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Retired Col.: Military is 'Pulling Rug Out from Under' Chaplains by Not Enforcing DOMA (w/Video)
CNSNews ^ | May 31, 2011 | Pete Winn

Posted on 05/31/2011 9:58:18 AM PDT by jazusamo

Washington (CNSNews.com) - A former combat officer and military chaplain says this Memorial Day leaves him concerned about military chaplains, who currently face the threat of a military that is rushing headlong to introduce homosexuality and same-sex marriage into the armed services -- and an administration that is ignoring the federal Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA).

“(H)ere we are as a nation, pulling the rug out from under soldiers -- really, is what we’re doing -- and commanders to really defend this nation,” said Bishop John Neal, head of the International Communion of Evangelical Churches.

Neal, a retired Army colonel, said the military’s push to open up military chapels to same-sex marriage ceremonies will drain the military of chaplains and soldiers who do not believe that homosexuality is compatible with military service.

Neal pointed out that our all-volunteer military "has a long history of discrimination" -- and must discriminate in order to carry out its mission.

“Hear me, what I’m saying about discrimination -- we discriminate,” Neal said. “I can’t tell you how many fat soldiers I put out of the Army. They were patriotic; they loved their country; they had a good heart. But it would cause damage to my mission (for them to remain.) So you can be 7-ft. tall and want to fly a fighter jet – (but) we discriminate, because we are not going to change the billion dollar equipment. We get what we need to fit the mission.”

Neal was part of a group of pastors and former military chaplains who went to Capitol Hill last Thursday to call on the Senate to approve a set of amendments to the Defense authorization bill that re-affirm that DOMA applies to the military. The federal law defines marriage, for the purposes of the federal government, to mean the union of one man and one woman.

VIDEO 2:51 minutes

 The group, which was led by Bishop Harry Jackson of the High Impact Leadership Coalition, said the administration’s preparations to remove the military ban on homosexuality – and its refusal to enforce DOMA -- have left military chaplains in danger of being compromised.

“No American, especially those serving in the armed forces, should be forced to abandon or to be marginalized based upon his or her religious beliefs,” Jackson told reporters.

He agreed that not enforcing DOMA “could be something that would drive some chaplains out of the military altogether.”

“We’re calling for the Christian community to contact their senators and let them know that we support DOMA as it stands. And until it is changed by due process of law, it should not be circumvented by political sleight of hand,” Jackson said.

The amendments, sponsored by Reps. Todd Akin (R-Mo.), Vicki Hartlzer (R-Mo. ) and Duncan Hunter (R-Calif.), were prompted by a directive issued in April by the Navy’s chief of chaplains saying that Navy chapels could be used for same-sex marriages in states where those unions are legal.

The chief of chaplains, Rear Admiral Michael Tidd, also said that Navy chaplains would not be forced to perform same-sex ceremonies, but if they objected, they would have to refer homosexual couples to clergymen who would perform the ceremonies.

In early May, Akin, the chairman of the Seapower subcommittee of the House Armed Services Committee, and 22 other congressmen fired back with a letter to Navy Secretary Ray Mabus, reminding him that DOMA is the law of the land.

Though the Navy subsequently placed the policy on hold, pending legal review, Akin introduced his amendment to codify that DOMA does apply to the military.

Bishop Neal, meanwhile, said there are many chaplains who oppose the change to the military ban on homosexuality, but who will not get the chance to speak up because they are still in the service. Soldiers, he said, take an oath and give up some of their rights.

“I heard Gen. Carl Mundy, the 30th Marine Corps chief, say it this way: ‘We have to salute with total reverence with one hand, but with another hand tied behind our backs.’ Because just to volunteer, you take away our freedoms -- because we can’t be here to talk to Capitol Hill, we can’t talk to our boss,” he said. “But I’m asking the people of America to stand up and speak for us.”

Though military chaplains can't speak up while serving, the Alliance Defense Fund, a conservative Christian legal group, will sue on their behalf if the Senate does not pass the House-approved amendments, according to ADF Senior Counsel Austin Nimocks, who appeared alongside the pastors.

