they want to buy and if they can get it at less cost somewhere else, then go for it. I agree with RobRoy!


35 posted on 05/05/2011 8:53:25 AM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: ALPAPilot

>>I guess the slaves were free. They just had to follow the law and work every day at their master’s plantation.<<

I believe the modern word for “slave” is “employee”. And as with slaves throughout history, some had benign slave masters and others suffered through more malevolent masters.


36 posted on 05/05/2011 10:02:02 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: McGruff

>>0.25777 cartons * 20 packs/carton = 5 packs a day.

Pretty hard to smoke that much by yourself.<

Usually what happens is that a group of people will get together and pool their money. Then one person orders or drives to the state to pick up the goods. However, if you drive there, they can’t charge back taxes. The state has to be able to prove you actually USED them in their state.

We are flying to California for a graduation this weekend. We’ll bring a suitcase with a couple of towels in it and fill it with booze, and bring it back full. We do this pretty much every time we fly to Chicago. My favorite tequila is $46 in Seattle, $27 in Chicago and $20 in California. And it is not so much the money as the principle. It is a form of going Galt, at least to me.


37 posted on 05/05/2011 10:24:37 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: Flavious_Maximus

>>The government has become the enemy of the people.<<

I discovered that in 1997 when I sat through a lot of family court in prep for my own divorce. My perception of the US fundamentally changed that year. It is much worse now. It is dangerously close to how the Soviet Union was described to me in grade school and Jr High in the 60’s.


38 posted on 05/05/2011 10:31:27 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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