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White Americans See Anti-White Bias on the Rise
Wall Street Journal ^ | May 11, 2011 | Christopher Shea

Posted on 05/15/2011 2:17:10 PM PDT by reaganaut1

Both white Americans and black Americans perceive significant progress in the fight against anti-black bias, but white Americans believe the progress has come at their expense, a new survey finds.

The researchers contacted a random national sample of 209 whites and 208 blacks, and asked them how much discrimination each group faced, on a scale of one to ten, for each decade since the 1950s.

Black Americans saw anti-black bias as declining steadily, from 9.7 in the ’50s to 6.1 in the ’00s. Over the same period, they perceived a small increase in anti-white bias, from 1.4 to 1.8.

White Americans saw an even steeper decline in anti-black bias: from 9.1, in the ’50s, to 3.6, in the ’00s. But more striking, according to the researchers, was the sharp increase in perceived anti-white bias: Among whites, it shot up from 1.8 to 4.7.

White Americans, in short, thought that anti-white bias was a greater societal problem by the ’00s than anti-black bias.

The researchers described the pattern—which did not vary markedly with regard to age or education levels—as evidence that white Americans see race relations as a zero-sum game, in which one group’s gains must be offset by another’s loss.

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KEYWORDS: bias; polls; racism; whites
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The paper “Whites See Racism as a Zero-Sum Game That They Are Now Losing” by Michael I. Norton and Samuel R. Sommers is here .
1 posted on 05/15/2011 2:17:14 PM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

What is the point of “surveys” like this? To foster more mistrust between the races? Who benefits from this?


2 posted on 05/15/2011 2:20:29 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: reaganaut1
"But more striking, according to the researchers, was the sharp increase in perceived anti-white bias: Among whites, it shot up from 1.8 to 4.7..."

two words come to mind, eric holder.

3 posted on 05/15/2011 2:20:39 PM PDT by FreeMaine (I wonder if barry ever adopted the two girls?)
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To: reaganaut1
Unfortunately America has to slip into Banana Republic status before white people come back into demand.

Life is just always like that.

4 posted on 05/15/2011 2:20:43 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Obama can't see something pure like the truth without wanting to abort it.)
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To: reaganaut1

Yeah, zero sum game. How ‘bout a game played by zer0 and his minions...?


5 posted on 05/15/2011 2:21:35 PM PDT by freebilly
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To: reaganaut1

The presumption that whites see race as a zero-sum game is ludicrous. The proper analysis is that people bending over backwards to provide preference to blacks has naturally resulted in pushing some deserving whites to one side.

My father was denied a promotion so that a politically correct black woman could be chosen. He had previously handled much larger offices, but they couldn’t even keep her on the job for long.

The reality is that making decisions based on racial preferences IS a zero sum game. Making hiring decisions based on merit is the only fair system.


6 posted on 05/15/2011 2:26:53 PM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: reaganaut1

Dumb crackers.


7 posted on 05/15/2011 2:32:04 PM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: reaganaut1

Dumb crackers.


8 posted on 05/15/2011 2:32:10 PM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: reaganaut1

It is not bias, it is negro racism that infects the population


9 posted on 05/15/2011 2:38:59 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 ....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: ilovesarah2012

>> What is the point of “surveys” like this? To foster more mistrust between the races? Who benefits from this?

Affirmative action, Political Correctness, and Hate Crime laws foster mistrust and racial abuse. Reporting the reaction to such engineered racism is a good thing.


10 posted on 05/15/2011 2:39:59 PM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: FreeMaine

Or two more words oval office.


11 posted on 05/15/2011 2:44:53 PM PDT by Americanexpat (Everytime I see that guy's face ot)
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To: reaganaut1
Maybe if whites vocally and demonstrably pushed back HARD then others would mind our place.

