Skip to comments.Tucson SWAT Team Defends Shooting Iraq Vet 60 Times
Posted on 05/20/2011 5:55:31 PM PDT by Graneros
A Tucson, Ariz., SWAT team defends shooting an Iraq War veteran 60 times during a drug raid, although it declines to say whether it found any drugs in the house and has had to retract its claim that the veteran shot first.
And the Pima County sheriff scolded the media for "questioning the legality" of the shooting.
Jose Guerena, 26, died the morning of May 5. He was asleep in his Tucson home after working a night shift at the Asarco copper mine when his wife, Vanessa, saw the armed SWAT team outside her youngest son's bedroom window.
"She saw a man pointing at her with a gun," said Reyna Ortiz, 29, a relative who is caring for Vanessa and her children. Ortiz said Vanessa Guerena yelled, "Don't shoot! I have a baby!"
Vanessa Guerena thought the gunman might be part of a home invasion -- especially because two members of her sister-in-law's family, Cynthia and Manny Orozco, were killed last year in their Tucson home, her lawyer, Chris Scileppi, said. She shouted for her husband in the next room, and he woke up and told his wife to hide in the closet with the child, Joel, 4.
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60/71 isn’t all that bad for cop shooting. /sarc
Better than the 7/71 I first read. So now I don’t believe either.
Police state ping. Roaming assassination squads. Leftist union cops out of control.
How many of them are Taliban and al Qaeda sympathizers?
He survived Iraq to have armed thugs masquerading as “police” gun him down.
I’ll bet they all get promotions.
I guess Deputy Dawg Dipstik was right when he called Tucson the mecca for racism and bigotry.
Awful, gooberment running amok...
Maybe Jared had a "job" ~ with the sheriff!
Someone with better access to the other cases might be able to come up with some sort of connection between them and the Giffords shooting.
Was it directed at the judge perhaps?
“No there isnt. And this joke of a Sheriff and his SWAT goons should start paying a Henry Bowman type price for it.”
When the worm turns it will be horrific. There’s a lot of pent up anger out there and it’s a shame because this country COULD have been a paradise.
SWAT teams now have their own lawyers?
God help us.
i think it started out as accidental shooting or improper shooting and to cover it up, they had to make sure the person was dead so shot him a few more times
From the same human debris who couldn't run his mouth fast enough after the Giffords shooting by a lunatic well known to him.
So does that mean 30 Jack booted thugs double tapped this war hero?
This Sheriff murders Americans but will not arrest Illegal Aliens.
It’s just a dead civilian, you act like he was important, like he was a deputy or a police dog.
Let them finish sweeping this unpleasantness under the rug and we can all sleep better knowing the swat angels are watching us through their nightvision rifle scopes as we sleep. Dynamic entry teams poised at the ready to save us from ourselves without warning or mercy.
All these fake wars, on drugs, on terror, are only to terrorize, maim, and murder Americans. This is a prime example.
It appears that, lately, there have been a lot of derelicts given weapons and badges.
Everyone from the intel to the sheriff and the guys who offed this war hero need.....
Gawd, what does one say?
You screw up even half that bad in private business and you’re fired, and subsequently served with papers. Any real man who committed an act like this would end his own life after making everything which was his, part of the survivors of the family. But there are very few honorable people in law enforcement. Their honor is only to each other, their power, and paycheck.
“This Sheriff murders Americans but will not arrest Illegal Aliens.”
Very good point indeed.
The “fine” work of Sheriff “Dipstick” Dupnik. What an @ss.
e.g. Waco -—> OKC ?
Labor Union thugs with badges and guns.
I’m not suggesting that all law enforcement officers are bad. After all, several of my family members are, but a lot of these thugs are just criminals posing as cops.
Didn’t something similar happen to a vet in Las Vegas? In a Sam’s club or something?
Dupnik = dipshit
Reportedly, they shot Osama bin Laden twice, or four times, depending on who you believe which day.
They shot this veteran more than 60 times.
Because a Marine is more dangerous.
Black humor. I find this shooting to be deeply disturbing.
As someone else here pointed out, they can git yur guns after they pass through the IEDs.
i agree. if only there was one honorable man on that SWAT team, maybe a vet, who would tell the truth.
...if she saw one outside, they must have seen her. yet they still stormed that house, with a woman and child inside. (and the wife, and neighbors, say there were NOT sirens, etc.!)
...the vet, after getting his wife and child to safety, was killed with his safety on. (the police admitted that!).
