[Notary Sojac]

I agree, medicare is always very dangerous territory.

I'm well beyond giving a damn about what may, or may not be, "dangerous territory".

I tell everybody I talk to, liberal or conservative, old or young, that Medicare has to be significantly cut now - and that means that some services now currently available will be provided only on an out of pocket basis - or it will crash and burn in the next fifteen years.

We no longer have the luxury of kicking this can down the alley until all the political stars are perfectly aligned.

[sickoflibs]

RE :"I agree, medicare is always very dangerous territory. I'm well beyond giving a damn about what may, or may not be, "dangerous territory".....I tell everybody I talk to, liberal or conservative, old or young, that Medicare has to be significantly cut now - and that means that some services now currently available will be provided only on an out of pocket basis - or it will crash and burn in the next fifteen years."

I was wondering when you would get to me, I saw you lecturing some others on this last night :)

I have no objection to your point of view, but I also understand those that have objections. The bottom line here is what will actually become law and this specific plan is not going to be law. You have alot of convincing to do at this point with entitlement reform being so toxic, and this specific plan is not something I find easy to argue for. It looks like 'the right's' (opposite) version of 'you have no choice' Obama-care to the average voter who has little reason to trust either party and thinks he 'paid in'.