Queen concerned that United Kingdom will be broken up

The Telegraph ^ | 5/30/2011 | Simon Johnson

[bruinbirdman]

The Queen has indicated her concern the United Kingdom will be broken up in the wake of Alex Salmond’s landslide election victory in Scotland.

The monarch is understood to have expressed her anxiety about the Scottish National Party’s plan for an independence referendum during her weekly meeting with David Cameron at Buckingham Palace.

Palace officials have asked Downing Street to provide a constitutional expert to advise on how the referendum will be staged and the dismantling of the UK in the event of a ‘yes’ vote.

Mr Salmond, the SNP party leader, has previously moved to reassure the Royal Family and sceptical Scots by arguing that the Queen would remain head of state in Scotland following separation.

But a source close to Mr Cameron told a Sunday newspaper the monarch’s commitment to the 304-year-old Union between England and Scotland remained strong.

Although she cannot be seen to express a personal opinion, she is said to be concerned at the prospect of Britain being broken up during her reign.

“She has always been very clear about the United Kingdom and you just have to look at the way the Royal Family are committed to Scotland to see that,” the source said.

As far back as 1977, when the Labour Government was proposing Scottish devolution, she appeared to suggest she was concerned about the ramifications for the Union.

In a remark interpreted as criticism of home rule, she told MPs: “I cannot forget I was crowned Queen of the United Kingdom.”

A senior Buckingham Palace source confirmed the monarch discussed with Mr Cameron the ramifications of this month’s Scottish Parliament election. “Regardless of Her Majesty’s personal views, it is the job of her private secretary to take these issues seriously and to investigate them, and that’s precisely

[Verginius Rufus]

If Scotland resumes its independence, does the Queen become Queen of Scotland as a separate title, or do the Scots pick a different monarch (the obvious one would be the head of the House of Wittelsbach, who have the best genealogical claim going back to the Stuarts), or does Scotland become a republic?

Or maybe they could become the fifth maritime province of Canada, which already has a Nova Scotia--they could call themselves Vetus Scotia.

[sauropod]

That’s true. My understanding is that a lot of the state support in the UK goes to Scotland. I’m not arguing with you over that.

I’m just saying, as someone that feels his ancestry very keenly, that I really believe Scotland would be better off to be out of the UK.

[rmlew]

Shut up you German hag. Seriously, this imbred import has spent her career worrying more about her role in the Commonwealth and giving Rhodesia to the communists than about "her own" subjects. The truth is that under her, Britain is being invaded and has applauded it. She is a female figurehead Vortigern. (If you don't know British history, do look up Vortigern. The tale of that traitor king is no longer taught)

As for the SNP, they are a bunch of socialists €false nationalists. The extent of their "nationalism" is a desire to get all the revenue from North Atlantic oil rather than sharing it, and to be their own state/subject nation of the EU. Were they actual nationalists, they would say something about immigration. Instead, they like the dependence and dispossession it causes, as their entire raison d'etre is grievance politics and greed.

[Winniesboy]

I’d even go further and dump the Queen and either re-establish the Scottish monarchy ,,,,,

The Queen is the Scottish monarch. Ever since the Union of he Crowns in 1603, the Monarch has been no less and no more King or Queen of Scotland than King or Queen of England. It would be perfectly possible for an independent Scotland to retain the Queen as Head of State (as has, of course, happened with several other countries).

[Scotsman will be Free]

“I’m just saying, as someone that feels his ancestry very keenly, that I really believe Scotland would be better off to be out of the UK.”
Only if they became a conservative country. Otherwise they will simply trod down the same worn out socialist path as England. What’s the point?

[sauropod]

Pride of country?

[the scotsman]

a—we do.
b—we can, any Argie attack now would never get off the beach.

[the scotsman]

Not all of us.

[Zionist Conspirator]

I applaud the entirety of your post #43! With one possible exception.

If Vortigern had not invited the Angles, Saxons, and Jutes to Britain, England and the English language would never have existed in the first place.

[Zionist Conspirator]

Not all of us.

And thank G-d for that!

[Cronos]

I remember once reading that the Scots would prefer Princes Anne as their queen — she kind of looks like them.... :-P

[Cronos]

I lived in the UK for years in the early 2000s and actually Scots are less religious than the English and I know the facts say lesser numbers of Moslems, but I saw quite a few around the towns

[Cronos]

I agree with wideawake — the Scots I saw in the cities and even the villages up to SKye were extremely leftists and nearly all that I saw or met were anti-American

[Cronos]

well, the reason for that is that England utterly conquered the Celtic folks, utterly. Welsh and Scottish and Gaelic were banned in the latter 1800s and some nearly went extent (think Manx or Cornish)

England is now 80%+ of the population and my guess is that there are more "Scots" in England than in Scotland. Ditto for the Welsh. The perils of Empire -- the first English Empire was in the British Isles before spreading to the rest of the world.

[Cronos]

Concise and precise history. One other interesting thing is that in various councils in Europe, the English were still classified as a Germanic nation until the late 1400s.

I used to love telling my English colleagues when they would play Germany and change "2 world wars and 1 world cup" that the royal family was more German than anything! The house of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha.

Also, I would love to tell them that for 200 years from William the Conqueror, their kings spoke only French and many, including Richard the Lionheart were born in France and died and were buried in France

And then that George I and II spoke only German etc. etc.

I was pretty popular ;-P (though in fairness to me, I do make fun of my own nationality and the English love the habit of "taking the p***" out of someone -- no thin skins like in some parts of the US

[Cronos]

imho, the best scots moved out of Scotland centuries ago. Now there’s just vainglory patriotism - they wave William Wallace, but they don’t speak Gaelic, many are just fake “Scots” in Scotland imho

[Cronos]

“the tale of the...” — British school education standards have dropped drastically. They no longer even know about their own history... And I saw quite a few of the schools there and the next generation of Brits will be third-world status while their former colonies in Asia become 2nd world or 1st..

[Cronos]

That’s good to know. But what is your take on this entire independence thing?

[thecodont]

Sorry to be such a fussbudget, but I could not help but notice the lady in blue behind Prince Philip with her mouth agape. Either she’s yelling or she’s yawning, and if she’s yawning, she should be covering her mouth.

[the scotsman]

50,000 in Scotland.

Mostly in/around Glasgow and Edinburgh, or the bigger towns of the west coast south of Glasgow ie Ayrshire (Ayr, Kilmarnock).