Statement of Vanessa Guerena (wife of Marine killed by AZ SWAT.)

Arizona Daily Star ^ | May 27, 2011 | Fernanda Echavarri

[Fido969]

Victim's wife statemeet right after AZ SWAT kills her husband.

Part 2 at:

http://azstarnet.com/online/pdf/pdf_0955c118-8826-11e0-a691-001cc4c002e0.html

[Fido969]

The slimebags can spin this all day long, no matter what half-truths their lawyer spins, they're toast.

See page 31 to see what kind of fellow the victim was.

[Outlaw Woman]

bfl

[Fido969]

On Page 29 she talks about a SWAT team dropping a gun next to him when he is lying on the floor.

[Fido969]

Part 2 - page 14, the cops have advised her of her rights, and are trying to trip her up. They SAY they are conducting an investigation “trying to find out what happened.” but then they TELL HER no weapon was planted.

It looks like the cover-up has already started at that point.

[Fido969]

Part 2, page 28, she says she didn't know they were SWAT, but the interrogator interrupts her, and tries to plant the idea in her mind that she heard them yell “SWAT”. Under terrific stress she responds with the vague “Yeah, I guess.”

Looks like a cover-up, rather than a real investigation.

[Fido969]

Page 39 and 40 part 2.

The wife cleans the house, is close to her husband and has NO KNOWLEDGE of an AR-15 in the house.

Amazing!

[yldstrk]

She might know he has a gun, but why onearth would she know what kind?

And another thing, people are always trading guns, so maybe she hadn’t seen that particular one and had no freakin idea what the thing was

[Fido969]

She only knew he had a small revolver.

[Lurker]

So what? What difference does that make in regards to the cops actions?

I’ll tell you what difference it makes, absolutely none.

[bobaloobob]

So ...I wonder if they are doing this w/her counselor present? If she has no lawyer w/her it is all for nothing.

[Fido969]

They’ve advised her of her rights, and she has not said, from what I can see, anything that would incriminate her or her husband.

[bobaloobob]

This is true....but she needs a lawyer there w/her to make sure her rights are protected. Even though she has not been charged w/anything....they are interogating her. A statement is given by her to them to find out what she knows.

If they continually ask questions and making suggestions as to what she saw and did she really see that at all?....they are interogating her to find out if they can file any charges against her.She needs a lawyer there w/her.

[Fido969]

She was read her rights, and they were trying to (1) trip her up to saying something incriminating; and (2) TELL HER that the police yelled “SWAT!”, and that NO GUN WAS PLANTED.

She doesn’t fall for either trick.

[bobaloobob]

She’s not acting defensively to counter their questions....she’s just telling the truth and how it really was.

I saw something that I didn’t before. She claims one cop dropped a gun beside her husband. They’ve been known to cover their ass before....she’s never seen that ar15 before is what was said on this thread. But i didn’t read the whole trans..anyway...I’m hoping enough good guys are on this to decifer the truth.Where’s the videos...they did have videos didn’t they? Surely they did.

[Fido969]

Think about it - the cops thought they were being fired on - and they were WRONG.

That’s a pretty big error in observation.

So, if they imagined they were being fired on - couldn’t they have also imagined that the victims was pointing a weapon at them and saying “Say hello to my leetle friend!” or whatever it was that the cops thought they heard?

(The transcript of discussions by the cops makes it clear that they were NOT sure what they heard - more lies by the SWAT lawyer.)

Add that to fact that the wife: (1) didn’t know her husband had a rifle and (2) saw the SWAT guys drop a gun near her husband - and what does it start to look like?

[rawhide]

saw the SWAT guys drop a gun near her husband - and what does it start to look like?

Would not surprise me! The governor needs to take over this investigation. It may be too late, because of the coverup that has been going on.

[bobaloobob]

“So, if they imagined they were being fired on -”

the first piece I heard was that a cop unintendedly misfired his weapon and it hit the door frame where they were all huddled in a group as they all entered...and a chip of wood fell on a swat teams uniform in front of the group and thought the victum had fired at them ....which they said brought on the volley of fire power from their AR15 rifles. I wonder now if all the AR15’s that were accounted for or checked out by swat members ....were returned to the station they were checked out from....all have a serial #. If Jose had one...it had a number also assuming he was stait. So there would an extra one which was Jose’s.

If that woman did not know her husband had a gun of any kind and where he kept it? That would be a miracle in itself....being she had small children....myself and what we’ve just read....I’m gonna step out and say...it was a THROW DOWN!

