Posted on 06/18/2011 10:29:06 PM PDT by Eleutheria5
Morris Pollard, the father of Jonathan Pollard, has died at age 95. HIs family has sent an urgent plea to President Obama, asking him to show mercy and allow Jonathan Pollard compassionate leave to attend his father's funeral. Jonathan Pollard was convicted for passing classified information to a foreign country and has been incarcerated for 26 years Pollard's father had been hospitalized for the last several months. During this period, activists on Pollard's behalf and various well-known Israelis, attempted to no avail to obtain permission for Jonathan to visit his father on a 24 hour leave.
The refusal prompted MK Aryeh Eldad to send a message of condolence to Jonathan, saying: "The people of Israel will not forget President Obama's cruelty in ignoring all the requests to free you. A president who lacks the basic human feeling that would allow a son's visit to his dying father should not wonder that the Jewish people will make every effort to prevent his re-election."
A petition signed by a 75 israeli MK's, asking Obama to allow Pollard to visit his dying father was to have been handed to Vice President Joe Biden shortly. It came too late.
MK Nachman Shai (Kadima), initiator of the petition, said that its signers represented a broad spectrum of parties and opinions, who united for this humanitarian purpose. "I hope that we will succeed in opening President Obama's heart," he had said.
Recent efforts on the part of various persons to convince President Shimon Peres, considered by Deptury Foreign Minister Danny Ayalon the natural choice to turn to Obama on this issue, had been unsuccessful.
(Excerpt) Read more at israelnationalnews.com ...
“So much for “unsourced allegations” - lets see yours OTHER than the “Jonathan Pollard Cheerleaders” web site ...
Of course you do not like Pollard’s website- It focuses on the verified LEGAL documents, not the MSM skews that we all know to be BS.
So for those who want to know what really happened, and would like to see the actual court documents and the facts, Here are the links:
http://www.jonathanpollard.org/
http://www.jonathanpollard.org/court2000.htm
http://www.jonathanpollard.org/2002/051502.htm
http://www.jonathanpollard.org/courtdate.htm
http://www.jonathanpollard.org/legal.htm
http://www.jonathanpollard.org/sentences.htm
......and one last thing,
Casper Weinberger was, and is still known to have a rabid hatred of Israel and Jews.
The comment below on Pollard’s behalf came from Casper Weinberger’s Assistant Secretary of Defense, Lawrence Korb, in a letter to Obama:
“Based on the knowledge that I have firsthand, I can confidently say that the punishment was so severe because of lack of sympathy for Israel by the U.S. Secretary of Defense at the time, my boss, Caspar Weinberger.”
“So much for “unsourced allegations” - lets see yours OTHER than the “Jonathan Pollard Cheerleaders” web site ...
Of course you do not like Pollard’s website- It focuses on the verified LEGAL documents, not the MSM skews that we all know to be BS.
So for those who want to know what really happened, and would like to see the actual court documents and the facts, Here are the links:
http://www.jonathanpollard.org/
http://www.jonathanpollard.org/court2000.htm
http://www.jonathanpollard.org/2002/051502.htm
http://www.jonathanpollard.org/courtdate.htm
http://www.jonathanpollard.org/legal.htm
http://www.jonathanpollard.org/sentences.htm
......and one last thing,
Casper Weinberger was, and is still known to have a rabid hatred of Israel and Jews.
The comment below on Pollard’s behalf came from Casper Weinberger’s Assistant Secretary of Defense, Lawrence Korb, in a letter to Obama:
“Based on the knowledge that I have firsthand, I can confidently say that the punishment was so severe because of lack of sympathy for Israel by the U.S. Secretary of Defense at the time, my boss, Caspar Weinberger.”
“Typical. If someone doesn’t agree with you they are evil, nazis, need to put on an SS uniform, etc ad infinitum, ad nauseum. You have no credibility with that liberal tripe.”
If it looks like a cow, has brown spots, moos, and gives milk........
“Typical. If someone doesn’t agree with you they are evil, nazis, need to put on an SS uniform, etc ad infinitum, ad nauseum. You have no credibility with that liberal tripe.”
If it looks like a cow, has brown spots, moos, and gives milk........
ummmm........a little polish for those boots?
LOL! Of course, the money helped.
Anyway, of all the spies in all thejails in the world, what makes this particular weasel Pollard such a cause celebre?
Why do you care about this one so much?
Hmmm..?
I finally figured out who these "Free Pollard" people remind me of - - the "Free Mumia" crowd.
They are peas in a pod. Same lame, excuse-making; same misplaced passion; same 'slightly off' manner.
I would not vote for a Dem for a hundred Pollards, even if I still lived in the US. It’s impossible to ignore the case, but I really don’t know what to make of it in the larger scheme of things, and continuously change my mind.
“accusations of anti-semitism when they argue that a man convicted of treason should remain in jail.”
Then why continue to rely on lies with statements that he was “convicted of treason” ?
“accusations of anti-semitism when they argue that a man convicted of treason should remain in jail.”
Then why continue to rely on lies with statements that he was “convicted of treason” ?
