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DOJ letter:'TSA would likely be required to cancel any flight'(FEDs threaten air blockade of Texas)
The Lone Star Report ^ | 5/24/2011 | Andy Hogue

Posted on 05/25/2011 10:23:19 AM PDT by Roninf5-1

The U.S. Department of Justice sent a letter to House and Texas Senate leaders Tuesday -- reportedly in person -- threatening a shut-down of airports if HB 1937 is passed.

The letter claims Rep. David Simpson's (R-Longview) anti-TSA-groping bill is against federal law and the Supremacy Clause of the U.S. Constitution. We include the text of the DOJ's letter, as well as a portion of Simpson's reply, below.

(Excerpt) Read more at lonestarreport.org ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 112th; bhodoj; democrats; doj; dojisajoke; ericholder; fourthamendment; govtabuse; hb1937; holder; injusticedepartment; liberalfascism; obama; obamalegacy; punishyourenemies; texas; texasvstas; texasvstsa; tsa; tsapervs; tsavstexas; tyranny
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To: Ancesthntr

Why Secede when you can take over? There are a lot of us in occupied territory that would greet you as liberators.


61 posted on 05/25/2011 11:17:17 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: ConjunctionJunction

The TSA is moving to the Interstate Highway System also. I have seen their goons at truck inspection stations.


62 posted on 05/25/2011 11:20:04 AM PDT by wrench
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To: muawiyah
Airline safety is an interesting case ~ my 4th amendment rights require that I be secure against a government regulated airplane crashing into my house. Nothing more important than that. Everything else flows from that consideration.

If you actually believe that the BS that goes on at airports keeps you safe you have sh** for brains. Israel doesn't grope people, they profile and it works. We don't need the TSA. We need private companies providing security, real security that is provided by profiling.

Violating my 4th amendment rights(which BTW does not guarantee that an airplane will not fly into your house, what a stupid statement that was)does not keep muslims from high jacking aircraft, profiling will.

63 posted on 05/25/2011 11:20:14 AM PDT by calex59
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To: calex59
Israel doesn't grope people, they profile and it works. We don't need the TSA. We need private companies providing security, real security that is provided by profiling.

Absolutely! Until they start profiling - and that means double searching all ME males between 18-50 years of age - the TSA has NO credibility in my book.

64 posted on 05/25/2011 11:28:15 AM PDT by Fast Moving Angel (If he has nothing to hide, why is he spending so much $$$ hiding it?)
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To: Roninf5-1

Y’all excuse me for a little while, I have a few phone calls to make. As for the folks not living in Texas hopefully will understand, this is their fight as well.

http://davidsimpson.com/contact/

Email:

General Questions:
contact@DavidSimpson.com

Media Inquiries:
press@DavidSimpson.com

Invitations and Events:
events@DavidSimpson.com

Capitol Office:

Office E1.416

P.O. Box 2910, Austin, TX 78768

Phone: (512) 463-0750

Fax: (512) 463-9085

Representative Simpson:
David.Simpson@house.state.tx.us

Chief of Staff, Kathi Seay:
Kathi.Seay@house.state.tx.us

Administrative Assistant, Michael Bullock:
Michael.Bullock@house.state.tx.us

District Office:

1705 Judson Rd., Suite D2

Longview, TX 75601

Phone: (903) 553-9226

Fax: (903) 553-9877

District Director, Ray Wilson
Ray.Wilson@house.state.tx.us

Campaign:

P. O. Box 5100, Longview, TX 75608

(903) 746-9474


65 posted on 05/25/2011 11:28:18 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: wideawake
And there really is no 4A issue, since no one is legally obligated to fly anywhere if they don’t want to deal with the TSA.

So you are saying, stupidly I might add, that we are only protected by the 4th if we are legally obligated to do something? Are we legally obligated to live in a house? If not then the 4th doesn't apply to us according to your idiotic thinking.

We have the right to travel, therefore we have the right to do so without the feds searching us against our will. The 4th does apply and we need to clamp down hard on the feds. If we had some Republicans with ba**s they would defund the TSA.

66 posted on 05/25/2011 11:28:32 AM PDT by calex59
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To: wideawake

So per your reasoning the only way that we can travel is by foot because the gov can control anything else with the TSA and always search us.


67 posted on 05/25/2011 11:29:04 AM PDT by Ratman83
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To: Balding_Eagle

Hello, FRiend! How are things up at the north end of town?


68 posted on 05/25/2011 11:32:10 AM PDT by American Quilter (DEFUND OBAMACARE.)
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To: TLI

Also...

