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Why democracy is failing America
Natural News ^ | Tuesday, May 10, 2011 | Mike Adams

Posted on 05/10/2011 4:00:00 AM PDT by Scythian

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To: Scythian
Failure is the chief characteristic of human social creations.
21 posted on 05/10/2011 4:37:47 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Clinging Bitterly

Make the wealthy corporations pay their fair share?

The writer doesn’t understand a lot of things, as evidenced.


22 posted on 05/10/2011 4:43:17 AM PDT by wita
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To: Scythian

Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh, wrote the following in 1787:

A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world’ s greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, the nations always progressed through the following sequence:

1. From bondage to spiritual faith
2. From spiritual faith to great courage
3. From courage to liberty
4. From liberty to abundance
5. From abundance to complacency
6, From complacency to apathy
7. From apathy to dependence
8. From dependence back into bondage

It was God who got us out of the bondage of Europe in the seventeenth century and it is turning our back on God that is ending our Republic.


23 posted on 05/10/2011 4:47:33 AM PDT by RoadTest (Organized religion is no substitute for the relationship the living God wants with you.)
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To: sueuprising

I don’t know how trade or national defense would work without a federal government.


24 posted on 05/10/2011 4:50:59 AM PDT by SMARTY (Conforming to non-conformity is conforming just the same.)
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To: RoadTest

It was God who got us out of the bondage of Europe in the seventeenth century and it is turning our back on God that is ending our Republic.

In concept I agree completely.


25 posted on 05/10/2011 4:56:47 AM PDT by wita
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To: P8riot
"Iffen da Queeny treaten alla dem Gungans witda respects yusa showen Ja Ja, meetinks, yep, dat meyby okeyday ta tink." -- Jar Jar Binks
26 posted on 05/10/2011 5:00:35 AM PDT by whd23 (Every time a link is de-blogged an angel gets its wings.)
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To: Repeal The 17th
“..John F. Kennedy was probably the last President who attempted to actually tell the truth, and they shot him in the head for asking too many questions...”

Agree that that comment was totally unnecessary and, IMO, erroneous. And that's not why Lee Harvey Oswald shot Kennedy.

27 posted on 05/10/2011 5:01:45 AM PDT by luvbach1 (checked your profile)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
"What’s needed is a branch of government that is not beholden to an electorate."

We did until Woodrow Wilson and the 17th Amendment changed how Senators were seated. Repeal the 17th Amendment bump!

28 posted on 05/10/2011 5:02:43 AM PDT by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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To: Ozone34
Monarchy is preferable to democracy.

That could work out. 0bummer wouldn't mind being king.

29 posted on 05/10/2011 5:04:03 AM PDT by luvbach1 (checked your profile)
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To: Scythian
Yeah, Democracy sucks. That's why we are a Constitutional Republic instead. Imbeciles. This "author" has his head up his putrid sphincty.

;-|

30 posted on 05/10/2011 5:09:16 AM PDT by Gargantua (Palin 2012 ~ "Going Oval")
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To: RoadTest

Three hundred plus years ago and Tyler got it exactly right. I reckon we’re on step seven, sliding towards eight.


31 posted on 05/10/2011 5:13:44 AM PDT by upchuck (Think you know hardship? Wait till the dollar is no longer the world's reserve currency.)
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To: Ozone34
"Monarchy is preferable to democracy. In a monarchy, the ruling family has an incentive to keep the economy prosperous, so they can continue to leach off its fruits."
Worked so very well in Europe, right? Failed monarchies led to the rise of Communism and Nazism in the 20th century. Not to mention both world wars.
32 posted on 05/10/2011 5:15:23 AM PDT by JadeEmperor
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
What’s needed is a branch of government that is not beholden to an electorate.

Do you mean a dictatorship? Like Chávez?

33 posted on 05/10/2011 5:21:24 AM PDT by upchuck (Think you know hardship? Wait till the dollar is no longer the world's reserve currency.)
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To: Caipirabob
I did scan the article looking to see if its author was educated or not. He isn't.

Our founding fathers never established a democracy. They knew democracies failed. They didn't trust the mobs. They had read and understood the lessons of history. When they established this nation they actively excluded a significant part of the population not by race nor sex but by possession of property. They felt that if you didn't have an active stake in the nation you shouldn't have control of its future through the right to vote.