[petitfour]

She says over and over again that the gun just showed up and that she didn’t know where it came from. She didn’t know of a hiding place. She didn’t know anything. They physically hurt her and claimed that that was procedure. They interrogated her before they read her her rights. They read her her rights and interrogated her again. They never gave her the search warrant or read what was in the search warrant.

It appears they were on a fishing expedition to get something on Jose’s brother or brothers. Jose had just worked three days of 12 hour shifts and was going to have three days off. She said he was so tired that he came home, showered and went to bed without eating. She took one child to school that morning while the other one was asleep with Jose. She parks in the driveway because their garage is full of furniture and other children’s things. Her mother-in-law lives with them and has furniture in the garage as well. The mother-in-law works at the casino which is within spittin’ distance of the neighborhood.

When the slimy lawyer spoke about the wife, he went on and on about how the wife called someone before she called 911. She tried to call her mother or mother-in-law because she was scared and did not know what to do. As in, she was not thinking clearly. When mother/m-i-l (don’t remember which one she said) did not answer, she called 911. She was so hysterical that she could not remember their address and thought she gave them the wrong address. (She says this to one of the cops who interrogated her. I think it was the first one who interrogated her without reading her her rights.) They detained her and did not read her her rights.

She was married to Jose for 8 years. She knew him since they were 5 years old. She is from Mexico and got her citizenship last year. She is not comfortable with her English speaking ability. She was studying for her GED at Pima because Jose thought she should get it. He was teaching her English so she would be able to deal with doctors and teachers and anyone else as needed. She said he did not do drugs and sounded believable to me in the transcript. She said he did drink occasionally but not often. She pretty much said he worked all he could including overtime so that they could afford nicer things. She said they had scrimped and saved to give their little boys a joint birthday party in March or April and that they had made a pinata together.

[maine-iac7]

I wonder if there had not been a 4 year old child in the house, there would no witness - but after over an hour after the shooting and not allowing medical help to enter - they couldn't figure out a way to to explain a dead kid too - so had to leave her alive...

[Texas Fossil]

OATH KEEPERS MUSTER

Sheriff Mack and Stewart Rhodes On The March

Vanessa Guerena

Oath Keepers will muster at Tucson, Arizona, on Memorial Day, May 30, 2011. target="_blank">

What – An Oath Keepers muster. Oath Keepers and friends will muster and march to the home of Mrs. Vanessa Guerena for a ceremony of memoriam for her late husband Jose Guerena, a U.S. Marine Corps veteran of the Iraq war.

When – 8:00 a.m. sharp Monday morning Memorial Day, May 30, 2011

Where - The intersection of West Valencia Road and South Wade Road. Take I-10 to I-19 South and exit West Valencia Road to South Wade Road, Tucson, Arizona. See below.

Who - Oath Keepers is calling for all veterans, National Guardsmen, active duty military, current-serving peace officers, firefighters, retired public servants, gun owners, veterans organizations, civic organizations, church groups, student groups, and other patriotic Americans.

Why – To stand with Oath Keepers at a memorial service for Jose Guerena, a war veteran who was killed by law-enforcement gunfire in his home on May 05, 2011. We wish to honor Jose Guerena’s service to this nation and ensure that his death lights the spark which shall lawfully undo present-day policies which militarize our local peace officers and violate our veterans’ and gun owners’ Fourth Amendment rights.

Press contact – Arizona Oath Keepers state chapter President Ray Epps: 480-586-5145. Backup Press contact – Elias Alias – 406-285-6597 * eliasalias@gmail.com

The public is cordially invited to march and stand with Oath Keepers for this ceremony. All who cannot attend are encouraged to do what you can on Memorial Day in your own communities. A great example of local activity is given us by the Pahrump, Nevada Oath Keepers chapter. Enjoy reading their Proclamation here:

http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2011/05/25/pahrump-oath-keepers-issue-proclamation/?cp=1#comment-29725

What you can do – Work with veterans and neighbors and community groups in your respective areas to ensure such Proclamations are brought before your local government officials and State officials. (You can do this anytime, it is not limited to only Memorial Day.)