12 posted on 05/15/2011 2:55:56 PM PDT by I see my hands (Embrace Misanthropy)
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To: ilovesarah2012
I only know that my daughter works in the restaurant business and that AA do not tip. They even go so far as striking through the tip on the receipt! Is this a national problem?
13 posted on 05/15/2011 2:56:55 PM PDT by jonsie
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To: reaganaut1

If whites sees bias as a zero sum game it’s because leftists pushed to impose a legal framework that guaranteed it would be a zero sum game. The Communists do not believe all people can advance together. Now, something must be taken from one group and given to another — redistribution. They bastards love it so. We all have to pay for their economic, social and political insanity.


14 posted on 05/15/2011 2:59:43 PM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: ilovesarah2012
Who benefits from this?

Race hustlers.

Aside: What kind of "national survey" uses 400 people?

15 posted on 05/15/2011 3:02:53 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Stay focused: Debt, Deficits, Immigration.)
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To: I see my hands
Maybe if whites vocally and demonstrably pushed back HARD then others would mind our place.

Indeed. It will take being vocal and standing up. Otherwise they will continue to cram it down our throats. It will NEVER stop unless we make it stop.

17 posted on 05/15/2011 3:07:37 PM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: reaganaut1

thats for sure


18 posted on 05/15/2011 3:10:32 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: reaganaut1

thats for sure


19 posted on 05/15/2011 3:10:41 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: himno hero

But surely you realize that ol’ Zimbabwe Zero is doing his job of advancing anti-colonialist affirmative action fascism. All property belongs to a black and leftist dominated government elected by “feel good” guilt assuagement, don’t you understand? God asks for 10%; Zimbabwe Zero feels that he is being generous if he leaves you 10%.


20 posted on 05/15/2011 3:16:15 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: himno hero

Surely you do not mock the Uganda space program?


21 posted on 05/15/2011 3:18:07 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: jonsie

My daughter was a waitress at Denny’s several years ago and she said the same thing. No one wanted to wait on blacks because they wouldn’t tip. Had nothing to do with the color of their skin - just couldn’t make money from them. Of course, I have also heard that about the “after church” crowd.


22 posted on 05/15/2011 3:25:06 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: reaganaut1

This is heartening. To the extent that whites begin to perceive the Donks as the black party, the GOP may begin to approach the kind of lock on the white vote that the Democrats have on the black vote - 9 to 1 vote margins.


23 posted on 05/15/2011 3:25:11 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: reaganaut1

24 posted on 05/15/2011 3:27:29 PM PDT by SparkyBass
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To: reaganaut1
There is a terrible simmering rage that is appearing here.

Obama and Holder and their statements and policies are at the root, yes?

25 posted on 05/15/2011 3:31:05 PM PDT by mckenzie7 (Democrats = Trough Sloppers!)
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To: reaganaut1

I’d like to see the statistics on pat downs by TSA by race, and you can adjust it by % of population.


26 posted on 05/15/2011 3:32:18 PM PDT by culpeper (He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people,)
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To: ilovesarah2012

The Left think they benefit; but they don’t.


27 posted on 05/15/2011 3:34:27 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: the_Watchman
The presumption that whites see race as a zero-sum game is ludicrous. The proper analysis is that people bending over backwards to provide preference to blacks has naturally resulted in pushing some deserving whites to one side.

The reality is that affirmative action creates a less-than-zero-sum game. In zero sum, if a black wins, that means a white guy loses. In the affirmative-action game, a demand to hire less qualified blacks over more qualified whites creates an incentive to move work overseas and bypass the game entirely. That means that BOTH blacks and whites lose.

28 posted on 05/15/2011 3:38:46 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: newzjunkey

“Race hustlers.”

Yes and the biggest one at present is Barry Soetoro.


29 posted on 05/15/2011 3:52:41 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

I didn’t read the article but agree with the title absolutely, and apply it also to Christians world wide and in the USA.


30 posted on 05/15/2011 4:00:28 PM PDT by RitaOK
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To: reaganaut1

If Obammy is an example of this reasoning they need thier head examined


31 posted on 05/15/2011 4:00:48 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (V)
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33 posted on 05/15/2011 4:09:43 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: the_Watchman

“My father was denied a promotion so that a politically correct black woman could be chosen.”

