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NY Target store workers reject unionization (Free Market Victory)
AP via Yahoo ^

Posted on 06/19/2011 12:46:09 AM PDT by indianrightwinger

NY Target store workers reject unionization Workers at NY Target store reject unionization, but union says it will press on nationwide

Ellen Gibson, AP Retail Writer, On Saturday June 18, 2011, 6:08 am EDT NEW YORK (AP) -- Workers at a Target store in New York voted against joining the country's largest retail union Friday night, but the union said it would press on and broaden its push to represent the company's workers nationwide.

The United Food and Commercial Workers Union Local 1500 also said it would contest the results and ask the federal government to order a new election, alleging that Target illegally intimidated workers. Target denied the union's allegations.

Both sides said the workers at Target's Valley Stream store voted 137-85 against unionization. A "yes" vote would have made the store the first of the company's 1,700 locations to bring in organized labor.

"Target did everything they could to deny these workers a chance at the American Dream," said Bruce W. Both, president of United and Commercial Workers Union Local 1500, in a statement. "However, the workers' pursuit of a better life and the ability to house and feed their families is proving more powerful. These workers are not backing down from this fight. They are demanding another election."

Target spokeswoman Molly Snyder said the company acted legally.

"Target absolutely believes we have followed all the policies and procedures that are outlined by the National Labor Relations Board in a completely lawful manner," Snyder said.

(Excerpt) Read more at finance.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: freedom; markets; target; unions
Wonderful news! Although, NLRB must be preparing a lawsuit.
1 posted on 06/19/2011 12:46:14 AM PDT by indianrightwinger
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To: indianrightwinger

Unions destroy every business and/or industry that they infect. Everyone who votes to unionize should at least understand this as they vote. Historical fact is historical fact.


2 posted on 06/19/2011 1:03:47 AM PDT by fhayek
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To: indianrightwinger
alleging that Target illegally intimidated workers

That's rich. The bullies whining about being bullied..

3 posted on 06/19/2011 1:03:50 AM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: fhayek

Maybe they learned the lesson from Wal-Mart in Canada(Montreal?); when they voted to unionize, the store was simply closed. Now they are united in unemployment...


4 posted on 06/19/2011 1:05:44 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: kearnyirish2

They did that too to my neighborhood in Vancouver BC before I left for the 57 states. The commie bastards on the city council made Wal Mart lives so miserable they made sure they were on the outskirts of the metro area.

They were there to protect the canadian version of WM which is Zellers.

The funny part? Zellers has been bought out by Target. And because PM Harper is a conservative, now’s the best time to handle those union thugs and give em a dose of their own medicine.


5 posted on 06/19/2011 1:13:22 AM PDT by max americana (.)
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To: indianrightwinger
A lot of people work at a Target or Walmart part-time or after retirement for a little extra cash. Why should they have to be strapped with union dues?

Also, when I was in college I had some friends whose parents worked at the local Miller brewery. They all got summer jobs paying about $15.00 an hour, this in the early 90’s. They were telling us how great it was as they really didn't do anything. Until they got their first checks and saw how much went directly to the union! The brewery closed a few years later and left tons out of work. All their union did was take and left the workers high and dry.

6 posted on 06/19/2011 1:49:50 AM PDT by MacMattico
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To: MacMattico

By rejecting the Union Thuggery, they “created and saved” their own jobs. Unions have outlived their usefulness. They are now simply money-laundering fronts for the Democrat Party.


7 posted on 06/19/2011 3:56:37 AM PDT by Shady (The numbers do not lie.)
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To: indianrightwinger
This is one of the most blatantly biased articles that I have ever read. It consists mainly of quotes from unions and supporters. Why would a “news” article about a vote in New York discuss a “small protest” in Arkansas?
8 posted on 06/19/2011 4:04:55 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: indianrightwinger

“Target did everything they could to deny these workers a chance at the American Dream,”

Here’s a statement that, coming from a union organizer, we know is complete crap without ever looking at any evidence. Nothing a union does has anything to do with “The American Dream”!


9 posted on 06/19/2011 4:32:59 AM PDT by Castigar
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To: indianrightwinger

I would like to work on this headline.. Unions collectively emptied their coffers during Obama’s election. Now with one empty pocket, they desperately attempt to take advantage of the bad economy to promise workers anything for union fees. Most especially in states that are not “right to work” . They know they must come up with mo money for 2012, so they are blitzing. Union bumper sticker: I heart mandatory union dues.


10 posted on 06/19/2011 4:59:05 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Look out Left Coast, we are coming and we have Bibles and Guns! LOL)
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To: indianrightwinger
The United Food and Commercial Workers Union Local 1500 also said it would contest the results and ask the federal government to order a new election, alleging that Target illegally intimidated workers. Target denied the union's allegations.

As opposed to the unions legally intimidating the workers to vote FOR the unions.

11 posted on 06/19/2011 5:04:12 AM PDT by Go Gordon (I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.)
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To: indianrightwinger
"Target did everything they could to deny these workers a chance at the American Dream," said Bruce W. Both,
Yeah, right Brucie.
I guess (Cue Spooky Music) 'Management', Water-boarded 62% of the workers so they'd vote NO.

ps: Brucie, can I have some of what you're smoking?

12 posted on 06/19/2011 5:06:18 AM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits [A.Einstein])
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To: norwaypinesavage
This is one of the most blatantly biased articles that I have ever read.

