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British Survey: Disabled Opposes Legalizing Assisted Suicide
Life News ^ | 5/9/11 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 05/09/2011 4:12:50 PM PDT by wagglebee

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“The survey’s questions were worded fairly, unlike recent general public opinion polls which use the pro-euthanasia lobby’s euphemisms, such as ‘assisted dying’. Disabled people, including young adults, are increasingly alarmed by the celebrity-driven push for legalizing assisted suicide. Disabled people want help to live well and die naturally, not lethal injections or poison-pills,” he added.

I'm sure the culture of death is baffled that their intended victims aren't lining up to be slaughtered.

1 posted on 05/09/2011 4:12:54 PM PDT by wagglebee
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3 posted on 05/09/2011 4:15:09 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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4 posted on 05/09/2011 4:16:34 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Perhaps the disabled recognize just how easily a homicide could be masked as assisted suicide?


5 posted on 05/09/2011 4:20:02 PM PDT by Melas
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To: wagglebee

This is always a difficult issue for me.

I think the right to end one’s own tread upon this mortal coil is an absolute right — it 100% up the the individual and the State has no right to interfere with that decision. Anyone who says other is merely a statist demanding their personal moral code be forced upon others, limiting freedom in an almost infinite manner.

The slippery slope begins when it goes from being a personal option to an obligation (a’la eskimos mythos, Logan’s Run or Soylent Green).

So long as a human draws breath and is clear on his/her intentions, the State should stay the hell out of end-life decisions: one way or the other.


6 posted on 05/09/2011 4:21:01 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats. /P. J. O'Rourke, 1991)
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To: wagglebee

Indeed. Some people do note that things that were once illegal become permissible and then, after time, become mandatory. Voluntary assisted suicide for the disabled will rapidly become involuntary assisted suicide once some f*cking accountant with a spreadsheet finds that killing the disabled will save the National Health Service (NHS) a few quid.


7 posted on 05/09/2011 4:23:44 PM PDT by MeganC (NO WAR FOR OIL! ........except when a Democrat's in charge.)
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Welcome to the brave new world...


8 posted on 05/09/2011 4:26:18 PM PDT by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton, Paradise Lost)
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To: freedumb2003

Once you accept that a person has the right to decide to end their own life, you open the door to others’ deciding that the person in question is too deluded or politically incorrect to make the right decision.


9 posted on 05/09/2011 4:32:43 PM PDT by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton, Paradise Lost)
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To: wagglebee

Disabled are like smokers, a small minority. Their vote doesn’t count. The rest see them as easy prey for their own gain.


10 posted on 05/09/2011 4:37:07 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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>>Once you accept that a person has the right to decide to end their own life, you open the door to others’ deciding that the person in question is too deluded or politically incorrect to make the right decision.<<

I don’t necessarily buy that premise, but if you follow that logic, it should end with the decision from someone who is NOT in their “right mind” to always be in favor of life.

But it is wrong for the State to unilaterally take away an individual’s decision to end his/her life (so long as it does not take others’ in the process).

But the devil is always in the details.


11 posted on 05/09/2011 4:38:54 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats. /P. J. O'Rourke, 1991)
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Once you accept that a person has the right to decide to end their own life, you open the door to others’ deciding that the person in question is too deluded or politically incorrect to make the right decision.

Once you accept that the state has the right to restrict peoples' decisions about their own lives, you open the door to others deciding whatever the heck they want about your life!

12 posted on 05/09/2011 4:48:35 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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Nicely misrepresented poll.

NOT A SINGLE QUESTION asked about supporting or opposing the legalization of assisted suicide, unless you know of some hidden questions that weren't released with the others.

But honesty means nothing to Life News, I know.

The poll was about concerns...and many who have concerns still support the legalization. (I'm one example.)

I bet a question that asked,
"Do you believe that disabled persons should be allowed to get assistance legally in doing anything they are unable to do themselves?" would yield a strong YES result.

Why not make people crawl up courthouse steps?

13 posted on 05/09/2011 4:56:47 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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Perhaps the disabled recognize just how easily a homicide could be masked as assisted suicide?

Yes..that's why there are concerns even when there's support. Anyone would be stupid or crazy not to have concerns. I have concerns about RKBA, but support it. I have concerns about people drinking and driving, but I'm not against either.

It's called sanity. Just because someone is disabled doesn't mean he's insane. But in a rational society, we address concerns. There are many concerns as the law exists, such as people making botched suicide attempts, or having to kill themselves before they become too infirm, rather than waiting and having their remaining time.

14 posted on 05/09/2011 5:00:31 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: wagglebee

In other news unborn babies oppose abortion by overwhelming majorities.


15 posted on 05/09/2011 5:00:34 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: freedumb2003
So long as a human draws breath and is clear on his/her intentions, the State should stay the hell out of end-life decisions: one way or the other.

You're exactly right, but you're gonna upset the big-government nanny-state libs here. You can tell them by the way they don't care about individuals or their rights, preferences, or decisions ...they just lump together "lives" in an abstract way and proclaim that they know better than the people themselves. Oh, and if you can't do something for yourself, then you're out of luck, as far as they're concerned.


While I recognize the "obligation because of societal pressure" idea, I'm starting to question even that. We recognize a person's free will even if he's under pressure. Societal pressure doesn't mean a person must buy an iPhone. Societal pressure doesn't mean a person can't make personal decisions.

16 posted on 05/09/2011 5:11:02 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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The pro-life organizations should sponsor an annual “Dr. Harold Shipman Award”, to the biggest medical advocates of euthanasia.

Dr. Harold Shipman was a convicted English serial killer. A doctor by profession, he is among the most prolific serial killers in recorded history with 218 murders being positively ascribed to him, although the actual number is likely much higher.

Shipman died on 13 January 2004, after hanging himself in his cell at Wakefield Prison in West Yorkshire.


17 posted on 05/09/2011 5:57:54 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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I’ve read that many of those “assisted” had no input into their so-called “sucide”


18 posted on 05/09/2011 6:06:42 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Gondring

That’s what I just said.


19 posted on 05/09/2011 6:13:58 PM PDT by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton, Paradise Lost)
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To: freedumb2003

I don’t think the State OR the person should have the right to end a life. Of course someone who is committed to suicide is going to do it anyway, especially if they don’t believe in God, so there is no sense legislating it unless you are trying to give the State the power to end OTHER people’s lives. We are close to agreeing except whether the person has the right to end their own life and that is, in the long run, a moot point.


20 posted on 05/09/2011 6:18:36 PM PDT by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton, Paradise Lost)
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