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The Myth of Killer Mercury
Wall Street Journal Online ^ | May 25, 2011 | Willie Soon

Posted on 05/29/2011 10:31:28 AM PDT by I got the rope

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To: I got the rope

DiHydrogen Monoxide is much more dangerous than mercury. Here’s proof: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi3erdgVVTw


61 posted on 05/30/2011 12:35:33 AM PDT by Impala64ssa
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To: Impala64ssa

Stuff ‘ll kill you in solid, liquid or gaseous states, and fish have sex in it... Stick with alcohol.


62 posted on 05/30/2011 1:32:17 AM PDT by jonascord (The Drug War Rapes the Constitution.)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
90% of the anti comments are written by the duty WSJ watcher, some progressive drooler named Peterson. He's the Party apparatchik who is assigned to attack anything that calls into question the Official Government Truth.He's responding to ANY support of the article with the standard invective, personal attacks and lies. You know, a Good Democrat.
63 posted on 05/30/2011 1:55:27 AM PDT by jonascord (The Drug War Rapes the Constitution.)
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To: I got the rope

That’s what FReepers are for. Whenever some dizzy lib talks to me about any science I toss in hormesis. They’ve never heard of it. Go look it up and get back to me. They never get back to me.


64 posted on 05/30/2011 3:51:06 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: I got the rope

Danged hippy, pinko-commie, running-dog, anti-American, anti-capitalist, fear-mongers. Everyone in their right minds knows mercury is good for you, especially for babies and kids.


65 posted on 05/30/2011 6:11:53 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: 1010RD

“Whenever some dizzy lib talks to me about any science I toss in hormesis. They’ve never heard of it. Go look it up and get back to me. They never get back to me.”

So how does hormesis explain growing infertility in fish and the growing number of deformaties in frogs from all the toxins we are pouring into the environment.


66 posted on 05/30/2011 6:41:58 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer; 1010RD
So how does hormesis explain growing infertility in fish and the growing number of deformaties [sic] in frogs from all the toxins we are pouring into the environment.

The "environment" has always been a toxic slough of chemicals, basically because that's all nature and the environment is. And I guess you missed this from the Ecological Society of America:
"In recent years, the frequency of malformed frogs, toads, salamanders and other amphibians found with missing limbs, extra limbs, and skin webbings has increased. The shrinking populations of many North American amphibian populations underscore the need to understand the causes and implications of this phenomenon. Now a new study suggests that a parasite may be to blame for many of the abnormalities found in amphibians of the western United States

...The group looked at the relationships between the frequency and severity of abnormalities and a variety of factors in a particular aquatic site, including the abundance of a parasite (Ribeiroia) and pesticide contamination. The collaborative and interdisciplinary effort, which included academic researchers, as well as federal scientists from the U.S. Geological Survey and the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Survey, found malformed amphibians at a wide variety of aquatic sites, ranging from mountain lakes and ephemeral pools to irrigation canals and impoundments. While the researchers did not find a relationship between pesticides and the frequency of malformed amphibians, they did find a striking connection between malformed amphibians and the presence of Ribeiroia ..."
Of course, still wanting a human connection in the "having their cake and eating it, too" sense, they speculated that fertilizers could have caused proliferation of snails and parasites, thus resulting in amphibian limb deformities.
67 posted on 05/30/2011 7:07:08 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: kittymyrib

“If mercury is so dangerous, why is the government requiring that we bring it into our homes in these stupid cfl bulbs?”

1) Mercury poisoning.
2) Global warming.

They probably figure mercury poisoning is the lesser of two evils.


68 posted on 05/30/2011 7:20:12 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

“40 years ago we used to play with mercury in science class. Being the only metal that was liquid at room temperature was very cool. As far as I know, I’m still alive.”

I know a 70 year old thats been smoking cigarettes for 50 years. That must mean smoking isn`t unhealthy, right?


69 posted on 05/30/2011 7:23:41 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: I got the rope

If mercury is so dangerous, why is it still legal to use it in dental fillings?


