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Palin either slightly ahead for GOP nomination, or way behind (A Tale of 3 Polls. Who's Correct?)
Hotair ^ | 06/09/2011 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 06/09/2011 12:11:24 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Ah, the travails of polling! Attempting to handicap a race when it hasn’t really started — and when the contestants haven’t yet entered the arena — is a tricky business. Reuters and Fox News team up this week to demonstrate just how tricky it can be. While Reuters declares Sarah Palin as the front-runner in its latest survey, Fox News scores her as an also-ran — as does Quinnipiac in a third poll this week.

First, Reuters reports that Palin took a slight lead over Mitt Romney in their latest survey:

A new Reuters/Ipsos poll released Wednesday afternoon finds Sarah Palin and Mitt Romney statistically tied in the race for the GOP nomination—with 22 percent of likely GOP votes supporting the former Alaska governor and 20 percent choosing the ex-governor of Massachusetts.

That’s in direct contrast to a new Quinnipiac Poll released earlier this morning, which had Romney leading Palin by 10 points.

Quinnipiac has the breakdown at Romney 25, Palin 15, with Herman Cain following at 9 percent. That’s better for Palin than Fox News’s poll, which has their own special correspondent in third place at 12%, eleven points behind Romney and a single point behind Rudy Giuliani, who wasn’t included in the Q-poll or (apparently) the Reuters poll, either.

In fact, the survey results from Fox seems harsh, considering Palin’s role at the news channel, although that’s a bit overstated in their report:

In addition, more voters believe Romney is very or somewhat qualified to be president than any other contender tested. Setting aside how they would vote, about two-thirds of all voters (68 percent) think Romney is qualified, followed by Gingrich at 58 percent, Pawlenty at 43 percent, Palin at 41 percent and Cain at 32 percent.

Of the candidates included in the poll, only Palin is viewed as not qualified to be president by a majority of voters. Many voters are unable to rate Cain and Pawlenty.

Among just Republican primary voters, 85 percent think Romney is qualified and 81 percent think Gingrich is. For Palin, 67 percent of GOP primary voters think she is qualified, 57 percent say the same of Pawlenty and 49 percent believe Cain is qualified.

Winning matters more than issues. By a wide 20-percentage point margin, GOP primary voters are more likely to say it’s “very important” their nominee can beat Obama (73 percent) than to say it’s “very important” for the nominee to share their views (53 percent).

Two-thirds of Republicans believe she’s “qualified” to be President, but not the general public. In part, that’s what a campaign is intended to demonstrate. Palin hasn’t even announced for the race yet, and one can certainly wait to see whether Palin can make her case if and when she enters. Furthermore, Romney, Cain, and Pawlenty are all announced contenders for the nomination, while Palin hasn’t even begun an exploratory committee — which makes polling on her (and Giuliani, and Rick Perry, among others) fairly unreliable, as voters might give more weight to actual candidates than hypothetical ones.

The polls are fun to follow and to analyze, but results like these remind us not to take them too seriously at this stage. We won’t see solid numbers until after Labor Day, and they’ll still be fluid until Thanksgiving — especially in a race without a breakout frontrunner. If one needs proof of that, just remember that Hillary Clinton was the runaway frontrunner for the Democratic nomination until she stumbled in debates at the beginning of December and gave a one-term Senator with no executive experience an opening to exploit.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: gop; lyingpolls4romney; nevertrustromney; polls; potus; romneyfakepolls; sarahpalin

1 posted on 06/09/2011 12:11:33 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Of Reuters, Quinnipiac and Fox, I’ll trust Rasmussen.


2 posted on 06/09/2011 12:14:18 PM PDT by Grunthor (Make the lefts' collective brain cell implode; Cain/Bolton 2012.)
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To: Grunthor

This woman doesn’t like Willard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBXe3Kvg-qU


3 posted on 06/09/2011 12:15:42 PM PDT by bicyclerepair ( Ft. Lauderdale Florida)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Winning matters more than issues.”

If that is true then there no longer exists a reason to be a Republican.


