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To: livius

You’re right, but I think the EU ship has sailed and it won’t stop in Turkey. Fifty years from now we may look at it as fateful that Turkey didn’t make it into the EU. It could have been a positive turning point solidifying Ataturk’s revolution and normalizing Turkey.

Instead the Islamists moved into the vacuum and it appears Turkey is rapidly turning East and to its past. That means war.

If Turkey enters the EU in the face of Europe’s sudden awareness of the Muslim & Socialist threat (they’ve moved right and sharply in recent elections), there really is a global conspiracy controlling world events.


13 posted on 05/30/2011 4:54:51 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD
If Turkey enters the EU in the face of Europe’s sudden awareness of the Muslim & Socialist threat (they’ve moved right and sharply in recent elections), there really is a global conspiracy controlling world events.

I think that's a good point, and I don't think we're paying enough attention to the situation in Turkey. There was some examination of it a few years ago, as Islamism started to gain there, but I think it's now in its Trojan horse phase and looking normal while everything is really just going ahead quietly and in stealth.

I also think that the glories of the Arab Spring (such as Al Qaeda taking over Yemen) are going to give Turkey, which is viciously aggressive, a chance to present itself as a peaceful, stabilizing force. It never has been and it never will be; it is the most dangerous army of Islam, IMHO, and we seem to have forgotten its arrival at the gates of Vienna.

15 posted on 05/30/2011 5:03:12 AM PDT by livius
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