To hell with submission. Is this what America wants?
The fusion of islam and communism? Talk about Gulags!
Posted on 05/20/2011 6:52:41 PM PDT by Nachum
Again, what better subterfuge is there than to accuse your enemy of what you yourself have engaged in for years? And the fabricated stories of Muslim women (or alleged converts to Islam) being abducted by Christians in Egypt have indeed provided a handy cover for a new string of disappearances.
They are nothing new, as Coptic Pope Shenouda III observed even in 1976 that "there is a practice to convert Coptic girls to embrace Islam and marry them under terror to Muslim husbands." And our own archives are full of over seven years of such reports. Meanwhile, the world looks the other way, or now pleads, "but, but... Tahrir Square!"
Wishful thinking in Western think tanks and governments won't un-abduct these girls and women. As Islamic groups -- "Salafis" and others -- are emboldened by the lack of challenges they have encountered in the wake of the revolution, there will only be more stories like this. "No Going Back for Egypt's Converted Copts," by Angela Shanahan for The Australian, May 20:
Amid the upheavals in Egypt since January, reports have begun to emerge of a surge in disappearances of Coptic girls.
One priest in Cairo estimates that at least 21 young girls, many as young as 14, have disappeared from his parish alone.
In most cases, when a Christian girl who disappears is found by her family, she has been converted to Islam and married. The Coptic authorities, have even set up a series of refuges in monasteries to handle the growing numbers of girls who wish to return to their families, many of whom are not accepted by their family of origin.
But a worse problem for these women is that their conversion to Islam is irreversible.
It is worth noting that this is a refreshingly frank report.
Religion is stated on Egyptian ID documents and even though secular law provides for reversions, under the growth of sharia they are very difficult, except for those affording legal advocacy.
This situation is not unique to Egypt. There have been consistent reports of girls being coerced into Islamic conversion and marriage in India, Pakistan, and Sri Lanka.
That many of these girls are initially runaways is not in doubt. However, there is also evidence that a huge number are converted and married against their will.
The situation was documented in a controversial report published in 2009 on conversion and forced marriage of Coptic women by Washington DC-based Christian Solidarity International. The authors are Washington academic Michele Clark and Egyptian Coptic broadcast journalist Nadia Ghaly, based in Melbourne.
Between 2005 and 2008 they interviewed and documented 50 Egyptian women, mostly aged between 14 and 25, who had decided to return to their families. All claim to have been tricked, coerced or raped, converted to Islam and married. Most of the interviewees were trying to reconvert to their Christian identity, with limited or no success. The report's conclusions were printed in several major publications, including Forbes magazine.
Since the so-called Arab Spring, and the ensuing riots at Christian churches, the authors are trying to bring the subject of forced conversion and marriage to greater prominence.
Riots by Muslims. Christians aren't being sent out into the street enraged by Sunday's homily.
Both groups live extremely closed, highly traditional separate lives and the norms surrounding marriage and sex are almost medieval, says Ghaly.
So, for example, it is not unheard of for a young Christian girl from a poor family to run away from an arranged marriage. Yet a high proportion of these women claim coercion, even rape, despite the shame that such a claim will cause if the girl wishes to return.
Many claim they were kept as virtual slaves. Others who were able to leave could not bring their children. Ghaly claims this is more than overt religious oppression, and amounts to "a form of cultural genocide".
She cites a document published by Human Rights Watch in November 2007, which says that even if Coptic women can obtain a divorce from their Muslim husband, those who wish to return to Christianity "meet with refusal and harassment from the Civil Status Department of the Ministry of Interior".
Under sharia law, reconversion is considered apostasy punishable by death.
Cultural baggage? The innovation of modern "extremists?" No. That comes from Muhammad's own orders.
But we need to keep sending billion of dollars to Egypt because.....?
This is truly Sad, yet Sadly not Unexpected, We all need to pray for these young girls, and all those in Egypt who suffer for the faith of Christ.
This makes me sick to my stomach.
Raghead perverts at it again, or should I say, still? I’m not a believer in evolution by any stretch, but if I were ... these folks stopped evolving around the “crawled out of the primordial ooze” stage.
Wiki sez:
The Copts are one of the oldest Christian communities in the Middle East.
Although integrated in the larger Egyptian nation, the Copts have survived as a distinct religious community forming around 10-20% of the population, though estimates vary.
They pride themselves on the apostolicity of the Egyptian Church whose founder was the first in an unbroken chain of patriarchs.
According to ancient tradition, Christianity was introduced to the Egyptians by Saint Mark in Alexandria, shortly after the ascension of Christ and during the reign of the Roman emperor Claudius around 42 AD.
This is what I knew would happen.
ethnic cleansing by rape
It means SUBMISSION/SLAVERY!
The man who currently has the title President of the United States of America is being paid by the King of Saudi Arabia as well as other Islamic leaders who control hydrocarbon based sovereign wealth funds to do exactly the opposite.
Community organizing on a global scale.
Islam is not the enemy, we are.
Losing is winning.
Submission is peace.
Have a friend who married a Saudi when she was 23. She moved to Saudi Arabia and everything changed. She was held captive for years, including being raped by her husband. She had four daughters then was forced to come back to the U.S. She hasn’t seen her children in years.
She told me today that all Muslims practice Sharia law but don’t admit it here in the U.S. This is the “relgion of peace” according the great deceiver W. And we’re allowing them to take over this country.
By the way, she’s a born again Christian today.
Our beloved president lacks the courage to even mention the persecution of Christians.
To hell with submission. Is this what America wants?
The fusion of islam and communism? Talk about Gulags!
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