Why 2012 election looks a lot like 1860

Dakota Voice ^ | June 4, 2011 | Star Parker

[PeaRidge]

Yes, most of us know that you are a suspicious personality.

[rockrr]

You mean that I have a "suspicious personality"? Perhaps I do - especially around fools and lunatics.

[PeaRidge]

I think you have been told before that you resort to ad hominum (personal and negative) attacks when you run out of either facts or imagination.

Also known as the ‘screaming ninnie’ syndrome.

I will try to supply you with a new topic so you can say something worthwhile.

[rockrr]

Try looking in a mirror sometime.

[PeaRidge]

Brilliant! Just like David Puddy saying to Elaine, “I'll tell you what is stupid......(he frowns and says) You....(frowning)...stupid!

Elaine: “Oh, that is really mature”.

Puddy: “You're.....(frowning)....mature!”

Has looking in the mirror helped you?

[rockrr]

It amuses me that the irony of your comments escapes you.

[PeaRidge]

The irony of your postings was the topic of my last one.

Stop being repetitive.

[rockrr]

Sorry if pointing out what a one trick phony you are offends you.

[PeaRidge]

I have a trick. Maybe, two or more. Where’s yours?

[af_vet_rr]

Stupidity on your part, sheer stupidity, you standing in judgment of not just George Mason but all the Founders. All history and all the world should’ve turned on a dime after some single, particular flashpoint, according to you. It’s all symbolic, everybody “should’ve known” and hindsight makes perfect, according to you.

Sorry for not getting to this earlier, was on vacation and had no internet access.

Look, the very people you and I are discussing knew it was wrong, and that is why I criticize them over the issue of slavery. They created the greatest nation in the world and the greatest form of government, and they knew that this nation they were creating was going to have trouble over the issue. They said it was wrong - there is no hindsight involved, their words are clear and they talked about it being wrong time and time again. These were not unknown men - these were men like Patrick Henry, John Adams, George Washington, George Mason, even Thomas Jefferson. They had an amazing capacity to predict what would happen. George Mason, more than anybody else, said time and again that it was wrong, and that God would punish the United States over it. Just a few short generations later, one out of every 23 Americans lay dead, wounded, or ill on battlefields and in hospitals.

While Thomas Paine was discussing the Revolution when he said "If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace", his words eerily applied to the issue, as they have applied to many other things that have come up in our nation's history. Even today, there are things happening that we fail to act upon, that we know are going to cause problems for our children or their children. All too often we push such issues off to the next generation because we find them inconvenient. It happens to the best and brightest.

If you want to respond, great, but I probably won't respond back, at least for a few weeks, as I took on a short contract that has me dealing with a 2-hour commute and I have very little time for FReep, so I'll let you have the last word. Mock me, call me an idiot, whatever you want.

[RegulatorCountry]

Your reply sounds much more cogent and knowledgable than those of yours from earlier in this same thread, that prompted my outburst, af_vet_rr.

You’d never even heard of George Mason prior to that point, and now you’re citing him.

I call that progress. I suggest, however, that you let this thread die rather than attempting to recover yet again. It’s rather embarassing for you.

[TexConfederate1861]

As a Texan, allow me to state that the LAST person we need is Gov. BIGHAIR Perry!!!

[BelegStrongbow]

I’ve read The Republic and I find it to be a long essay in support of what amounts to today’s therapeutic government. I do not support Plato in that at all (I am quite a fan of some of his dialogues, however).

I fail to see how reading The Republic would correct BillyBoy.

[BelegStrongbow]

In a Gallup poll of several weeks ago, 52 percent said that neither political party adequately represents the American people and that we need a third party. Of the 52 percent, 68 percent were Independents, 52 percent Republicans, and 33 percent Democrats.

Very charitable of everyone not to comment on the second sentence here. I think what the writer actually meant was:

"68% of Independents, 52% of Republicans and 33% of Democrats made up the 52% who feel they are not represented by either party."

When you look at it that way, it's no wonder at all why Republican political leaders do so poorly legislatively: they simply don't have a constituency that projects a sufficiently consistent set of policies. The Democrats have no such problem (they're just depraved and extortionate, but that's another question).

[PeaRidge]

He might learn that a Republican form of government is superior to the tyrannies of an oligarchy and a democracy.