“The Alliance Defense Fund will pursue legal action if viable legal action becomes available, and if the Senate does not follow the House and protect service members, we have no doubt that legal action will be required. This is an irreconcilable conflict – and the Senate has to reconcile this,” Nimocks said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chaplains; dadt; doma; homosexualagenda; military; obama

1 posted on 05/31/2011 9:58:21 AM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

I was wrong. I would have bet good money that by now - some chaplain somewhere would have been discliplined for being intolerant against the gays in the military.

No matter that they were standing up for their Christian beliefs... If those Christian values conflict with Obama’s new gay friendly policies, then something’s gotta give.

But trust me. There will be a showdown soon. Some Christian chaplain will be court-martialed.


2 posted on 05/31/2011 10:07:45 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (I'm a Birther - And a Deather)
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To: jazusamo

Perhaps, it is time for a mass exodus of Christian clergy from the military. They forced that upon our public schools and look how that turned out. Perhaps the military needs to hit rock bottom too before it can be fixed. I'd be all for it, but for the fact that we have a private option to keep some portion of our children educated while the public option is fixed. We do not have a private military to keep America safe from her enemies. Hitting rock bottom in the military is highly dangerous...


3 posted on 05/31/2011 10:14:58 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: Responsibility2nd

It wouldn’t surprise me either.

The idiocy of Obama, Gates, Mullen and Ray Mabus put all military Chaplains but especially Navy Chaplains in a terrible position, there was absolutely no excuse for it.

Just because Obama says they won’t enforce DOMA doesn’t make it any less a law. A prime example of idiots running the asylum.


4 posted on 05/31/2011 10:15:29 AM PDT by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: so_real

As dedicated as military Chaplains are it’ll be a mighty tough call for them to make.


5 posted on 05/31/2011 10:17:30 AM PDT by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

If DADT is repealed, we will fundamentally transform this nation to a pagan/atheist one, which is incompatible with a nation whose rights come from God, where the ideas of Universal Truth arrive along with reason and logic.

Just Law is rational law and so, is aligned with Natural Law Theory and this can not go against the design of man and women, and the purpose of civil society and nature. It will create laws not based on anything other than emotions and political power and “desires”—arbitrary law—Legal Positivism, which destroys the Rule of Law. There are Universal Truths and it is the foundation of the US and taught in the schools until Dewey forced moral relativism following infiltration of elite universities with socialists from Europe. The filth from the Rhine flowed throughout Europe and finally planted itself in America with Dewey who destroyed knowledge and historical truth and real scholarship.

This disregard for natural law destroyed the Republic of Rome-—read Cicero—but the marxist in chief and the useful idiots have been trying to destroy American hegemony earnestly since 1912.

Morality and Tradition are essential to a civil society— They are trying to destroy all tradition and sexual morality which will destroy children by replacing models of virtue with narcissism and idolatry which can lead only to tyranny. This deconstruction is intentional.


6 posted on 05/31/2011 10:21:02 AM PDT by savagesusie
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To: jazusamo

No offense to to any military Chaplin’s out there, but I don’t know how any Christian minister could join or stay in an organization that forces them to put man’s law before Gods. The pro-government types love to quote the verse ,”Give onto Caesar, that which is Caesars...” but they conveniently forget the second half, which is “Give onto God that which is Gods.” By claiming to be a Christian minister and then altering your message to conform to the laws or regulations of government,(such as condoning or even failing to condemn gay marriage), you are getting perilously close to “Giving onto Caesar, that which is Gods.”


7 posted on 05/31/2011 10:52:38 AM PDT by apillar
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To: apillar
No offense to to any military Chaplin’s out there, but I don’t know how any Christian minister could join or stay in an organization that forces them to put man’s law before Gods.

You are correct. A pro-homosexual organization (like the U.S. Armed Forces) has no need of chaplains anyway.

8 posted on 05/31/2011 11:57:17 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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