Posted on 05/27/2011 11:44:07 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
VIDEO AT LINK
A U.S. Marine who was killed when he was gunned down in his home near Tucson, Arizona, never fired on the SWAT team that stormed his house firing 70 times in a hail of bullets, a report has revealed.
The revelation came as dramatic footage of the shooting was released, showing the armed team pounding down the door of Jose Guerena's home and opening fire.
The father-of-two, who had served twice in Iraq, died on May 5 after the SWAT team descended on his home believing it was one of four houses associated with a drug smuggling operation.
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Provided they had a no knock warrant issued by a judge it was legal.
They have their guilt for the rest of their lives. May they have many sleepless nights.
I'm going to wait for all available facts before making a conclusion. Knowing standard procedure and their training would help, too.
“Those two cases have nothing to do with what happened in Tuscon.”
Sure they do. While the Tuscon case at least involved cops-with-a-warrant, it was still cops breaking into a house, albeit legally.
The RELEVANT cases I mentioned will only mean that MORE COP HOUSE BREAK INS WILL OCCUR now that warrants aren’t needed in those states. Thus, more needless murders like this will occur.
Stop defending our horrible SCOTUS. They’re a bunch of big-govt-loving Police Staters.
I agree but the court case will hinge on the AR-15 - not if it was safteyed or fired - but that it was "pointed" at the SWAT team.
This is a very unfortunate situation and both parties are cupable, IMO.
The actions of this team are indefensible!
Sure there was. How else is a disgrace of a man with feelings inadequatecies supposed to feel superior unless he weilds a gun and takes out "thugs" under the cover of law. If these "men" had any honor they would come forward admit their cupability and accept the punishment that society would give them. Instead they lie, they conspire to cover it up. That in itself proves the bad intentions of these low-life scum, big man wannabes.
The gubment and their jack-booted scum will keep pushing until there is a reaction that they will not be able to control and it will have very dire consequences.
>>Provided they had a no knock warrant issued by a judge it was legal. <<
Ah, the trusty “Nuremberg defense.”
“WE WERE JUST FOLLOWING ORDERS.”
People like you are what’s wrong with America.
I’m not going to defend anyone who acted illegally or who deviated significantly from policy or their training.
You defend the jackbooted thugs when they murder an innocent American?
Do you defend them for preventing the ambulances from arriving for over an hour, while he bled to death in his own home?
If you had any decency, you would be ashamed of yourself. Absolutely disgusting and shameful. I hope you are not an American.
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Moonman’s either a cop of a lover of the Big Gov’t Police State. No real conservative defends a bunch of !@$!#@ murdering jack-booted thug cops who gundown veterans (or any other American citizens)
I didn't know a warrant was a license to kill....
For added humor, get a load of the idiot with the ballistic shield flopping on the ground after his teammates run him over. I've seen more discipline from paintball teams. You are defending the indefensible....
The ruling in Indiana brings them into line with a majority of states, so you must certainly have data from those states to back up your claim.
Stop defending our horrible SCOTUS. They’re a bunch of big-govt-loving Police Staters.
Did you bother to read their decision so you could understand their reasoning?
“At first, the SWAT team had said Mr Guerena fired first, but then they retracted that statement, saying he had left the safety on.”
Care to defend that? They were caught in a lie.
When you’re not confident in your position attack the other person.
>> You defend the jackbooted thugs when they murder an innocent American? <<
I can’t tell you how many descriptions I’ve read of this which make no mention of the fact that he had a weapon in his hand, pointed at the police. Do you really think there’s any way the police could’ve known it wasn’t loaded or had the safety on?
It’s a tragedy. It’s not murder. It possibly should cause some reform of police procedure; If the amount of drugs is so low that someone COULD dispose of them down the toilet in one flush, there was no basis for the raid in the first place. Unfortunately, with so many hystrionics about this, there’s very little in substance for reasonable reform being spoken about.
The greatest problem I have is that after a mortal injury, rescue workers were not permitted on the scene.
Some claims they made turned out not to be true. What matters is the available facts and whether their actions turn out to be legal, which may possibly be determined in court.
People breaking into a home do not have the right of self defense.
“I’m not going to defend anyone who acted illegally or who deviated significantly from policy or their training.”
So as long as they were following orders it doesn’t matter what they do?
That's a hell of a way to be "serving the warrant."
Used to be someone knocked on your door and handed you a piece of paper. Now they come with full-auto weapons wearing body armor and bash your door in.
These (easily frightened and poorly trained) fools are more geared up "serving the warrant" on a citizen in America than U.S. soldiers are killing terrorists in the Mideast.
I suppose you see nothing wrong with that?
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