70 posted on 05/30/2011 7:26:44 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their President is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: I got the rope

Blame that racist turd who heads EPA— Lisa Jackson
This is hate whitey in action. Oppress the productive sectors which are 97% white and Asian owned. A triumph for the affirmative action sector layabouts in the Federal Government of Obama and Lisa Jackson

Rip off American households via higher electricity rates all to eliminate a bit of mercury


71 posted on 05/30/2011 7:49:14 AM PDT by dennisw (NZT - "works better if you're already smart")
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To: kittymyrib

I was talking to my wife about that just yesterday. Why on Earth would the EPA require or even encourage us to use a product that is as dangerous as they claim a CFL to be? It is absurd.


72 posted on 05/30/2011 8:55:28 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a liberal is like teaching algebra to a tomcat.)
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To: Nonsense Unlimited

I still think bicycle helmets look gay.


73 posted on 05/30/2011 11:12:56 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: 1010RD

I generally go home twice a year on vacation. The CFL bulb in my patio ceiling fans is ALWAYS burned out when I get there. I have never had one last 6 months. Nobody local carries that particular type of bulb so I have to order them online. I believe I paid $20 or so for 5 of them last time. I will be replacing that fixture with a normal incandescent one at some point.


74 posted on 05/30/2011 11:34:27 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: chessplayer

Same for ethanol. We know it causes MORE pollution in the form of NOx...but because it benefits the planet because of global warming...we are mandated to use it.


75 posted on 05/30/2011 11:55:22 AM PDT by I got the rope
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To: greeneyes

You hit it dead on. Landfills are next...and from what I am reading the amount of methylmercury coming from landfills is HUGE!


76 posted on 05/30/2011 11:56:42 AM PDT by I got the rope
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To: Right Wing Assault

You are right to point out is was a poisoning. Methyl mercury was being dumped in HUGE amounts into the waters of Minamata, Japan, from industrial processes.

The Minamata disease/hypothesis needs further testing. I personally do not believe that methylmercury was the cause of the deaths and deformaties we are seeing. MeHg is supposed to be a neurotoxin right? Why are we seeing deformities. This points to other organics that I know were found in the waters in Minamata.
Cyanide was also found in the waters and fish. The list of organics is very long. I will post it later.


77 posted on 05/30/2011 12:02:33 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: chessplayer

You’re breathing it in right now. Go outside and pickup some soil. Analyze it if you wish. You will see concentrations so high it would literally take a coal fired power plant 9,000 to 14,000 years at the max deposition rates to put that much mercury in the soil.

Methylmercury accumalation in fish has nothing to do with power plants. You can’t even see the power plants mercury concentrations in the air...it’s all noise.


78 posted on 05/30/2011 12:07:51 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: Carry_Okie

If that was true, regulations wouldn’t drive producers into bankruptcy,

Oh PLEASE! Regulations drive producers into bankruptcy because the same product is made elsewhere for less.
You can’t import electricity from China and your cite of the indifference curve betrays a lack of acumen concerning a commodity that consumers cannot do without, although they can curtail.
Users on the grid will pay all or more than they can bear until they sit in the dark.

I suggest that you brush up on logical thought. - and read the article again.


79 posted on 05/30/2011 2:17:19 PM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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Oh PLEASE! Regulations drive producers into bankruptcy because the same product is made elsewhere for less.

Do you act the screaming idiot just so that people won't bother replying and you can feel like you "won"?

Sheesh.

You still don't understand the substitution effect.

You can’t import electricity from China and your cite of the indifference curve betrays a lack of acumen concerning a commodity that consumers cannot do without, although they can curtail.

Sure you can. It would just cost a lot. In some cases it's worth it, seeing as we import electricity from China right now stored in batteries.

Users on the grid will pay all or more than they can bear until they sit in the dark.

You forgot "use less," thus illustrating your basic lack of comprehension of a simple demand curve. Then there is "use something else." A classic example in the electrical market is when people substitute natural gas to heat their domestic hot water when electrical prices rise and heating water with electricity is too expensive (a good example of the substitution effect, BTW). The point of indifference is that price beyond which they will make the change.

Seeing as I've written a book on the topic of regulatory corruption and what to do about it, there may not be another FREeper who knows more about the corrupt economics of regulatory government.

If you want a better understanding of regulatory racketeering in the electrical market, I suggest you read this. Maybe you'll even figure out who wrote it.

80 posted on 05/30/2011 6:05:43 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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