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Export of shale gas angers Western Pennsylvania landowners
Pittsburgh Tribune Review ^ | June 13, 2011 | Timothy Puko

Posted on 06/13/2011 8:17:47 PM PDT by Ditto

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To: HiTech RedNeck

I thought exporting was a Good Thing

Yea, me to, but onlu surplus to our own need


41 posted on 06/13/2011 10:42:44 PM PDT by munin
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To: Ditto

If more gas is produced than can be sold at a profit what are the companies going to do with it? They could stop drilling for more gas but a gas company without gas is out of business. Or they could raise prices to make U.S. gas prices closer to European prices.
If the demand isn’t here in the U.S. just what can be done with the excess gas?


42 posted on 06/13/2011 10:55:27 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: this_ol_patriot

Just wait until our food grown domestically, is exported while people in America cannot get enough, because it is worth more overseas, or the money derived is better than the “almighty dollar” our politicians are leaving us with. In a global marketplace, that side of beef may fetch $1,000 US dollars, when here people can only afford to pay $350. The free “traitors” will say that is is a good thing that others eat our meals. We can just eat cake.


43 posted on 06/13/2011 10:56:08 PM PDT by runninglips (Republicans = 99 lb weaklings of politics.)
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To: Ditto
Why export low cost energy?

That is exactly it.

America First.

44 posted on 06/13/2011 10:59:45 PM PDT by CatDancer (I want to call Sarah Palin "Madame President". And I'm old. So hurry up!)
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To: laskerjones
The people who own the land the gas in on or the people who drill wells miles away and steal it?

If drilling is under their property and they have the mineral rights, the right to drill under the property has to be leased from the owner of the Mineral Rights.

It isn't stolen.

There are setbacks, etc, from lease lines, so that even after fracking the well (so the gas will come out of the rock), the gas produced is from under the lease where the well is drilled.

Mineral owners get a royalty on production sales, anywhere from 1/8 to 1/5 of the money.

If you know of someone stealing someone else's natural gas, report them. It's a crime.

45 posted on 06/14/2011 12:04:18 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: CornBred

You would not believe how dirt cheap natural gas is, add a gas dryer and gas water heater and you save huge amounts on electric bills and add a small amount to your gas bill.


46 posted on 06/14/2011 2:21:35 AM PDT by this_ol_patriot (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner)
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To: count-your-change
If the demand isn’t here in the U.S. just what can be done with the excess gas?

Make electricity, with all the coal plants being shut down by obummer we are going to need another energy source to generate electricity, gas energy plants can go up a lot faster than nuclear plants can.

47 posted on 06/14/2011 2:25:52 AM PDT by this_ol_patriot (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner)
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To: this_ol_patriot

Why it’s not being done or done faster, I don’t know. I think if I had a gas line running under my property I’d offer to take the rent payments in gas instead of money.


48 posted on 06/14/2011 2:37:46 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Ditto

And that’s the big story few on this thread realize! When your currency is devalued your resources are exported. But who is receiving increased pay to match the devaluation of the currency? So Americans will be priced out of their resources without realizing why. This is export induced inflation.


49 posted on 06/14/2011 4:06:19 AM PDT by Justa
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To: mia
There are literally a million gas wells in southern New York State. . . all capped. Wonder why that is?

Depleted oil/gas fields are often used as storage for gas.

50 posted on 06/14/2011 4:49:26 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: Thud
The major obstacle is the capital investment necessary, which requires a risk premium.

Correct....as far as it goes. The demands for carbon sequestration that will be acceptable (HAH!) to the watermelons are what pose the most risk, delay and expense.

51 posted on 06/14/2011 4:55:58 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: CornBred

I have no natural gas either. I put in propane just for the stove. I hate to cook on electric. HATE IT.


52 posted on 06/14/2011 6:03:09 AM PDT by therut
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To: terycarl
...our government is dead set against American supplied fuel

Yep. It would eliminate the need for too many wasteful Big Govt departments/agencies.

53 posted on 06/14/2011 6:28:56 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: this_ol_patriot

I know. Before we moved here we had gas. I was so upset they had no gas here. That was a major sticking point with me. But we had only a short amount of time so we got stuck with electric.


54 posted on 06/14/2011 10:02:44 AM PDT by CornBred
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To: therut

We use propane to grill and for outside heat when it’s cold. My neighbors heat their pool with propane.

I never had an electric stove before now. I burned everything I cooked for a while. I was so used to gas, being able to control the flame.

Four years on I finally got the hang of it. Still, I want a gas stove. :)


55 posted on 06/14/2011 10:08:13 AM PDT by CornBred
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To: Ditto

Boo hoo. Somebody needs it more than she does. Tough.


56 posted on 06/14/2011 12:13:09 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Obamao makes like Blagojevich to Richard/Bill Daley.)
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To: mia

You should catch Lisa Jackson in between Ring Dings and ask her why.

Other than that, I suspect the gas wells are shut down, because New York is a corrupt, liberal state that thinks fossil fuels are icky-poo.


57 posted on 06/14/2011 12:15:58 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Obamao makes like Blagojevich to Richard/Bill Daley.)
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To: laskerjones

Just call it a fee instead of a tax and he will sign it.

http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D9NR6PI80.htm

Republican Gov. Tom Corbett is also ruling out tax hikes but has said he would consider a fee.


58 posted on 06/14/2011 1:53:13 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Ditto

Yes, if we have an over supply of gas compared to demand, the prices will be low. If we raise the demand, either through exports, more power plants, natural gas vehicles, etc, it will raise the price.

But it doesn’t stop with the price rise.

If the price rises, we will get more companies wanting to more drilling. We will get more jobs, more infrastructure built, more tax dollars raised, more supporting business selling pipe and compressors.

With exports our trade balance becomes better, and there are associated economic benefits.

I am convinced the US will become a net natural gas exporter unless politics foolishly stop it. And becoming an exporter will be a good thing.


59 posted on 06/14/2011 2:03:52 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: CornBred

I like my gas stove, but I HATE my gas oven. I’ve never had one before this, and I can’t get any of my recipes to come out right.


60 posted on 06/14/2011 2:24:00 PM PDT by Politicalmom ("Obama has put the wrong gas in the tank of our economy."-Herman Cain)
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