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Perry: executive order requiring young girls to be vaccinated against HPV wasn't mandatory
PolitiFact Check ^ | January 29, 2010

Posted on 06/19/2011 1:02:01 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

When Gov. Rick Perry issued an executive order in 2007 requiring all Texas girls to receive a vaccine against the human papillomavirus before entering the sixth grade, lawmakers balked and blocked it.

Critics said the vaccine, Merck & Co.'s Gardasil, was too new to declare safe. Some said too that Perry's order would infringe on parental rights or give girls a false sense of security, leading them to be sexually active too young.

Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, one of Perry's opponents in the GOP gubernatorial primary, frequently slams Perry's stilled order.

Perry has stood by his action, most recently casting it as having created an optional vaccination requirement.

"That piece of legislation was not mandatory, in the sense of when you can say no, something's not mandatory," he said during the second Republican gubernatorial debate Jan. 29.

A just-say-no gubernatorial order? We decided to check.

What we found: On Feb. 2, 2007, Perry issued an executive order — not a piece of legislation, as he said — requiring the Texas Health and Human Services Commission to adopt rules mandating all girls entering sixth grade to receive a vaccination against the types of HPV, a sexually-transmitted virus, that causes most cases of cervical cancer and genital warts.

The order included an opt-out "in order to protect the right of parents to be the final authority on their children's health care." Perry ordered the Department of State Health Services to allow parents dissenting for philosophical or religious reasons to request a conscientious objection affidavit form. That form, which has been available since 2003, enables parents to enroll their children in public school even if they lack state-required immunizations. It's automatically granted as long as parents provide all required information.

According to the Department of State Health Service's 2008-09 immunization report, which uses data from kindergarten and seventh-grade students at 1,300 independent school districts and 800 private schools, 0.28 percent of the students filed conscientious objection forms.

Parents must renew exemption affidavits every two years to maintain their validity, according to Allison Lowery, assistant press officer at the Texas Department of State Health Services.

We thought the opt-out form for public-school students proved Perry correct until we learned that not all private schools accept the affidavit. That means some private schools may not allow their students to exempt themselves from any state-required vaccinations. Some 15 percent of more than 1 million Texas girls in fifth through 12th grade in 2008 were enrolled in private schools, according to the U.S. Census Bureau.

According to a 2006 Texas Attorney General's opinion: "A private school that does not accept state tax funds is not required to accept for enrollment a child who has received an exemption from the immunizations required by the Texas Health and Safety Code."

In its policy for Catholic schools, the Catholic Diocese of Austin states: "Immunizations are not in conflict with the Catholic faith. Conscientious objections or waivers, which may be permissible for enrollment in public schools, do not qualify as an exception to this policy." Catholic schools in the diocese do accept medical exemptions, meaning if the immunization could somehow harm the child, it's not required to enroll.

We wondered if the diocese's policy in favor of requiring state-mandated immunizations would have extended to refusing the opt-out form for girls subject to the HPV vaccination.

Perry aides may have had the same question. According to internal e-mails published online by Hutchison's campaign (also obtained by the Austin American-Statesman under Texas open records laws in 2007), Brandon LeBlanc, then the governor's community affairs public liaison, wrote Feb. 6, 2007: "I don't have an answer for the questions I'm getting regarding private schools. Apparently Catholic schools in particular will require all state vaccines, but won't except (sic) the exemptions. My first inclination, assuming this is true, is that this is for the parents and the schools to sort out. Is there a better answer to this 'problem'?"

Nora Belcher, then assistant director at the Governor's Office of Budget, Planning and Policy, replied: "I believe in the short term your answer is the correct one, plus, enrolling in Catholic school is a CHOICE (for parents, anyway)."

In February 2007, the Roman Catholic Bishops of Texas came close to saying they wouldn't require the vaccine, issuing a statement recommending that "civil authorities should leave this decision to parents."

But would parochial schools absolutely have left that particular vaccination decision to parents? Margaret McGettrick, director of education at the Texas Catholic Conference, the statewide association of the Roman Catholic diocese in Texas, recently said the superintendents, bishops and accreditation commission at the association responsible for setting school policies never formulated policy specific to the HPV vaccine.

