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Blood On Their Hands: Giving Guns to Criminals Was the Plan All Along
Townhall.com ^ | June 15, 2011 | Katie Pavlich

Posted on 06/15/2011 11:47:12 AM PDT by Kaslin

“Allowing loads of weapons that we knew to be destined for criminals, this was the plan. It was so mandated.” –Special Agent John Dodson ATF Phoenix Field Division.

Damning new evidence from Capitol Hill shows that ATF Directors and Justice Department Officials knew about and encouraged the purposeful trafficking of thousands of weapons across the southern border, despite strong objections from ATF agents. Thousands of innocent lives were taken as the result, including those of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry and ICE Agent Jamie Zapata.

New emails released by House Oversight Chairman Darrell Issa show that ATF Director Kenneth Melson was briefed weekly about Operation Fast and Furious and watched a live feed of straw purchasers (who serve as middle men, purchasing guns and giving them to cartel members) in Arizona gun shops from his cozy Washington D.C. office. Emails also show that Deputy Assistant Director for Field Operations William McMahon was enthusiastic about the operation.

“An e-mail from April 12, 2010, indicates that Acting Director Melson was very much in the weeds with Operation Fast and Furious. After a detailed briefing of the program by the ATF Phoenix Field Division, Acting Director Melson had a plethora of follow-up questions that required additional research to answer. As the document indicates, Mr. Melson was interested in the IP Address for hidden cameras located inside cooperating gun shops. With this information, Acting Director Melson was able to sit at his desk in Washington and – himself – watch a live feed of the straw buyers entering the gun stores to purchase dozens of AK-47 variants,” Chairman Issa said in his opening statement.

Senator Charles Grassley, who has been working closely with Rep. Issa, pointed out that officials from the Justice Department have been stonewalling the investigation for months. Attorney General Eric Holder has said he is unaware of who ordered the operation.

“On October 26, 2009, emails indicate that there was a meeting of senior law enforcement officials at the Justice Department. It appears to have included the heads every law enforcement component of the Department, including directors of the FBI, the DEA and the ATF. It also included the U.S. Attorneys for all the Southwest border states, the Director of the Organized Crime Drug Enforcement Task Force and the Chair of the Attorney General’s Advisory Committee,” Grassley testified.

Emails also show that ATF encouraged gun dealers to sell to straw buyers, in spite of their own hesitance to do so.

"ATF encouraged gun dealers to sell to straw buyers. Emails prove that at least one dealer worried prophetically about the risk. He [a dealer] wrote to ATF about his concern that a border patrol agent might end up facing the wrong end of one of these guns. ATF supervisors told the dealer not to worry. So, the agents said it was a bad idea. And, the gun dealers said it was a bad idea, but ATF supervisors continued anyway", Grassley said.

Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry was that agent. He was killed by cartel member 18 miles north of the U.S.-Mexico border near Rio Rico, Ariz. Agent Terry was a fighter-a former Marine who was willing to put everything he had, including his life, on the line for his country. He was dedicated to his job, his family and the United States.

“It was just ten days before Christmas last year, when our family received the devastating news; Brian had been shot and killed while engaged in a firefight with a group of individuals seeking to do harm to Americans citizens and others,” said Robert Heyer, the cousin of Terry, testifying on behalf of the entire Terry family. “Brian did ultimately come home that Christmas; we buried him not far from the house that he was raised in just prior to Christmas day. The gifts that Brian had picked out with such thought and care began to arrive in the mail that same week. With each delivery, we felt the indescribable pain of Brian’s death, but at the same time also remembered his amazing love and spirit.”

ICE Agent Jamie Zapata was killed in Mexico in February 2011 while on assignment. He was killed by a gun traced back to Operation Fast and Furious, however, Zapata’s family will never see justice. Once guns flow back into Mexico, they are no longer within the jurisdiction of the United States, leaving the government without any authority to prosecute anyone for any crime.

Three Special ATF Agents gave additional incriminating testimony. ATF Agent Dodson, one of the first whistleblowers to come out publicly against Operation Fast and Furious, provided details about the failed operation.