This situation is nasty, and getting worse. It has become so prevalent that it is difficult to discern which “preferred” people are genuine and which are tokens. As the economic lot of whites worsens (along with every else), this nonsense of turning down whites for jobs, school admissions, and promotions should come under greater scrutiny & fire. If it doesn’t, then whites may logically assume that the government has declared war on them.


34 posted on 05/15/2011 4:18:49 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: kearnyirish2
As the economic lot of whites worsens (along with every else), this nonsense of turning down whites for jobs, school admissions, and promotions should come under greater scrutiny & fire. If it doesn’t, then whites may logically assume that the government has declared war on them.

Affirmative action could only be tolerated for as long as the majority of white voters could assume that it would not materially affect THEM. In a time of downsizing, layoffs, and shipping jobs overseas, every white, and especially every white male, must assume that continuation of affirmative action is a mortal threat to their livelihood.

35 posted on 05/15/2011 4:23:50 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: Zhang Fei

“the GOP may begin to approach the kind of lock on the white vote that the Democrats have on the black vote - 9 to 1 vote margins.”

BJ Clinton drove many of the white men out of the party (at least the straight ones); the Kenyan Pirate will push out the white women. White women are realizing that the marginalization of their menfolk has left slim pickings for potential mates; when white kids are walking around with droopy drawers, sideways baseball caps, and covered in tats, then an alarm has been sounded.


36 posted on 05/15/2011 4:23:50 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: reaganaut1; All

there’s always been racism against whites- it was called a double standard and accepted...thankfully people are starting to wake up in large part due to obozo’s class warfare...


37 posted on 05/15/2011 4:25:11 PM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: FreeMaine

Yes, Eric Holder. There are anti-white racists in the Justice Department.


38 posted on 05/15/2011 4:26:14 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: PapaBear3625

“In a time of downsizing, layoffs, and shipping jobs overseas, every white, and especially every white male, must assume that continuation of affirmative action is a mortal threat to their livelihood.”

It is a mortal threat to their future, and that of their people. At the same time, they’re expected to “mentor” tokens to make up for years wasted occupying space in schools without learning some very basic skills. I detest any white liberal male old enough to be complicit in this legalized discrimination.


39 posted on 05/15/2011 4:26:44 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: FreeMaine
But Holder IS white. Look at him. Look at Ben Jealous and Rev Wright--all palefaces with Caucasian features.

They're self-hating white guys.

40 posted on 05/15/2011 4:30:16 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: freebilly

The game was being played long before Obama arrived on the scene.

Think UN and think Uncle Sucker’s inherent subservience to this evil organization.

Notice the direction of flow of international migration ever since the creation of the UN. It is ALWAYS towards the West and NEVER in the other direction.

Then ask yourself: How did this migration ever benefit the West?


41 posted on 05/15/2011 4:54:36 PM PDT by 353FMG (The M1911 is mightier than the sword.)
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To: 353FMG

All racists can take a leap! Unfortunately, there are some in governmental positions that are obviously biased and seem to have power over you.


42 posted on 05/15/2011 5:03:12 PM PDT by hal ogen (1st amendment or reeducation camp?)
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To: hal ogen
From the beginning of time, people of whatever color have always wanted to be with their own people. We see it everyday, with places like Chinatown, Mexican villages, etc..It is only normal, but not allowed if you are white.

No matter what people do or say, the black population hates whites more than we know. Its obvious to most, yet it seems PC police say racism is wrong, but only for white people.

Its a hate crime if a white man kills a black crime, but that never applies if a black man kills a white man. I guess that was done out of love..it always amazes me that people eat this pile of crap.

Cities are destroyed and turned into crime pits, and slums, and yet that is to be accepted. Accept it in your neighborhood, or the government will come after you. Rising crime rates as the big cities are destroyed and they move on into the suburbs, and it is to be accepted and you better like it. Its pushed into your face, and the crackers with white guilt add to it. These liberal white guilt morons live in Lilly white neighborhoods, and preach to rest of us about diversity. But they don't live it, and they make sure they don't.