McGettrick said "it's a non-issue for us" because the HPV vaccine was never added to the state's list of required immunizations once lawmakers froze the order until the starting date of the 2011 regular legislative session.

Allison Castle, Perry's press secretary, said: "We consider (the order) null and void and (Perry) will not pursue it in the future."

En breve: Perry did issue an order requiring schoolgirls receive the HPV vaccine. In arguing that his order was not a mandate, Perry points to the Conscientious Objection to Immunization form that lets parents of public school students decline immunizations without consequence. The burden to file and refile the notarized forms on time falls on the parents.

However, our research determined that it's not certain the opt-out would have been accepted for the 15 percent of Texas girls attending private schools. Also unknown: Whether every Catholic school would have allowed students subject to Perry's order to abstain from the three HPV shots in the vaccination series.

Ultimately, the governor issued an order for the Health and Human Services Executive Commissioner to "adopt rules that mandate the age appropriate vaccination of all female children for HPV prior to admission to the sixth grade."

According to the Merriam-Webster dictionary, a mandate is "a clear instruction, authorization or direction." Perry says the executive order wasn't mandatory, which, according to Webster, means "demanded or required."

But that's what Perry's order did: it set up a requirement. Just because there's a loophole — a way to "say no," in the governor's parlance — doesn't mean the requirement doesn't exist. Physical education classes are also mandatory to graduate high school, but if you have any number of health conditions, you can skip the timed mile.

We rate Perry's claim Barely True.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cervicalcancer; enforcedmedicine; healthcare; hpv; nochoice4children; nochoice4you; vaccine
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To: MestaMachine

Hmmmm...I don’t understand the point. Because the media would hate him, he should shirk from running? What logic is that?


41 posted on 06/19/2011 1:57:02 AM PDT by indianrightwinger
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
It will be interesting to see how the MSM uses some conservatives' concerns on this to help Obama win re-election.

That is an extremely weak argument. As if the MSM will only bring this up because conservatives do. Also, you suggest that any criticisms of GOP primary candidates only serve to help Obama in the general.

What then? Shall we not vet our candidates because it might give the other side ammo? Nice argument. How has our current non-vetted President worked out for you?

This article focused on the HPV vaccine. There are plenty of other issues that the MSM will bring up about Perry's so-called conservatism - and they'll bring them up whether we do, or not.


42 posted on 06/19/2011 1:59:45 AM PDT by ziravan (Are you better off now than you were 7 Trillion Dollars ago?)
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To: ziravan
.............This article focused on the HPV vaccine. There are plenty of other issues that the MSM will bring up about Perry's so-called conservatism - and they'll bring them up whether we do, or not.

I posted this thread, to what, hide the HPV issue? No.

I posted it to discuss it.

Post your other Perry issues.

Let's get it out there.

43 posted on 06/19/2011 2:04:06 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: ziravan

That is rigth on. Vetting Governor Perry on this issue is absolutely the right thing to do. In fact, like I said in my other posts, he erred on this issue and should simply say so.


44 posted on 06/19/2011 2:04:22 AM PDT by indianrightwinger
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To: MestaMachine
Ultimately, the governor issued an order for the Health and Human Services Executive Commissioner to "adopt rules that mandate the age appropriate vaccination of all female children for HPV prior to admission to the sixth grade."

Then it goes on....

According to the Merriam-Webster dictionary, a mandate is "a clear instruction, authorization or direction." Perry says the executive order wasn't mandatory, which, according to Webster, means "demanded or required."

When they pull out the dictionary MestaMachine, you have to get a bit skeptical about their purpose.

45 posted on 06/19/2011 2:08:38 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Old News?

I did not realize there was a statute of limitations on poor political decisions.

So, according to you, any decision an elected official made prior to 2008 should not be discussed?


46 posted on 06/19/2011 2:09:32 AM PDT by trumandogz
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To: indianrightwinger

Texas occupies a very unique place in this country. It’s almost a world of its own. It’s a great state and it is full of great people, but outside of Texas, what is unique to Texas is really not in the public awareness. No one really pays that much attention to perry, per se. That would change if he was to run for national office and perry is as unique to Texas as Texas is to the rest of the US. GWB got some scrutiny, but not nearly what he would have if poppi bush wasn’t his daddy. Perry does not have that luxury or that backup and perry is not without warts, idiosyncrasies, and big money ties that would not sit well with a lot of people. He looks good from far away.


