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Reuters/Ipsos Poll: Obama holds big 2012 lead over Republicans (Palin Leads GOP)
reuters ^ | June 08 2011 | John Whitesides

Posted on 06/08/2011 10:35:46 AM PDT by jimjohn

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To: faucetman

I like Cain because I like Cain, you are right about the black vote though.

At best he might peel off a point or two.


61 posted on 06/08/2011 11:25:34 AM PDT by RockinRight (Who is "Generic Republican" and why does he poll so much better against Obama than anyone else?)
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To: Crim

You would stay home and not vote for any conservative?
Seriously? You would not vote for Bachmann Or Cain. Way to elect Obama before the primaries are over.


62 posted on 06/08/2011 11:26:40 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: RIghtwardHo
I think “I won’t sign any legislation longer than 3 pages” is excellent.

It recalls the difference between the U.S. Constitution and the monstrous, unwieldy, enormous (2,000-pages?) constitution of the European Union, the very epitome of decadence; or the monstrous, unwieldy, enormous U.S. tax code that nobody can understand; or the monstrous, unwieldy, enormous Obama health care legislation.

It's the difference between ascendancy and decadence.

63 posted on 06/08/2011 11:27:02 AM PDT by Savage Beast (The Tea Party: La Resistance)
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To: Savage Beast
It's also significant that Cain is one of the top 4 contenders.

By that logic, Ron Paul is a top contender, being tied with Cain. Unfortunately, the Rueters/Ipsos website doesn't have this poll posted as I write this, so I can't look at the overall numbers or internals, but I imagine that 7% is well within the margin of error of most of the rest of the field.

Except for Romney and Palin. Now admittedly I don't put much stock in polling this far out, but this does seem to confirm what a lot of people have been saying -- this is a Romney/Palin matchup, and everyone else is running for VP. At least right now. Still a long time until any votes are cast...

64 posted on 06/08/2011 11:32:04 AM PDT by kevkrom (Palin's detractors now resort to "nobody believes she can win because nobody believes she can win")
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To: 11th Commandment

Yeah and especially since the thread’s title is misleading to any link. Other than Obama beats all.


65 posted on 06/08/2011 11:32:04 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

You know, there is something no one thought of.

Palin/Romney.Obama cannot debate Romney, so Romneycare is off the table. Who cares if the VP is not Conservative? I think the requirement is being able to breathe. On the plus side, Romney does bring value with his business acumen. Corporations and small businesses would welcome this. Cain could also do this, but Romney will raise more money for the campaign.

Romney brings in the independent vote and with Krauthammer and his fellow RINO commentators, the hate Palin factor goes away. What does Romney get from this? A real chance in 2020 and he has 8 years to prove his worth.

I say it’s win-win.


66 posted on 06/08/2011 11:32:42 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Sarah Palin - SheÂ’s living rent-free inside the MSMÂ’s heads. Credited to Lurk)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

“You would stay home and not vote for any conservative?
Seriously? You would not vote for Bachmann Or Cain. Way to elect Obama before the primaries are over.”

Palin or you get Obama.....your choice...not mine.

If you are so worried about it...you should get out an support Palin more...

Not tell me why I should settle for LESS.


67 posted on 06/08/2011 11:33:07 AM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '12)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Romney is a deal breaker....


68 posted on 06/08/2011 11:34:05 AM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '12)
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To: Savage Beast

Cain is a nice guy, I guess. He has no experience. He has shown he is weak in foreign policy knowledge. He health is in question. He had serious cancers less than 4 years ago. He’s no spring chicken. I’m not really that impressed with his resume. In the PC world we live in, how many of those positions he held were “token” positions? He’s a political novice vying for the top political job in the world.

He is not ready for PRIME TIME.


69 posted on 06/08/2011 11:34:10 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: Savage Beast

Now don’t misunderstand me, I TOTALLY agree that these monstrously long bills are, well, monstrous. And I’m with ya on the EU thing. However, to just pull a number out of the air is absurd. Some legislation DOES require more than 3 pages. That doesn’t mean it’s 2,000 though. It’s just such an utterly random number not based in reason and I just think it’s a gimmick that is a bad one. And we don’t need any more gimmicks. America elected a gimmick in 2008. I don’t want another I don’t care how conservative that gimmick is.


70 posted on 06/08/2011 11:34:34 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: jimjohn

Do these idiots not know that Romney is the guy that is supposed to win?!?!


71 posted on 06/08/2011 11:36:28 AM PDT by VanDeKoik (1 million in stimulus dollars paid for this tagline!)
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To: Savage Beast

“I think “I won’t sign any legislation longer than 3 pages” is excellent.”

Bills are usually only 3 pages long. The extra 2000 pages are for the giveaways and to hide the pork.


72 posted on 06/08/2011 11:36:58 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Sarah Palin - SheÂ’s living rent-free inside the MSMÂ’s heads. Credited to Lurk)
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To: jimjohn

A month ago, Trump was winning. Two weeks ago, it was Mitch Daniels. Just sayin’...


73 posted on 06/08/2011 11:37:36 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Washington, we Texans want a divorce!)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

I say that is stretching it. If Romney pushes through (which I hope he doesn’t) Palin will be the last person his ego self picks for VP. Palin has supposedly stated she would be Romney’s VP. It is a lose lose. Sadly Palin will never gain what is needed-the independent vote. I have seen people on this forum bash Bachmann to promote Palin and cite any poll with Palin no where near the lead as slanted liberal and this poll is liberal and sadly I don’t see Palin leading anywhere.


74 posted on 06/08/2011 11:39:18 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: no dems

“....the ONLY candidate who would take the disgruntled Black VOTES AWAY from President Clueless.”

Wish it were so...but its not.

Given a choice between 2 black candidates, the ebony community will support the most liberal one.....”something for nuthin” is their theme song....and a conservative doesn’t even sing in the chorus, much less in the lead.....

My appologies to the numerious and stalwart Freeper blacks.


75 posted on 06/08/2011 11:41:34 AM PDT by Forty-Niner (Palin/West 2012)
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To: jimjohn

So Reuters/Ipsos polls are now reliable?


76 posted on 06/08/2011 11:41:51 AM PDT by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives" - Ataturk)
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To: faucetman

Sad that those that aren’t ready made stars ready for prime time COULD take the independent vote better than those that supposedly are.


77 posted on 06/08/2011 11:41:59 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: jimjohn

It’s quite simple for me. There are three conservatives I would trust for the nomination. Palin, Bachmann, Cain. The rest will bend over in a hurry for Obama.


78 posted on 06/08/2011 11:43:15 AM PDT by toddausauras
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To: americanophile

Yes, the hypocrisy and a Palin 2 point stretch over Romney to see a lead with a very liberal poll pumping Obama is maddening.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/06/08/us-usa-campaign-poll-idUSTRE75749V20110608


79 posted on 06/08/2011 11:46:32 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: RockinRight

“You mean like painting an RV, driving all over Creation.....”

She campaigning fool! Open your eyes!


80 posted on 06/08/2011 11:47:00 AM PDT by Forty-Niner (Palin/West 2012)
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