I am sick and tired of this whole racist pile of garbage. No one as a free man has to like anyone. They don't like white people! They like your money and their free ride, section 8, welfare and food stamps. They laugh at us.

Now go to work, and pay your taxes, like a good cracker. We are now the slaves.

43 posted on 05/15/2011 5:30:58 PM PDT by Debi911
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To: hal ogen

Your tagline should say(2nd Amendment of Re-education Camp). Cause the second is the only thing holding this lot in Washington from firing up the 40X8s!


44 posted on 05/15/2011 5:50:20 PM PDT by crazydad
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To: reaganaut1

From the article:
“Both white Americans and black Americans perceive significant progress in the fight against anti-black bias, but white Americans believe the progress has come at their expense, a new survey finds.”

Indeed there is an “anti-white” bias, and it is ever-growing. It will eventually morph into an “anti-gentilism” (for lack of a better term) which will resemble the classic anti-Semitism expressed against Jews. Euros will become a shrinking portion of the population, reduced in numbers but perceived (by non-Euros) as hoarding a lion’s share of influence, power, and wealth. Eventually, they will become the target of political and cultural demonization, which will intensify as the Euros decrease in numbers. The more that Euros attempt to refute this, and the regardless of how “fair” they try to be, the more bitter the chorus against them will ring.

What is the _real_ source of such bias, though?
Where did it originate from?

I contend that it began with the passage of the Civil Rights Act and subsequent “anti-discrimination” laws and court decisions that followed.

By codifying in law the very concept of “discrimination”, and that one or more racial or ethnic groups had been “wronged”, we opened the door to everything that ensued. We should NEVER have elevated ANY class of people, ANY ethnic or racial group to the equivalent of a “super-protected” status that some such groups seem to enjoy today.

Once they achieved such protection, it paved the way for such things as affirmative action, deemed necessary to repair prior “wrongs”.

As Chief Justice John Roberts wrote in a recent U.S. Supreme Court decision, “the way to end racial discrimination is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” (hope I got the quote correctly)

There should never have been a “Civil Rights Law”, for the same reason there should not be “hate crime laws”.

In a country where the premise is that everyone is equal, there should be no need for such laws.

Justice Roberts recognized the truth:
The more anti-discrimination legislation that is passed, the more DISCRIMINATION there will be.


45 posted on 05/15/2011 7:03:32 PM PDT by Grumplestiltskin (I may look new, but it's only deja vu!)
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To: SparkyBass

Outstanding :-). Consider it copied.


46 posted on 05/15/2011 7:17:04 PM PDT by SueRae (I can see November 2012 from my HOUSE!!!!!!!!)
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To: Mamzelle

That’s an interesting point. Put Holder and Obama next to Alan Keyes, Herman Cain, Walter E. Williams, and Clarence Thomas — and then tell us who the authentic blacks are, at least according to skin color (which liberals are obsessed with). Obama is particularly inauthentic in that he doesn’t have a single drop of slave blood in his body. Half white hippy chick, half African Muslim — yeah, he’s the real deal.


47 posted on 05/15/2011 7:27:47 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: the_Watchman

Know your Dad’s situation all too well.


48 posted on 05/16/2011 1:42:50 AM PDT by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: PapaBear3625
The reality is that affirmative action creates a less-than-zero-sum game. In zero sum, if a black wins, that means a white guy loses.

That is just the kind of small-mindedness the WSJ is invoking against. In your example, the white guy also wins because his loss serves to partially atone for his inherited racial guilt. Thus a win-win situation!!!

49 posted on 05/16/2011 2:09:55 AM PDT by mas cerveza por favor
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To: Debi911

In Montgomery County MD the politicians and their liberal asshat minions have dispersed the illegals and minorities throughout the county through welfare chits for housing and extensive bus routes (although, not for the politicians’ neighborhoods). This leaves many afraid to go out (especially at night) for fear of having their wealth “redistributed” by these ferals. Maryland THE Freak state.


50 posted on 05/16/2011 5:10:22 AM PDT by hal ogen (1st amendment or reeducation camp?)
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