State Sen. Dan Patrick
District 7 (R-Houston)

Contact InfoTwitter: @DanPatrick
Facebook: facebook.com/sen.dan.patrick

Capitol Seating Assignment Room: 2E.8
Seat: 7

Capitol Office Room: 3S.3
Address:
P.O. Box 12068
Austin, TX 78711
Phone: 512-463-0107

District Office Address:
11451 Katy Fwy, Suite 209
Houston, TX 77079
Phone: 713-464-0282


69 posted on 05/25/2011 11:33:47 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: txhurl; basil; SwinneySwitch; lormand; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; Xenalyte; BJClinton; LUV W; MEG33; ...

Texas vs TSA ping.


70 posted on 05/25/2011 11:35:27 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (zero hates Texas and we hate him back.)
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To: Minus_The_Bear
The TSA is now providing security for proms in NM.

And is that mandated by statute? Or was it by invitation?

71 posted on 05/25/2011 11:39:38 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: Roninf5-1
The TSA originally allowed for two alternatives: 1) TSA officials providing airport screening and security, or 2) TSA-Approved contract agencies doing the same.

When the flying public protested the enhanced screening and peekaboo machines as invasive and against the Fourth Amendment, some airports started pursuing the private contractor alternative.

Subsequent to that, TSA revoked the private contractor alternative after last Thanksgiving, now making them the only game in town.

If the federal government uses the threat of shutting down Texas airports, it better be demonstrated that it was because they were unsafe, not because the safety was seen to by other means. Otherwise, it will be seen as being purely political.

-PJ

72 posted on 05/25/2011 11:40:52 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Everyone's Irish on St. Patrick's Day, Mexican on Cinco de Mayo, and American on Election Day.)
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To: devistate one four
Best site on the net!

Correct.

73 posted on 05/25/2011 11:42:14 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Roninf5-1

Time to cede from the union?

considering how nuts the feds have become policy-wise.. maybe it’s time to split, takeover northern mexico and drill baby drill..


74 posted on 05/25/2011 11:44:49 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: calex59
So you are saying, stupidly I might add, that we are only protected by the 4th if we are legally obligated to do something?

Incapable of polite discussion?

We are always protected by the 4A.

But if we want access to someone's private property (like, for example, one of Continental's planes), then they are entitled to say: "I won't let you in my plane until I'm sure you're not carrying contraband."

The 4A does not guarantee any supposed right to use or enter someone else's property.

Are we legally obligated to live in a house? If not then the 4th doesn't apply to us according to your idiotic thinking.

This statement doesn't really follow my thinking, but represents your own strained interpretation of my statement.

The obvious way to interpret my statement is that no one is obligated to enter my home (my personal property) and if they want to enter it, then I am entitled to set any legal ground rules I want for people wanting to enter my property.

You had it exactly backward.

75 posted on 05/25/2011 11:47:48 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: Roninf5-1
TX anti-TSA-groping bill is against federal law

Who would have ever thunk it? So groping American travels is lawful? Never thought I'd see the day......

76 posted on 05/25/2011 11:48:18 AM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: Ratman83
So per your reasoning the only way that we can travel is by foot because the gov can control anything else with the TSA and always search us.

Not in the slightest.

You realize, of course, that people have the right to own vehicles, to charter transportation for themsleves, etc.

77 posted on 05/25/2011 11:49:36 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake
It was ordered by a federal judge.

Is your argument that it isn't a 4th amendment violation if a governing body says it's not?

Have you heard of the Nuremberg defense? Or appeal to authority?

I'm pretty sure Santa Fe, NM high school students are entitled to attend prom without being groped.

Is your answer that they should all attend private school? Or would you grope them there as well?

78 posted on 05/25/2011 11:50:01 AM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: Roninf5-1; All

From Lone Star Report Blog

(Sen. Dan)Patrick claims Dewhurst reason for anti-TSA-groping bill’s failure

Written by: Andy Hogue
5/25/2011 12:08 AM

As the anti-TSA-groping bill was debated on the Senate floor today, Sen. Dan Patrick (R-Houston) learned he no longer had the 21 votes necessary to pass the bill.

He thought he had 30.

The reason for the drop in support, Patrick said, was Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst’s intervention — “peeling off the votes,” he called it. However, a spokesman for Dewhurst denied that was the case.

“There’s no one against this bill except for the federal government and our Lieutenant Governor, apparently,” Patrick, the bill’s Senate sponsor, said.

http://www.lonestarreport.org/Home/tabid/38/EntryId/1178/Patrick-claims-Dewhurst-reason-for-anti-TSA-groping-bills-failure.aspx


79 posted on 05/25/2011 11:51:12 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Get those keyboards and phone lines smoking.

The David Dewhurst Committee
P.O. Box 756
Austin, Texas 78767
campaign@teamdewhurst.com

Phone: 512.236.9798 Fax: 512.236.9797


80 posted on 05/25/2011 11:59:23 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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