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Zogby Poll: Cain Takes Lead over Romney
NewsMax ^ | 5/23/11

Posted on 05/23/2011 9:43:59 PM PDT by Kartographer

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To: AnotherUnixGeek

Awesome!


61 posted on 05/23/2011 11:58:31 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman!)
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To: re_nortex

19 percent isn’t bad. Nearest challenger is Chris Christie. Romney got 11 percent with 9 percent unfavourables.

Still a long way to go. They have Cain at 46-38 against Obama, right up with Bachmann.

Romney is at 45-40.

So that’s huge for Herman. He’s only 2 points down of Obama on the ballot, right up there with Pawlenty, Bachmann and Daniels.

He’s got to be considered top tier, and just outpolled Paul against Obama.


62 posted on 05/24/2011 12:08:08 AM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman!)
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To: Kartographer
I understand how upset you must be with Cain getting the stoplight and your candidate no coverage at all.

No, I'm happy that none of my candidates have made these kinds of gaffes. I'm just sorry that so many people don't understand the importance of getting these things right. Ignorance gave us Obama, but ignorance won't get him out of office.

63 posted on 05/24/2011 12:15:13 AM PDT by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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To: Kartographer

Just donated to hermancain.com
If the GOP is trying to hide and downplay him then he must be for real.


64 posted on 05/24/2011 12:15:53 AM PDT by rwoodward ("god, guns and more ammo")
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To: Brookhaven
"We’ll at least Romney can be proud he has raised the most money."

The Three Finger Mitt spent the last two years ginning up those bucks so they could be donated at his opening bash. Good PR.

yitbos

65 posted on 05/24/2011 12:27:19 AM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: Kartographer

Great news!!


66 posted on 05/24/2011 12:30:29 AM PDT by CainMutiny
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To: Netizen

I’m glad Christie ain’t running. He’s got too much liberal baggage yet the GOP would push him hard.


67 posted on 05/24/2011 12:30:31 AM PDT by CainMutiny
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
I disagree. GOP voters and, more particularly, Tea Party members are perfectly aware of what the important issues are right now and the Palestinian "right of return" isn't close to being one of them. We have a political class comprised mostly of people who've never worked in private industry, never had to meet a payroll, never created a single job. These dilettantes understand neither basic economics nor human nature and they are driving this nation into financial ruin.

A man who has built and revived businesses and understands economic reality is a man we need in the White House - whether Cain is that man remains to be seen, but I already like him more than the likes of Romney, who is the epitome of the mindset that has gotten us into the catastrophe we now face.

The Palestinian "right of return" may not be that important an issue, but foreign policy is always a big issue for the president. Our Founding Fathers intended Congress to take the lead on domestic policy like spending and the regulation that would affect jobs. The executive office was to implement what Congress passed and take the lead in dealing with foreign powers. That's why the first administrations had departments of state and war but not a department of commerce.

Whether we are in more danger from pressing debt and over-regulation or from terrorism and war could be an amusing but pointless debate. Either issue could eventually destroy this country if we don't take appropriate action. I'd like to have a president who understands how to do both things well. If Mr. Cain isn't willing to be that president, he shouldn't be receiving so much support.

Mr. Cain has been out of the restaurant business for over ten years. Even as early as 2000, he was mentioned as someone who might run for president or be a vice-presidential nominee. He ran for US Senate from Georgia in 2004. If he had any remote interest in being president at any time in the past, he could have prepared himself for foreign policy questions. Many experts in this field leave government service and write books about these issues. Any of us can buy and read these books. As a prominent man in Republican circles, Mr. Cain could have requested and received a private audience with many of these experts. They might have specific secrets that they couldn't give him, but they could have taught him the important issues involved in various important regions.

Mr. Cain's fumbling these questions tells me that at least one of a few possibilities must be true. One possibility is that he doesn't understand the importance of presidential leadership in foreign affairs. Getting economic policy right is important, but Congress must play a huge role in that policy. No one but the president can lead on foreign policy, and if Mr. Cain doesn't understand this fact, he shouldn't be president. Another possibility is that Mr. Cain vaguely understands the importance of foreign policy but has failed to make an effort to prepare himself in that area. I'm not sure whether I'm more frightened of someone who doesn't understand the importance or someone who understands but doesn't make an effort to prepare himself. A third possibility is that he's tried to prepare himself in foreign policy but has been ineffective in learning what he needed to learn.

