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Yeah, I would pretty much agree it was Walker, he made no bones about the fact he was anti-machine throughout his tenure as Governor. Of course he was DOA for a second term in either scenario, since the Daley machine purged him and combiner Michael Howlett won the RAT primary in '76.

Pat Quinn was anti-combine in the 80s and 90s, but he turned a blind eye to corruption once he became Lt. Governor under Blago and needed to ensure Blago won a second term so he'd stay on. He completely sold whatever was left of his soul to get the combine's blessing to run for Governor in own right. Now Quinn's such a combiner he rejected his OWN "Reform Committee" recommendations for transparency in this state.

Peter Fitzgerald was the last non-combine Senator for Illinois. Jack Ryan was asked to oppose him and flat out told the "powers that be" that he wouldn't challenge Fitzgerald in 2004 if Peter Fitzgerald wanted a second term. We saw the price he paid for straying from the combine's little "suggestion" after he eventually did run and win an open primary for that seat.

Ugh you two are the experts. But from IL History in undergrad I believe you are correct. All the Repubs were Combiners, the last one is in jail and is why we got pummeled in the House and Senate which we had and could have held. And then Blago and Madigan redistricted it so folks like my family have BOBBY RUSH as a Congressman!!! A Black Panther for a Congressman who can't speak coherently.

I am still in Judy's district by a hair. But they can easily redistrict me to Bobby Rush or Lipinski. Even though he is a rat, I'd take Lipinski any day over Bobby Rush. Lipinski has voted against the party line a few times and I believe he is pro-life although I don't know much about him as you know I had to focus on the 13th Congressional District.

It will be interesting if they redistrict I know Judy and Peter are safe. I worry about Joe Walsh and the guy who won Kirk's seat. I think Adam Kinzinger is safe and I am still wondering why Hultgren is asking for money I can't imagine that being a contestable seat. Foster won because he had horse shit opponents.

Like I said Oberweiss couldn't win a race for town dog catcher!!! If they ran a ham sandwich against Foster the ham sandwich would have won. Foster only won re-election due to Bush, and Obama's coattail effect in this state.

BTW DJ I've been attacked viciously lately by some folks on several threads saying I'm crazy, never worked for Judy, ect... do you think that is a coincidence or due to my thread regarding the Muslim compound after OBL?

This only started after I made that original thread regarding the Pakistanis, BTW FBI responded and suddenly no more mass gatherings at the Pakistani house actually we haven't seen any cars. And I was talking to other neighbors they called the FBI as well so it is good to know that atleast the bureau in Chicago is actively fighting jihadists.