“I was involved in this operation, we monitored as they purchased hand guns, AK-47 variants, and .50 caliber rifles almost daily. Rather than contradict any enforcement actions, we took notes, we recorded observations, we tracked movements of these individuals for a short time after their purchases, but nothing more. Knowing all the while, just days after these purchases, the guns that we saw these individuals buy would begin turning up at crime scenes in the United States and Mexico, we still did nothing,” Dodson said. “Allowing loads of weapons that we knew to be destined for criminals, this was the plan. It was so mandated.”

And there still isn’t an explanation as to why.

“Allowing firearms to be trafficked to criminals is a dangerous and deadly strategy. The thought that the techniques used in the “Fast and Furious” investigation would result in “taking down a cartel” given the toothless nature of the “straw purchasing law” and the lack of a “firearms trafficking statute” is, in my opinion, delusional,” Special Agent Peter Forcelli said. “This operation, which in my opinion endangered the American public, was orchestrated in conjunction with Assistant U.S. Attorney Emory Hurley. [Emory Hurley is the same Assistant U.S. Attorney who previously prevented agents from using some of the common and accepted law enforcement techniques that are employed elsewhere in the United States to investigate and prosecute gun crimes.] I have read documents that indicate that his boss, U.S. Attorney Dennis Burke, also agreed with the direction of the case.”

There is no way to prosecute drug cartels in Mexico even if firearms trafficking had been successful in locating them. They are not within United States jurisdiction.

“I can’t think of a single, logical strategy as to why this would have worked,” Forcelli said. “This was a catastrophic disaster.”

According to testimony, it has become common practice for retaliation to occur against ATF Agents who spoke out against their supervisor's corruption, even when operations had no logical backing.

Forcelli also added that while the ATF was ordering gun dealers to sell to straw buyers under surveillance, gun dealers were taking the heat for it, and being held responsible for violence in Mexico. He stressed gun dealers were not the problem. In fact gun dealers were helpful in pursuing cases against cartel members, making it blatantly clear law abiding gun owners are not at fault, but the government is.

Issa said he will continue to investigate in order to find the truth and get to the bottom of the operatation. The government owes the truth to the American people and to the family of Brian Terry and Jamie Zapata, he explained. “There has now become a focus on getting the truth out.”


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; batfe; batfeisajoke; bootthebatfe; brianterry; corruption; democratcorruption; democrats; doj; dojisajoke; fastandfurious; fraud; govtabuse; guncontrol; gunwalker; holder; mythof90percent; obama; tyranny
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1 posted on 06/15/2011 11:47:16 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

One of the things that bothers me the most is the description of “an operation turned tragic”. They knew damn well that someone would die. They counted on it as a means of attacking our 2nd amendment rights.

They just didn’t expect the deaths to lead back to government.


2 posted on 06/15/2011 11:51:19 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Kaslin

Simple: more backdoor gun control like Dr’s asking about guns in Øbamocare

pos-holder is trying everything


3 posted on 06/15/2011 11:51:56 AM PDT by bicyclerepair ( Ft. Lauderdale Florida)
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To: Kaslin

Somebody, or several somebodies, need to swing for this.


4 posted on 06/15/2011 11:53:37 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (I'll have what the gentleman on the floor is drinking.)
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To: Kaslin
The REAL target: Lawful American gun owners and dealers.

5 posted on 06/15/2011 11:53:46 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: Kaslin
It's official, the fecal matter has hit the rotating blades.
6 posted on 06/15/2011 11:54:26 AM PDT by JPG (Hey, LSM, how are those emails workin' out for ya?)
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To: Kaslin

Completely disagreed!! The plan was to use the chaos/mayhem produced by giving guns to criminals as the platform to pass new gun laws. In a nutshell it was about further erosion of our 2nd A rights. Its no more complex than that.


7 posted on 06/15/2011 11:54:26 AM PDT by 556x45
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To: Kaslin
“I can’t think of a single, logical strategy as to why this would have worked,” Forcelli said. “This was a catastrophic disaster.”

Think outside the box.

We the People weren't supposed to know, so the Domestic Enemies in DC could then use the carnage as an pretense to enact anti-2nd Amendment legislation.

Disarm the Peasants for the coming chaos.

8 posted on 06/15/2011 11:55:18 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Kaslin

So with all this out in the open, is there *any* reason to keep the ATF around?