Since the 1820’s there has been a drive to change the rules established by our founding fathers. Some, the race and sex requirements, were ones that the founding fathers knew had to be changed - their writings both public and private prove this. Some reflected the changes in the world. A few were done to gain political power.

My bottom line?

The Federal Government, not the Representative Republic, is failing because it is attempting to do things that our Constitution was designed to prevent.

If the article had addressed this and used the term Representative Republic in place of Democracy it would be an excellent article. AS it is, it is nothing more than a flawed high school history paper.

34 posted on 05/10/2011 5:21:24 AM PDT by Nip (TANSTAAFL)
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To: whd23

Okeyday


35 posted on 05/10/2011 5:22:27 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.....Eagle Scout since Sep 9, 1970)
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To: Scythian; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; Gilbo_3; NFHale; ..
RE :”Democracy is failing America, and we can't just blame it on the politicians and the corporations. People actually vote for their own self-destruction by electing professional liars to represent them....At its core, the democratic process of electing representatives is a popularity contest. The voters inevitably end up supporting whichever lawmakers offer the best handouts right now, regardless of the long-term consequences to the nation. Voting, in other words, is a contest based on short-term rewards rather than long-term vision. Not surprisingly, when the voters go to the polls, they tend to elect the person who promises them the most right now.....But that doesn't stop the voting action which still boils down to a popularity contest to decide the leader who tells the best lies...

Jeeze, this sounds like my writing. There is some stuff in the article I disagree with, but the above especially mimics my observation of the 2008 election with the biggest liar Obama winning, McCain gave it a good try though as a huge phony. Even Republicans won 2010 by acting as if they were the protectors of Medicare benefits (ref Obama-care cuts) now act surprised that their proposal to get (practically) rid of it is not popular. They knew not to run on that.

36 posted on 05/10/2011 5:23:55 AM PDT by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: JadeEmperor

You miss the historical point. Monarchies ran out of steam in a modern world. There was change. Your horizon is too short.

In some places the change process was co opted buy socialist zealots who had an idea that failed. In Russia it apparently happened twice. In China they recognize that fact and are moving in a direction toward a form of government not yet fully evolved

The primary story of the twentieth century is the demise of monarchy and the rise of democratic government. The evolution presently continues


37 posted on 05/10/2011 5:23:55 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 ....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: JadeEmperor

You miss the historical point. Monarchies ran out of steam in a modern world. There was change. Your horizon is too short.

In some places the change process was co opted buy socialist zealots who had an idea that failed. In Russia it apparently happened twice. In China they recognize that fact and are moving in a direction toward a form of government not yet fully evolved

The primary story of the twentieth century is the demise of monarchy and the rise of democratic government. The evolution presently continues


38 posted on 05/10/2011 5:24:11 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 ....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: Scythian; sickoflibs; hiredhand; NFHale
This is why I no longer have the drive, I too see it's end. Oh, I'll still vote, but it's an utter waste of time. However, I am not depressed, worried, or afraid, I have a better hope. God Bless Everyone.

30 replies and the best im seeing are shortsighted nitpickings on a particular sentence, or simply the term 'democracy'...

our FRee Republic was replaced with a 'hungry, hungry hippo' of self feeding democracy, w/o a shot being fired...the basic premise being made is spot on...

my attempts at 'life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness' dont originate, and cannot be 'granted' by men, and i'll Thank God everyday for the FReedom i enjoy, whether 'allowed' by men or not...

we're entering a late stage, of lines that are gonna be very dangerous to cross...tread lightly hippos...

nobody *knows* the timeline of the temporal, much less the eternal, but history shows that we are doomed as a matter of fact...some kind of 'reset' is certain...who is to put the pieces together is the mystery...

39 posted on 05/10/2011 5:25:03 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: chooseascreennamepat

“It is time to rethink the Constitution.”
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No, there is zero chance that we would write something better. The problem is not the constitution, it is our failure to abide by it. The current system has strayed so far from the rule book that if America were a baseball team the pitcher would be sitting in the stands and the batter would be trying to hit from the dugout and the umpires would be calling home runs for successfully farting.


40 posted on 05/10/2011 5:25:23 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a liberal is like teaching algebra to a tomcat.)
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