He's had at least ten years to learn these topics. If he's not ready by now, he's not going to be ready to take office in 2013. If he'd fumbled only one question, I'd not be that worried. If he doesn't fumble another foreign policy question for the next seven months, maybe the concern will pass. To see him fumble two questions within a few weeks is a big concern.

68 posted on 05/24/2011 12:38:58 AM PDT by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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To: excopconservative
"People will not gamble a Presidential election on someone who has never been elected to any office."

A little different from Alan Keyes who lost a couple of elections. But there haven't been two more consistent absolute conservatives.

yitbos

69 posted on 05/24/2011 12:42:15 AM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: Waryone

This is not an argument about who the “elite” likes.

I’m talking about establishment republican voters and what kinds of things establishment republican voters tend to like on their resume. Country Club Republicans, a portion of the Republican electorate.

Cain has elite credentials. There is no disputing that. Establishment Republicans like elites. Cain was the Chairman of the Kansas City Fed. Fed Approved. Establishment Republicans look for those signs of approval of the elite and they think positively of these things.


70 posted on 05/24/2011 1:04:25 AM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

Romneys resume and Cains resume are similar. Romney did have the advantage of a famous political dad.

I think people who could like Romney could also like Cain. A very successful businessman, for certain, with the Fed job, elite approved. People who are Conservative, but worry about rocking the boat too much, establishment Republicans, country clubbers might respond well to Cain.


71 posted on 05/24/2011 1:10:28 AM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: MacMattico

“Has he been called an Uncle Tom yet? Or does that only happen when you reach a certain percentage in the polls?”

Yep. He had a talk radio show in Atlanta. He stopped since he announced his decision to run for president. He’s been called just about every name in the book. Mostly coming from other black democrats who are still on the Democrat party plantation. There was one really vicious attack from a liberal blogger after his CPAC speech earlier this year. That was really hateful and nasty. Mr. Cain just kept on keeping on. Name calling has not deterred him.


72 posted on 05/24/2011 1:21:05 AM PDT by abcc2011 (Christian and conservative.)
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To: mylife

Howdy! So you like this guy to ehh?


73 posted on 05/24/2011 1:38:06 AM PDT by Cheapskate (Play loud and carry BIG sticks!)
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To: Kartographer

Straight talk beats forked tongue!


74 posted on 05/24/2011 2:37:36 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like With Trump in attendance, Owhat you say))
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To: WFTR

Let me see I don’t recall McCain making many gaffs, but I DO RECALL ‘BAMMY’ making plenty of them (57 States, my muslim faith and so on) and it didn’t seem to hurt ‘Bammy’ do bad now did it. Face it Cain could have knock those questions out of the park andf you still would like him, why? Well I’ll leave it to you.


75 posted on 05/24/2011 4:08:24 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: truthfreedom

Face it RON PAUL is never never ever going to get the Republican nomination.

This is exactly why because Paul backers spend are so obnoxious to people and spend more time knocking down fellow Republican candidates than they do promoting Paul.

When was the last time you posted something about how much you like Paul or how Paul’s postion is this or that on something instead of posting negative stuff on threads about other candidates?

Next to his own positions Paul greatest weakness is the unpleasant and rude behavior of his backers.

How about spending more time tell us why we should back Paul and less time tearing down fellow Republicans.


76 posted on 05/24/2011 4:27:00 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: excopconservative

The only way Zero won his legislative and Senate positions was to smear his opponents until they backed out so he could win by default.

Then he scammed enough idiots into voting for him for Prez. He’s less experienced than Herman Cain and he won.

We need someone who knows how to turn things around. I respect someone who doesn’t claim to know everything about everything and admits his lack of knowledge. A good President is like a good business executive. He knows he can’t do it all but he picks a good team and leads.

Herman Cain is the real deal and instead of sitting around sniping at him we need to help him out. He is absolutely the best choice for the GOP nomination and can and will beat Zero.


77 posted on 05/24/2011 4:37:56 AM PDT by GatorGirl (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: mylife

LMFAO. With the pinky nearly extended. He’s such a wanna-be.


78 posted on 05/24/2011 4:40:35 AM PDT by MatD
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To: mylife

LMFAO. With the pinky nearly extended. He’s such a wanna-be.


79 posted on 05/24/2011 4:40:40 AM PDT by MatD
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To: WFTR

BS about ‘fumbling’ two questions. Total BS.


80 posted on 05/24/2011 4:42:06 AM PDT by ilgipper
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