There is no reason to get snarky, just as there is no reason to defend spies, or to defend coddling them and avoiding the death penalty for them, and defending other left wing agendas.
Though harmonium and Eleutheria5 have been here longer than I have, I bid to zot, and that the lightning strike not once, but twice: the two of them, harmonium and the original poster, on an American conservative site, continually being apologists of an American traitor, and mocking patriotic Americans not only offended by the traitor, but by their behavior in advocating for him.
The only ones that have made an issue of his Judaism have been his apologists, particularly harmonium, playing the race card just like Mumia’s apologists do, as mentioned above, and as Pollard himself did, claiming “racial imperative” as the excuse for what he did: betraying the only country of his citizenship, for more than one foreign country.
Here on this thread harmonium has been apparently disingenuous, knowing the sources well enough to recognize where a list of them are from, without their being attributed as such, but still constantly requesting attribution, while mocking the way in which they’re referenced, and claiming another thread was a ‘hate fest without addressing those he considered had made it so, or seemingly having read or considered all the thoughtful information presented when evidence or justification was requested or demanded by these defenders of a traitor, as if any further were even necessary.
Someone above, in response to harmonium’s ‘showing their true colors’ jibe, pointed out what I had been thinking, that the true colors shown were red, white, and blue. What true colors did Pollard show, besides yellow, or green?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2733483/posts?q=1&;page=1
Information from American sources are rejected in favor of statements from Israeli officialdom. Pollard’s apologist harmonium in particular has claimed to be American though, which to me isn’t evident from a single thing he’s said, only mentioning it when asserting that his way of thinking is how ‘other’ Americans should also think about this traitor.
This happened in the Reagan era. In my opinion, Netanyahu and Ehud Barak dirty themselves even by mentioning the name of this filth, let alone advocating for him officially, or visiting him in prison. But that’s their prerogative as representatives of a foreign country. Pollard originally sought sanctuary in the Israeli consulate, but was turned away, at which point he was captured by our law enforcement. Israel did not want him then. Why now?
For thirteen years after this, Israel denied employing Pollard, lying to us that he was in league with ‘rogue agents’ but yet their promise to cooperate with our investigation, as part of the plea deal, beyond being breached by this fact, fell into harassment of our agents collecting information in Israel for this case. Pollard himself also broke the conditions of his plea deal, as has been described elsewhere.
These apologists of an American traitor have made mention often of proportionality for his crimes, but without mentioning or comparing him to Mordechai Vanunu, convicted as an Israeli traitor, who seems to have betrayed less than Pollard did, and who seems to have much greater justification to his claim to being a whistleblower or prisoner of conscience than Pollard does, though Pollard and his traitor apologists have tried that too when other gambits didn’t work. Can we have reference comments on that case?
Admiral Sumner Shapiro, along with three other former directors of America’s Naval Intelligence, in a position to know, felt strongly enough about this to jointly issue this statement:
“We... feel obligated to go on record with the facts regarding Pollard in order to dispel the myths that have arisen from this clever public relations campaign... aimed at transforming Pollard from greedy, arrogant betrayer of the American national trust into Pollard, committed Israeli patriot”
I agree that this may be the most radical leftist, most openly, rabidly, anti-American thread, that I have ever seen here.
As another poster pointed out, none of these Pollard apologists ever bring up the notorious traitors who were executed, Ethel and Julius Rosenberg.
It's a curious thing.
You waste a lot of blather to mischaracterize my statements with reference to Pollard. At most I’ve been ambivalent, certainly not an “apologist” or “mocking” anyone who disagrees. I do make a point of reasoning through the issues, and while you may disagree with my reasoning, I won’t respect a dissent that isn’t expressed in a coherent argument. It’s not a major issue for me, and I’ve expressed my opinion on that and a great number of issues here over the past decade or so, and will continue to do so. I’m boots on the ground here in Judah and Samaria, where the news doesn’t happen on TV, and on any topic at all, I can disagree with other posters here. Should the moderator of this forum wants to zot me or any other regular long-standing poster for failing to incant the prescribed shibolet on cue on Pollard or anything else, it will be Freep’s loss, not mine. Stick around, Old New York. You have a lot to learn and you really oughtn’t to presume to police your seniors here.
Up yours, schmuck. I haven't defended any spies here. I've even suggested that death for all spies would be fine with me. But we also have this little thing called the Constitution which matters not a whit to the Obama crowd nor apparently to BIGGOTS like you. I asked you if you believe in the rule of law, but that apparently was too uncomfortable for you to answer. People like you are a disgrace to FreeRepublic.
ML/NJ
Execute the traitor!
Execute the traitorous spy and investigate his family.
Also, collect the names of his allies and defenders, just in case.
I do not give a damn if Pollard is white, black brown or yellow.
I do not give a damn that Pollard is a Jew, Christian, Muslim, Buddist or whatever.
Pollard sold and gave secrets of the U.S.A. to another country and I do not care that it was a friendly country,
Basttard should have hung by his neck til dead a long time ago.
Let him out for any reason? NO f-ing way.
End of discussion.
If it looks like an ass, smells like an ass, and sounds like an ass.....ummmm.....want a little hay, ass?
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