*Work to establish oversight by your State government, your Attorney General, and your County Sheriffs’ offices to protect Fourth Amendment rights at the local level to provide accountability for intrusive police activities. Work to educate your neighbors and friends to the militarization of our local peace officers and help them see how such practices violate our Bill of Rights, including the Fourth Amendment. Recommend to your local government that police actions, especially S.W.A.T. activity, does not mimic the acts of criminals who execute home invasions. Remind everyone of the inherent dangers in accepting Federal funding and Federal training. Work to break the connection between Federal involvement and local control over our peace officer community. Educate everyone to the dangers in militarizing our local peace officers.

What we need from Tucson: Oath Keepers is seeking locally a volunteer drummer for this march, and a bugler for the ceremony. Oath Keepers would love to have a color guard from Tucson or Arizona, but we’ll take a color guard from wherever we can find one. If anyone wishes to volunteer to drum for this march, or to play taps on the bugle at the ceremony, please send us your message by going here – http://oathkeepers.org/oath/contact/ or call our Arizona Oath Keepers chapter President Ray Epps at 480-586-5145. Backup number 406-285-6597.

Oath Keepers will muster at 8:00 a.m. on the morning of Memorial Day, May 30, 2011, and will march at 8:30 a.m. to the home of Vanessa Guerena, the widow of Jose Guerena. Our procession will not permit late-comers to join after we begin the march, so make sure to be on time. Come early. Our march will begin at our rally point which is less than one mile from the Guerena home.

Our muster will be at the intersection of West Valencia Road and South Wade Road. Out of town marchers can find West Valencia Road by exiting Interstate I-19 just south of Interstate I-10 at the exit for West Valencia Road.

Upon arrival at the intersection of West Valencia Road and South Wade Road, please park on the South side of Valencia. We would like to ask all drivers to park by backing in, instead of parallel parking, so as to reduce the length of parked cars. Thank you for remembering to do that.

Oath Keepers will not permit the carrying or displaying of signs during our march and memorial service.

Flags may be carried and displayed. Those who have Oath Keepers gear are invited to wear Oath Keeper shirts and hats, patches and pins. We are planning a somber and reverent march, respectful of the departed young former Marine and war veteran, with sincere sympathy for his wife and children. There shall be another time and place for political expression.

Oath Keepers will conduct a brief ceremony on the lawn outside Mrs. Guerena’s house to honor her husband’s military service and all military and police who have paid the ultimate price for this country’s continued freedom. We will extend our sympathies to Mrs. Guerena, and then march back to our muster area.

Other activities will be announced when we return to our muster area. There each marcher will be given hand-out fliers with our afternoon schedule, which Oath Keepers will distribute to all who march with us.

Note - It is important that all who wish to participate with Oath Keepers on Memorial Day be present at 8:00 a.m. sharp, for that is how everyone will receive our announcements regarding the afternoon’s activities.

There will be afternoon speakers, including Stewart Rhodes, founder and President of Oath Keepers, Major (ret.) Rex McTyeire, U.S. Special Forces veteran and President of Oath Keepers’ South Carolina chapter, and Sheriff Richard Mack, former Sheriff from Arizona, among others. A number of Oath Keepers officers will be arriving from out of State.

The afternoon events will carry a political nature as Oath Keepers officially denounces the practice of deploying militarized SWAT teams to serve warrants on military veterans and gun owners who, like Jose Guerena, have no prior criminal record. Oath Keepers will inspire Americans to uphold the Fourth Amendment. Oath Keepers salutes our finest, our peace officers and our soldiers, with sincere gratitude for their service, but Oath Keepers stands against the Policy of using militarized SWAT units for routine law enforcement procedures.

We must take a stand against the use of SWAT or other militarized units against gun owners and veterans who have no violent crime history, and that stand needs to be a firm one. Come make a stand with us. Veterans, here is a place to stand for a righteous cause – bring your veteran groups and friends.

Therefore, Oath Keepers is going to rally to honor this young Marine’s military service in war in the morning hours, using this occasion to also honor all of America’s fallen heroes, and then move into other locations to express our opposition to the destruction of our liberty, our support of the Fourth Amendment as written, and our opposition to this policy of using SWAT teams to serve mere search warrants on gun owners and veterans who have no violent criminal record.

Here is a closing word from Stewart Rhodes, founder of Oath Keepers –

“What better way to honor our war dead and veterans this Memorial Day than to defend our Constitution and our God given rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, which is what they all fought, bled, and died for? This policy of using SWAT to serve search warrants on veterans and gun owners simply because they are armed, and where there is no long history of violent crime, has got to stop. I think taking a stand over the use of SWAT against this young Marine in Tucson is a good place to start.” – Stewart Rhodes

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