...and he was alive when the wife came out of the closet. (indicating the original 7 bullets was more correct).
the wife CALLED 911 ! and begged them to send medics. the SWAT team, apparently couldn’t “secure” the tiny house, that the Vet had only purchased and moved into 2 months before.
so they refused to let the medics in. then, 1 hour and 14 minutes later, they told the medics standing by, they could go home, because the “suspect” was dead.
...those “policemen” sat there for over an hour, while a veteran bled to death. a veteran they later admitted, had nothing on his record but parking tickets...
This SWAT crap is out of hand nationwide.
People like this are effing crazy and have no business in law enforcement or being anywhere near firearms.
This is the mentality that led to Ruby Ridge and Waco.
Good post, Doc..
Yup. And then the cushy pension/lifetime benefits and double-dipping (like the former police chief here in Tucson).
The current police chief supported the La Raza Marxists when they shut the school board down a few weeks ago. No arrests, nothing. Wouldn’t want his “people,” illegal aliens or not, to get upset or slowed down in their reconquista.
Don't know what they are, but they seem to have mighty twitchy trigger fingers.
Questioning the actions of government is what the press should be doing. This Sheriff should be removed from office for trying to control the media.
I wish ALL of the media would question the acts of ALL the government ALL of the time.
SWAT teams need to go away. If they were being used the way they were sold to the citizens, and storming into known drug and gang fortified buildings and blowing away the known hardcore gangs, I would have a different opinion.
They are not used at all the way they were sold to people.
All cops know where the drug hideouts and gang buildings are in their cities. The fact they are not taking these people down and shooting them the way they shoot individual citizens who believe their home is being invaded is evidence they need to go away.
they will not go away, as this is part of the globalization plan of turning each nation’s police force into internal security forces. State Dept Pub 5277 Freedom From War.
Marines who have served should form a flash mob at an event in Tuscon. Something like they bring his wife and kid to a public place where law enforcement is doing their own hoorah thing and is suddenly faced with five hundred marines who just arrived from thin air, saluting his wife and handing her a flag.
Given this was a narrow hallway, some of the hits were probably ricochets.
Even if that is true, 60 times out of 71 shots fired? For one guy?
I would imagine once one starts shooting, they all would. For one suspect, with no return fire, it seems excessive to me, especially for so called "professionals". Sounds more like a hit to me.
Was also said his weapon was found still ON SAFETY!
The sad thing is that if the wife claimed her dead husband was shot because he was considering getting a sex change, the whole world would come unglued over his civil rights being violated. Since he’s not part of any protected group, he just a dead guy who would have been a republican vote. At least now his wife and kid will need to live off of government support and there votes will be harvested.
Maybe we could just have a local militia to take out jihadis and gov't run amok.
yes. it was a West Point graduate. at Costco.
(i read the intital reports right here at FR,
and we know how often a West Point graduate, with a legal concealed weapon commits a crime... never.)
...a liberal employee objected to the concealed carry, and called police to report a “crazy man”.
many witnesses (including his girlfriend standing beside him), said he never drew the weapon, yet the police swore under oath he had a gun in his hand. 2 of the police got commendations.
ALL four of the Costco security cameras “malfunctioned”. and the hard drive linked to them “went bad” and they were unable to recover ANY of it...
(coincedently, the person in charge of it, was the same person who made the police call...)
i will NEVER shop at Costco again...
Completely. Or if, as people have said, this had happened under Sheriff Joe or Babeu’s watches... all HADES would have broken loose. Every scrap of paper would be turned over from the garbage, there would be 24-7 investigation, the racism cries would never end, so on and so on.
Since it’s a leftist radical in the People’s Republic, all is forgiven (although at least the Red Star IS running the story daily, so that’s something).
This Sheriff is the same “cat” who said he would not enforce AZ 1070 immigration bill. What a piece of crap.
blackdogs’s comment hits the target. This calls for action. For all you Freepers making grandiose statements like “if they come around my neck of the woods, ill show them the business end of my “ or “if SWAT attacks my family, they will be sorry” or “I’ll drop as many as I can” or “they better not come around here” or “etc.” This is your wake up call. All your Internet words don’t mean poop. You will be picked off one by one if you aren’t organized and make life interesting for dirtbags that do this type of thing to you and yours (and SWAT doesn’t have a monopoly on this type of murder).
And another drug war cheerleader weighs in. Feeling pangs of guilt?
Just commenting on the job the media should be doing and doesn’t