4 posted on 06/09/2011 12:16:23 PM PDT by Grunthor (Make the lefts' collective brain cell implode; Cain/Bolton 2012.)
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To: Grunthor

An election between Milt and the Punk is like a choice between hanging and a firing squad. Bob


5 posted on 06/09/2011 12:21:50 PM PDT by alstewartfan (When you're fresh out of lawyers, you don't know how good it's gonna feel! Al Stewart)
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To: alstewartfan

Well I’d rather be well hung that well shot.


6 posted on 06/09/2011 12:24:06 PM PDT by Grunthor (Make the lefts' collective brain cell implode; Cain/Bolton 2012.)
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To: Grunthor

Tells you more about pols than anything else


7 posted on 06/09/2011 12:26:30 PM PDT by SMARTY (Conforming to non-conformity is conforming just the same.)
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To: Grunthor

RE: Of Reuters, Quinnipiac and Fox, I’ll trust Rasmussen.

Question : In terms of TRACK RECORD, who has CONSISTENTLY for the past 10 election cycle been among the top 3 when it comes to polling accuracy ?


8 posted on 06/09/2011 12:30:45 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (u)
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To: Grunthor

And I thought you were a woman, Grunthor! LOL You are a man, I hope? Bob


9 posted on 06/09/2011 12:32:57 PM PDT by alstewartfan (When you're fresh out of lawyers, you don't know how good it's gonna feel! Al Stewart)
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To: SeekAndFind
In today's polling market, political junkies must do like murder trial junkies do: Consider motives in the weight you assign to the "facts".

Too many pollster's motives of their preference filter into their poll results.

I'll take none-of-the above, support the candidate of my choice, and go with the poll in the primary and then the poll November 2012.

10 posted on 06/09/2011 12:41:22 PM PDT by C210N (0bama, Making the US safe for Global Marxism)
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To: alstewartfan

“And I thought you were a woman, Grunthor! LOL You are a man, I hope?”

Egads man! I am no woman, I just happen to be gentlemanly.

;-)


11 posted on 06/09/2011 12:42:30 PM PDT by Grunthor (Make the lefts' collective brain cell implode; Cain/Bolton 2012.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I have no idea. I just know that in recent years, Ras has been the most respected and seems to be the closest to correct once the elections are held.


12 posted on 06/09/2011 12:43:50 PM PDT by Grunthor (Make the lefts' collective brain cell implode; Cain/Bolton 2012.)
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To: bicyclerepair

WOW!


13 posted on 06/09/2011 12:59:50 PM PDT by Krodg
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To: SeekAndFind

My father in law used to say all the time:

“Figures lie and... Liars figure”

All I get here at the house are push polls, never anything of substance or honesty.

The pollers direct you towards what they want, or they don’t give you the choice of the answer you want.

“would you rather elect Obama or let all poor children starve to death?” (just being a sarcastic there, but everyone gets the point). Then I hear later “50% would rather elect Obama!!!!”

I’ve also had pollers hang up on me, when they ask my party affiliation. Or if I would consider myself conservative or liberal? and on what scale from 1-10?

They don’t even want my in the poll sometimes. This happened last year, when I said I was an independent. The guy pressed on, and I told him I was a TEA partier. He said they did not recognize anything called the TEA party, I had to be either Republican, Democrat, or Libertarian. I wouldn’t commit to any of them, so he ended the phone call, but thanked me for my time.


14 posted on 06/09/2011 1:37:37 PM PDT by esoxmagnum
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To: SeekAndFind

Which is more accurate? Probably the one that was told ahead of time how the election was going to turn out. Major election are being stolen on a regular basis, get used to it. Kennedy was not the first, nor the last.


15 posted on 06/09/2011 2:26:52 PM PDT by itsahoot (We make jokes, they make progress. Progressivism, Support Palin, or get used to it.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Fox poll oversampled Democrats by 8 points over Republicans, but also undersampled independents, so there’s an easy explanation for their being way off.

I’ll go visit with Quinnipiac (usually liberal leaning) now.


16 posted on 06/09/2011 2:29:00 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

The Q poll has much stronger support for Palin with women (18%) than men (11%). So much for women particularly hating Palin. (Ha ha—in contrast, Paul is favored by men (13%) by far over women (3%).)


17 posted on 06/09/2011 2:33:18 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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