Wait until the end of the month and there will be 2 or 3 local construction unions going on strike in NY city. In this economic climate, is there any justification for striking? They should be damn lucky to even have a job at this point.

13 posted on 06/19/2011 5:08:11 AM PDT by Go Gordon (I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.)
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To: indianrightwinger

I don’t understand this. The Unions say they are “for the worker.” These workers don’t want to join. Continuing to press them is against the workers’ desires, it seems to me.

Reminds me of a kid who followed me through a store parking lot to try to sell me “magazine subscriptions.” I kept saying no; he kept pressing. I finally had to tell him, “Look, I’m not going to give you a penny. Why don’t you spend your time looking for someone else who might?”

The Union needs to move on to another pigeon who might be more ripe for the plucking and leave Target alone.


14 posted on 06/19/2011 5:41:15 AM PDT by mrs. a (It's a short life but a merry one...)
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To: indianrightwinger

What bothers me about this is the UFCW..lost the vote, and yet they rush off to the courthouse for a “do-over”.

Very Liberal of them, keep filing lawsuits until you win.


15 posted on 06/19/2011 5:41:29 AM PDT by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: indianrightwinger

The United Food and Commercial Workers Union is underrated for the amount of underhanded , dirty and illegal tactics they use, including sending members to Wal-Mart stores to fill carts with perishable goods, abandon the cart and walk out of the store. This has happened in stores in my area resulting in thousands of dollars of meat and other goods to have to be thrown away.

Wal-Marts policy is to throw away all such goods as they have no way of being sure just how long the goods have sat unrefrigerated.


16 posted on 06/19/2011 5:54:46 AM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: indianrightwinger

These workers who rejected the union were smart... but it would be wise of Target to give really lousy schedules to the workers who pushed for unionization... just in case anyone else wants to try this again.


17 posted on 06/19/2011 6:07:37 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: Graybeard58
The United Food and Commercial Workers Union is underrated for the amount of underhanded , dirty and illegal tactics they use, including sending members to Wal-Mart stores to fill carts with perishable goods, abandon the cart and walk out of the store. This has happened in stores in my area resulting in thousands of dollars of meat and other goods to have to be thrown away.

Sounds like perfect justification for a SLAPP suit. If these thugs are going to fight dirty, then the only thing that will defeat them is more dirty fighting.

18 posted on 06/19/2011 6:12:09 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: MacMattico
A lot of people work at a Target or Walmart part-time or after retirement for a little extra cash. Why should they have to be strapped with union dues?
I learned about unions first hand when I was in high school in the mid 1960s
I worked PT in a grocery store and was forced to join the North American Meat Cutters Union (IIRC).
Once I was "unionized" I received a 10 cents per hour raise ($2 week), and my union dues were $2 a week. Such a deal.
19 posted on 06/19/2011 6:12:41 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: kearnyirish2
Maybe they learned the lesson from Wal-Mart in Canada(Montreal?); when they voted to unionize, the store was simply closed.

That's what I was thinking too... Target did make it clear that there was no guarantee that the store would stay open if it became unionized. Perhaps the workers wisely took heed of this not-so-subtle warning.

On another note... I remember reading somewhere that whenever a union would try to organize a McDonald's in Canada, McDonald's would simply hire a bunch of extra "workers" to work just for the day of the vote... and vote no. :)

20 posted on 06/19/2011 6:19:07 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: fhayek

Unions are good in certain circumstances. Lets face it, lots of freepers are cheapskates who expect others to be their stooges and work for peanuts so they can save a few nickles. This was a free vote and if the Target workers want or don’t want a union in their business


21 posted on 06/19/2011 6:23:31 AM PDT by dennisw (NZT - "works better if you're already smart")
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To: indianrightwinger

Both sides said the workers at Target’s Valley Stream store voted 137-85 against unionization>>>>>>>>>

The would be union will get nowhere contesting this kind of lopsided vote


22 posted on 06/19/2011 6:27:36 AM PDT by dennisw (NZT - "works better if you're already smart")
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To: max americana

That will be interesting to see how that plays out (Target vs. Wal-Mart); in my area Wal-Marts are often outside of metro areas (probably due to the reduced costs of land). The 2 closest to me are located in New Jersey’s meadowlands, where there isn’t much residential area (due to soft ground, environmental restrictions, and outright contamination of soil); few people could walk to them.


23 posted on 06/19/2011 6:32:48 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: indianrightwinger
...voted 137-85 against unionization.

Sheesh. Didn't Bruno show up with the "found" 100 votes for unionization?

24 posted on 06/19/2011 6:53:35 AM PDT by CPOSharky (The only thing straight, white, Christian males get is the blame for everything.)
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To: CPOSharky

Later....137 cars were found with slashed tires and broken windows.


25 posted on 06/19/2011 7:00:37 AM PDT by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: dennisw
Unions are good in certain circumstances.

True. My Union buddy whines constantly of how the do-nothing slackers he works with get paid the same as he does for doing a lot less work.

26 posted on 06/19/2011 7:14:16 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Join the AFL-CIO. The Communist Party needs new blood.)
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To: padre35

“Very Liberal of them, keep filing lawsuits until you win.”

That’s the only game they know.


27 posted on 06/19/2011 2:32:53 PM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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