9 posted on 06/15/2011 11:56:02 AM PDT by Soothesayer9
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To: bicyclerepair

Wasn’t Obama quoted recently telling an audience of co-conspirators something to the effect that his regime was “doing things below the radar” to advance the anti-gun agenda?


10 posted on 06/15/2011 11:57:27 AM PDT by 230FMJ (...from my cold, dead, fingers.)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
As another FReeper pointed out on another thread yesterday, while the BATFE and DOJ have been stonewalling every attempt to get to the bottom of this corrupt enterprise, they were able, in record time, to provide Schumer, Feinstein and Whitehouse all the BS they required for their newly-published report on "HALTING U.S. FIREARMS TRAFFICKING TO MEXICO".

The agenda is crystal clear to anyone who's paying attention.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

11 posted on 06/15/2011 11:57:35 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: cripplecreek

I think it is actually worse than just wanting to enact more restrictive gun laws. I believe somebody high up in government(Holder and Obama??) were getting kickbacks from the cartels for the ‘free guns’.

The dems just want us to look at this as a legislative gimmick and while that may be an added benefit to the commie dems...there is very big money in helping the cartels. They hand out money to politicians all the time. Go look at how many dem mayors and sheriffs there are along the border and up along the major drug running corridors through the US...you will be surprised.


12 posted on 06/15/2011 11:59:43 AM PDT by penelopesire (Let The Congressional Hearings Begin!)
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To: Kaslin
Forcelli also added that while the ATF was ordering gun dealers to sell to straw buyers under surveillance, gun dealers were taking the heat for it, and being held responsible for violence in Mexico.

And that's exactly what this was all about: An attack on the 2nd Amendment and law abiding gun owners and dealers.

13 posted on 06/15/2011 12:00:00 PM PDT by piytar (Obama's Depression. Say it early, say it often. Why? Because it's TRUE.)
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To: Soothesayer9
So with all this out in the open, is there *any* reason to keep the ATF around?

IMHO ... this goes to the decision makers (at the TOP) not the guys on the line.

14 posted on 06/15/2011 12:00:40 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Soothesayer9

Excellent point


15 posted on 06/15/2011 12:02:30 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin; Joe Brower

This scandal is a million times worse than Watergate, and the MSM ignores it.


16 posted on 06/15/2011 12:05:46 PM PDT by Travis McGee (Castigo Cay is in print and on Kindle.)
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To: Joe Brower

ping to some interesting info that may be related:

‘Obama Donors Get Top DOJ Jobs’

“Among the more alarming examples listed in the investigative piece involves the DOJ, the agency that enforces the law, ensures public safety against foreign or domestic threats and defends the nation’s interests. Obama appointed seven campaign bundlers to the DOJ, including Attorney General Eric Holder who raised $50,000 in 2008.

A George Washington University law professor (Spencer Overton) who bundled at least half a million dollars was appointed principal deputy attorney general in the DOJ’s Office of Legal Policy. Five other donors also landed jobs at the agency, including a Harvard buddy of Obama’s who got the No. 3 DOJ policy job and a Georgia bond lawyer who became a deputy associate attorney general.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2735170/posts

Bundling Mexican cartel money by chance? Pay attention to this folks. It may go deeper than just trying to use this to pass restrictive gun laws. Lots of cartel money makes it’s way into the hands of democrat politicians.

No doubt the cartels really appreciated all the guns and got to get them without worry of arrest or seizure because the agents were told to not follow the purchasers from the strawman purchasers/handlers. How convenient.


17 posted on 06/15/2011 12:11:05 PM PDT by penelopesire (Let The Congressional Hearings Begin!)
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To: Travis McGee
knowing which side the bread is buttered on and by whom always trumps the truth from the leftist media ... imho
18 posted on 06/15/2011 12:11:07 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: 556x45
I agree with your statement,and would like to point out that pouring gas on an already volitile situation,is what community organizers do to gain control.
19 posted on 06/15/2011 12:15:52 PM PDT by hwkbeer (I will pursue my enemy and not stop till I consume him.)
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To: Kaslin

Color me shocked. Not.


20 posted on 06/15/2011 12:23:14 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 875 of our national holiday from reality. - Obama really isn't one of us)
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