Posted on 05/17/2011 9:03:10 PM PDT by PROCON
WASHINGTON (AP) - Researchers commissioned by the nation's Roman Catholic bishops to analyze the pattern of clergy sex abuse over decades have concluded that homosexuality, celibacy and an all-male priesthood did not cause the scandal. The report from the John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York said about 44 percent of the known abuse cases involved priests who were ordained in the 1940s and 1950s, at a time when seminaries did not properly train them to live a celibate life. These men were not equipped to withstand the social upheaval of the 1960s, which was a time of an increase in sexual deviancy and a spike in crime in society at large, the authors said.
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So true...it took years for my wife to realize what I was telling her...that her homo pal who cut her hair wanted her to look like a little boy actually
I do like Karl Lagerfield even myself as a designer of clothes for chicks...gay as hell but very pro life and conservative by Euro standards
Percantagewise, more public school teachers molest kids, both opposite and same sex, than has ever happened in the Catholic priesthood.
Maybe they should allow teachers to get married!
Oh wait....
I doubt it.
Normal heterosexual adult males do not find 12 year old boys to be sexually attractive, no matter how accessible they are.
Do the Jay researchers presume that the offenders would have sexually assaulted any human being who was available? If the pederast priests had been given access only to 80 year old women, then -- ?
It would be helpful to know what percentage of pederasts are homosexual and vice-versa. I have been unable to find an agenda-free source for that information.
There is an excellent book about the Lavender Mafia that purposely infiltrated the Catholic Church and once a bunch of fags got in the church they covered up for each other and some seminaries wouldn’t even let normal men in.
It was a homosexual problem, not a celibacy problem. And it’s getting fixed now.
The problem is the normalization and promotion of homosexuality and any sexual deviancy and immorality, that is the actual problem. Not celibacy.
And what about those who are not married? Do they all become pederasts just because they aren’t married? Do all celibate people become deviants? All religions teach that people should refrain from sex until marriage. People who follow this standard don’t all become homosexual predators.
It’s not the celibacy, it’s the fagggotry. Keep fags out of the seminaries and the problem is solved.
And of course the media loves it because the media hates God and anything that besmirches the Catholic church is a festival for them.
That reminds me of a post I read on FR a year or two back. When I read it I nearly fell out of my chair laughing. It was in response to one of those female teacher with 16 year old boy stories. This guy wrote that for a 16 year old boy all sex was good, unless you were walking bowlegged out of the rectory.
As I stated before, no nookie until marriage is not what I am talking about. A lifetime of no nookie is. Be honest, what normal guy what sign up for that. For the sake of argument, if there was a rash of incidents for the last couple of decades of priests fooling around with adult women, do you think the Catholic Church would have a bigger or lesser mess on its hands.
The instances of abuse have decreased very sharply since the late 70’s early 80’s. I think part of that is due to the homosexualists not having a reason to turn to the priesthood in order to “hide” as it became more acceptable to be an open homosexualist in general society, especially in a group that officially teaches what they do is a sin. Most of the sickos seem to be are old queens or dead, being ordained in the late 40’s-60’s. The younger priests all seem conservative as opposed to their elder peers.
The bottom line is like you said, don’t let homosexualists become priests.
Freegards
You could be right. Your reasoning seems logical. Question, as I don’t know, has there been a drop in the number of men taking up the priesthood in the present, or has the numbers remained consistent with the past. And if it has dropped, what problem in staffing will this create.
Some men have the fortitude or the self-sacrifice to give up marriage for serving God. Not many, but some. And what about men who can’t find a wife? Or whose wives cannot perform their marital function due to health problems? There are many situations where human beings need to restrain the sexual urge. Come on, we’re not animals. We have will power. And there are ways to tame the sexual impulse, or inflame it.
That is good news. And from what I’ve read, there is some increase in the numbers of men and women entering into holy orders (if that is the right term) lately. Young men and women who want to serve God and are willing to sacrifice marriage and all that entails.
In liberal areas with liberal bishops there is a great lack of men becoming priests, the more conservative areas with traditional bishops have many vocations to the priesthood. But vocations have dropped all over since the advent of modern mores.
The more liberal the diocese, the stronger the push is to have “lay leadership”, priestesses, and clergy in “relationships”. Liberal Catholics HATE the discipline of celibacy, I don’t think you could find a pro-abort/homosexualist/priestess/authority of the Pope hating Catholic pundit who thinks celibacy is of any worth.
Freegards
Exactly. The homosexualist queens and their cronies are dying out. There is a generation of Catholics who are attracted to traditional values, and have big families. One suprise(at least to me) is that the latin version of the Mass is also very attractive to young people, and also hated by liberal Catholics.
Freegards
Must be why the Catholic Church disappeared so quickly after celibacy was instituted.
Some of them were just straight pedophiles. In fact that they were predominantly pedophiles shows that it was not celebacy or homosexuality that was the cause. It was the mindset that retreated from the real world to one of segregation, rigid rules, and the opportunity to have authority over the young and weak while being granted God ordained respect and power.
Seminaries in orthodox dioceses in the United States are growing.
Celibacy was an informal part of the priesthood from the days of the early Church. But it became formalized over several centuries, beginning with the Council of Elvira in 295 and becoming decisive during the papacy of Gregory VII in the 11th century.
Ah, so it's poor training and education. After all, sin is a bit old-fashion these days.
“The Catholic Church needs to connect the dots...”
They already did, but it isn’t PC to tell the truth. They have banned all homosexuals (including “celibate” ones) from their seminaries. They only took effective steps after paying out MILLIONS.
You could also look at the fact that some of the apostles left behind families when they were martyred as a good reason for celibacy; the martyrs of communism in the 20th century may have relented if someone put a gun to their wife/child’s head.
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