48 posted on 06/19/2011 2:12:15 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Sarah Palin is the mirror by which evil reflects back upon itself until consumed out of existence)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Why should any governor be issuing executive orders for HPV vaccination?

Shouldn’t that be the parent’s/child’s choice?

I want far less government in my life. I don’t want the do-gooders forcing on me what they think is best for me.


49 posted on 06/19/2011 2:13:28 AM PDT by DB
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Oh, I AM skeptical about THEIR purpose, but I also wonder how an executive order that is a MANDATE is not mandatory for the reason stated in my original post.


50 posted on 06/19/2011 2:17:49 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Sarah Palin is the mirror by which evil reflects back upon itself until consumed out of existence)
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To: truthfreedom

From your LINK:

“...Gov. Rick Perry may not be the spider, but he certainly has become one of the strands in the web of international conspiracy for those who see a stealth plan to merge the United States with Canada and Mexico...”

From my brain:

Get a grip.


51 posted on 06/19/2011 2:21:50 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

If a person can opt out, then it is voluntary. Whether the Governor issued an exec order is a matter of record. He did. That means the system is geared toward delivering the vaccination (as it is with any vaccination). If, however, one can opt out of vaccinations, and they can, then one cannot claim to have been forced to receive a vaccination.


52 posted on 06/19/2011 2:23:14 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: MestaMachine
........ Perry does not have that luxury or that backup and perry is not without warts, idiosyncrasies, and big money ties that would not sit well with a lot of people. He looks good from far away.

Remind me again, who would Perry be running against?

53 posted on 06/19/2011 2:23:14 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

We are talking primaries here. Let’s get through those first.


54 posted on 06/19/2011 2:25:49 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Sarah Palin is the mirror by which evil reflects back upon itself until consumed out of existence)
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To: DB
Why should any governor be issuing executive orders for HPV vaccination? Shouldn’t that be the parent’s/child’s choice?......

If you had chosen not to have this for your daughter, it would be your choice.

As for less government, look at Perry's record. He is for getting the Feds off our backs.

55 posted on 06/19/2011 2:26:47 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: MestaMachine
.....I also wonder how an executive order that is a MANDATE is not mandatory for the reason stated in my original post.

It's spelled out in the thread text at the beginning of this thread.

56 posted on 06/19/2011 2:28:09 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: xzins
.....If, however, one can opt out of vaccinations, and they can, then one cannot claim to have been forced to receive a vaccination.

That's right.

57 posted on 06/19/2011 2:29:52 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

BS. It was initially MANDATORY but thousands of parents , including my self were NEVER going to give my girls that stupid vaccine. My question was “why not make it mandatory for boys since they are the vector for the virus?”.

Perry WAS a democrat. Look at who he supported in the past. Look at what kind of cr@p he tried to pull with toll roads, vaccines and non enforcement of our border.

He got conservative when his hair started matching Romney’s


58 posted on 06/19/2011 2:30:33 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat, they sh#t on.)
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To: Dick Vomer
BS. It was initially MANDATORY but thousands of parents , including my self were NEVER going to give my girls that stupid vaccine. My question was “why not make it mandatory for boys since they are the vector for the virus?”.

Do you think this was a conspiracy toward girls? Please explain. Also, how was the Gov going to make ALL TX girls have this shot? How was that going to happen? (clue -- it wasn't).

Perry WAS a democrat. Look at who he supported in the past. Look at what kind of cr@p he tried to pull with toll roads, vaccines and non enforcement of our border.

So was Ronald Reagan.

He got conservative when his hair started matching Romney’s

It's good to see you have a sense of humor.

59 posted on 06/19/2011 2:36:20 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

yeah, I don’t want to jump on board with that article, but I thought that one part was really quite something, since it had Paul v Perry and it was 4 years ago.

The question of Bilderberg which Perry attended is not one that’s going to go away.


60 posted on 06/19/2011 2:43:07 AM PDT by truthfreedom
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