Posted on 05/23/2011 6:27:02 PM PDT by for-q-clinton
You’re right. It was after checkout time, and DSK did not request a delayed checkout, so there was every reason to believe the suite was empty.
More like noon. He reportedly checked out at 12:28. Had lunch with his ex and their daughter, then cabbed to the airport. Called the hotel at 15:30 looking for his missing phone. They said they'd bring it to him. Instead, the Port Authority Cops vacuumed him off the flight at 16:40, with about ten minutes to spare.
FR is a CONSERVATIVE POLITICAL SITE. The reason we are focusing attention on the DSK story is because he represents the Socialist elite hypocrites who pretend to care for the poor, the workers, and the immigrants, to get their vote, only to screw them literally and figuratively in real life. Also because DSK was the head of the IMF.
You can get the full story by reading the source documents like the Complaint on Smoking Gun, the Indictment handed up by a Grand Jury. And since I’m sure you are fluent in French (sic) the stories coming out everywhere in the French press by women journalists who also received the DSK treatment, even to the point of rape.
Her namesake, Nafissatou Diallo (1941-1982), was very into French culture.
More likely died of AIDS. She reportedly resides in housing reserved for the seropositive. Something to think about when the issue of biting is brought up. LOL!
Something else...Strauss tried to get two other woman, in that same hotel, to come to his room as well.
Rape is all about control...and incite terror in the victim so they will comply...willingly or not.
Keep in mind that Hotel Guests are just that. Employees are taught well to treat them with the greatest of respect. Employees do not want a red mark on their file for pretty much anything in a high end hotel.
This gal handled herself exactly as she had been trained to do...she continually said no...she resisted...and she fought as a last resort.
Think of how long it takes an individual to come to grips with the idea he is being attacked and what’s going on...before he actually fights back.
In this case you have a woman going about her job, and following all preceedures to do that job. Like a thug in an alley this perp jumps at her....and the perps a guest in her bosses house.
I worked with an attractive woman who was invited to attend a company conference in France...the company is based in France. This is a huge and successful company.
Of course while there she had opportunity to meet the Owner and His sons, who were of course carrying high offices in the company.
At dinner the one son, in his 40’s and married, stepped toward her and put his tongue in her ear...right out of the blue..and laughingly said ..”This is France and that is what we do when we see an attractive woman, consider it a compliment”
France’s reputation and how they view woman as sport is well known...they make it known and boast about it.
Why not?...... You know where this is going as well as most here. It'll be settled out of court after a long and involved tit for tat between attorney teams eager to make this last as long as possible in order to get paid a handsome fee...not to mention notoriety....Meanwhile reporters pushing the "story" along to keep the public engaged so they can get their monetary take as well...not ot mention the paparozzi following everyone to sell their pictures.
Of course because Strauss has his connections and can hurt alot of people for what he knows in the IMF and their shenanigans, they'll be backdoor bribes to the Hotel and to witnessess who will make some money along the way.
Let's not forget Strausse's enemies..who will see this as an opportunity to play their hands as well...so there will be more stories added to the fray as this thing moves along...and the beast wil grow and feed itself for the sake of all those who stand to gain monetarily.
The victim will be given a handsome payoff to get lost on some island in Paradise, enough to get any psycological help to recover from the incident...and she'll be set for life and Strauss will be done as IMF..but like Clinton will make his rounds once again on the International circuit and getting heavty fees for those engagements.
Meanwhile there will be a trail of victims...wives, children and families suffering thru it all who will never have the life they have known as a family before this occured...few ever think of the children.
I've been finding some interesting ‘alleged’ facts about what happened...especially about the victim.
She had gone thru a secession of Hotel supervisors....her immediate supervisor, who found her scrunched down in the hallway, outside the suite in a utility maintenance closet she had hidden in... until Strauss had left and had heard the service elevator open where her supervisor was doing a standard floor check ......that supervisor contacted her immediate supervisor...who then called the hotel security. ..each determining there was enough said, and evidence, to call the police.
Throughout these the victim was nauseated and spitting frequently , hardly able to speak, and shaking as she attempted to explain what happened. A couple times trying to vomit....and when they went with her to the suite she was immediately distressed....( this behavior is typical, almost standard, to an individual who has been ‘forced’ to perform oral sex and that thru assault of some nature).
Furthermore...the time it took to calm her and follow the Hotels protocol was about an hour or so. This is about right as well.
So it appears some are reporting she heard Strauss leave the building while hiding in the hall utility closet and she came out of there when she heard the service elevator open...The supervisor explained they have standard floor checks which is why she was there at that time.
An interesting note is even when Strauss name was mentioned, the police had no clue who he was. Yet some are questioning why she wouldn't know.
The one thing very important is they do have plenty of evidence...from her spittle on the walls and floor...his DNA on her clothes...blood on the sheets...and most importantly a consistent explanation of what happened...her story was detailed and substantiated by the evidence...
And now we have Strauss whose attorney will claim it was consensual because they know the evidence witnesses etc. is compelling.
I’m shocked...you mean a man hit on good looking women in the lobby! Why there should be a law against this! In fact, the only way a man should meet women is through pre-arranged marriages. /sarcasm.
you wrote:
“Where did I say everyon woman who is orally sodomized is a coward?”
that’s what you seem to be saying: “Now explain why she would perform oral on him and not bite it off or scratch him up?”
Realistically there are only two possibibilities that go along with that statement: 1) you believe - because you have no clue about sexual abuse or rape - that this woman could have simply bitten him and freed herself but was too cowardly and weak to do it, or, 2) she wanted it and there was no force involved at all. If you have a third possibility please post it.
“This woman appears to only be worried about her job.”
As an immigrant who cleaned up after the rich and powerful her job would be important to her. Also, in her African experience, she probably assumed she would not be believed.
” He doesn’t threaten her (at least not that’s been reported). She claims she will lose her job and he says she won’t. So if that’s what she considers a threat on her life then she’s too stupid to even clean hotel rooms.”
So you don’t think grabbing a woman and forcing your penis into her mouth is threatening? I’ve never been to prison, but apparently you would love it.
“But if she was forced to perform oral sodomy then you’d agree there would be marks on her face, neck, head, and or hair that are consistent with forceful rape, right?”
Nope. As many woman have testified to in the past, it is entirely possible to orally sodomize a woman without even forcefully touching her above the collar bone with your hands. A woman merely needs to be overwhelmed, or held down, threatened, etc.
“And if not then something else happened. Rape may have occurred after the oral sex, but not at that point (at least not without some marks on her head or shoulders).”
Again, there don’t have to be any significant marks on her at all. How many marks would be made by him grabbing her? Would they be that noticeable? I think you have no idea of hwat you’re talking about. It’s as if you have never talked to anyone who was ever sexually abused, as if you have lived a sheltered life of make believe.
“I think we all understand there was no knife or gun present (unless it’s just not been reported yet).”
Neither would be needed.
I agree this is a conservative website where we believe in the constitution and that a man is innocent until proven guilty. So far we have only got one side of the story and only heard what they want us to hear.
Surely you agree we shouldn’t decided guilt until he has his day in court, right?
or it could have been rough sex and she decided it was too much for her and took off running.
Just saying we won’t know until he gives his side of the story and then what evidence he has that helps his side.
Hey! That guy stole one of Bill Clinton's old lines... and HE stole it from Tes Kennedy...
Hey! That guy stole one of Bill Clinton's old lines... and HE stole it from Ted Kennedy...
John Kerry may be the originator.
For someone who doesn’t want us to pass judgment on the actions of a powerful French politician you sure are eager to pass judgement on the actions of a hotel maid.
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