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The Great Little Madison - In office, the Father of the Constitution turned from ideas to...
City Journal ^
| Spring 2011
| Myron Magnet
Posted on 06/07/2011 6:54:23 PM PDT by neverdem
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posted on
06/07/2011 6:54:26 PM PDT
by
neverdem
To: neverdem; Publius; Billthedrill
Of possible interest to the Federalist Papers pinglist?
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posted on
06/07/2011 6:58:10 PM PDT
by
Don W
(You can forget what you do for a living when your knees are in the breeze.)
To: neverdem
Madison was Hamilton’s bitch.
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posted on
06/07/2011 6:58:20 PM PDT
by
Huck
(The Antifederalists were right.)
To: neverdem
What prudent merchant will hazard his fortunes in any new branch of commerce when he knows not that his plans may be rendered unlawful before they can be executed?
- James Madison
By rendering the labor of one, the property of the other, they cherish pride, luxury, and vanity on one side; on the other, vice and servility, or hatred and revolt.
- James Madison
All men having power ought to be distrusted to a certain degree.
- James Madison
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posted on
06/07/2011 7:08:09 PM PDT
by
cripplecreek
(Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
To: cripplecreek
Conceiving that an individual independence of the States is utterly irreconcileable with their aggregate sovereignty; and that a consolidation of the whole into one simple republic would be as inexpedient as it is unattainable, I have sought for some middle ground, which may at once support a due supremacy of the national authority, and not exclude the local authorities wherever they can be subordinately useful. --James Madison
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posted on
06/07/2011 7:22:38 PM PDT
by
Huck
(The Antifederalists were right.)
To: Huck
Yeah, they didn’t all agree but I’m glad it was that particular group who hammered out the details.
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posted on
06/07/2011 7:25:38 PM PDT
by
cripplecreek
(Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
To: neverdem
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posted on
06/07/2011 7:30:19 PM PDT
by
mrsmith
To: cripplecreek
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posted on
06/07/2011 7:32:04 PM PDT
by
Huck
(The Antifederalists were right.)
To: 14themunny; 21stCenturion; 300magnum; A Strict Constructionist; abigail2; AdvisorB; Aggie Mama; ...
Excellent article by Myron Magnet.
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posted on
06/07/2011 7:37:39 PM PDT
by
Publius
To: Publius
Yes it is - I started it but it's a long read - I'll save it for when I have some time - at work. Thanks for the ping, Publius!
Lamh Foistenach Abu!
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posted on
06/07/2011 7:42:43 PM PDT
by
ConorMacNessa
(HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines, RVN '69 - St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle!)
To: Publius
At other times, he willingly embraced the doctrine of implied powers himself. Of course he did. He knew exactly what the necessary and proper clause meant. He was a political creature. His record is full of flip-flops and incoherence. In the end, he did more harm to liberty than good.
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posted on
06/07/2011 7:45:58 PM PDT
by
Huck
(The Antifederalists were right.)
To: Publius
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posted on
06/07/2011 7:57:55 PM PDT
by
SunTzuWu
To: Joe 6-pack
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posted on
06/07/2011 8:03:57 PM PDT
by
definitelynotaliberal
(There is no native criminal class except Congress. Mark Twain)
To: Publius
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posted on
06/07/2011 8:06:03 PM PDT
by
definitelynotaliberal
(There is no native criminal class except Congress. Mark Twain)
To: neverdem
Thanks for the Wee Jemmy ping
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posted on
06/07/2011 8:11:24 PM PDT
by
Oratam
To: Don W; neverdem
Many thanks for the ping. An absolutely wonderful piece. Always did think that Dolley - apparently I've been misspelling it all these years - was a force of nature. Can you imagine knowing the first 12 Presidents personally?
The lesson of Madison's Presidency is the importance for the Chief Executive to build a reliable, competent staff, a lesson the present occupant of the Oval Office is, for all his storied although undemonstrated intellect, incapable of exercising. His predecessor, for all his storied although little proven insufficiencies, did quite a bit better, thank God. Jemmy Madison learned it the hard way.
I am not quite so severe as the author in criticizing the evolution of Madison's political thought - it was, after all, a perfect illustration of the contrast between political theory and practical politics. Very few people, including Jefferson, can dance with Madison in respect to the former in my opinion; the latter might be best (if at all) excused as an expression of the still nascent nature of American government. If one cringes at the vision of Jefferson receiving the British envoy in his bedroom attire, how much more can one ache in embarrassment at the antics of the present President bowing and scraping like a third-rate actor playing a fourth-rate butler? American government has grown up in the succeeding two centuries; it is a pity that its occupants have not.
A terrific piece, and many thanks to Neverdem for posting it. Lots to think about. Napoleon, for one - the fellow who sold us half of our country (at the time) was defeated and imprisoned by the time the British had decided they'd had enough of war for awhile and negotiated peace in 1814; by February of the next year he would once more explode into the world scene, and the same Wellington who had astutely recognized the futility of a war in America would step forward to once again become his nation's hero with troops that were much better spent on the field of Waterloo than in the forests of the New World. One cannot help but wonder what would have happened then had the British not declined to pursue their re-acquisition of their departed colonies. I'd love to hear the author's speculation on that alternate history.
To: Huck
In the end, he did more harm to liberty than good.Phooey!
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posted on
06/07/2011 8:18:11 PM PDT
by
dr_lew
To: dr_lew
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posted on
06/07/2011 8:22:27 PM PDT
by
Huck
(The Antifederalists were right.)
To: Publius
Thanks for the ping!
Madisons chief goal that year was to get the Bill of Rights through Congress. He had at first strongly opposed such amendments, arguing that the Constitution, by its precise enumeration of the federal governments strictly limited powers, makes clear that any power not on that short list remains off-limits.
Hamilton had similar objections. His and Madisons degree of sincerity is not open to me, but that was their argument. Madisons views seemed to evolve throughout his long and active life, as Magnet observes.
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posted on
06/07/2011 8:32:50 PM PDT
by
YHAOS
(you betcha!)
To: Billthedrill
Can you imagine knowing the first 12 Presidents personally? I've noticed that you like the idea of putting yourself in those days. They were interesting times.
Somewhere I read of one Founder lightly complaining that his winter rations consisted of only oatmeal, as he ached for the new harvest. I digress.
We live in interesting times as well. I wonder what people will think of us two hundred years from now?
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posted on
06/07/2011 8:47:14 PM PDT
by
Loud Mime
(Prayers for missing Marizela Perez. Prayers for her safe return.)
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