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Zeta captives have to fight or die
San Antonio Express News ^ | 15 June 2011 | Dane Schiller

Posted on 06/19/2011 4:51:49 AM PDT by Racehorse

In one of the most chilling revelations yet about the violence in Mexico, a drug cartel-connected trafficker claims fellow gangsters have kidnapped highway bus passengers and forced them into gladiatorlike fights to groom fresh assassins.

The elderly are killed. Women raped. And able-bodied men are given hammers, machetes and sticks and forced to fight to the death.

In an interview arranged by intermediaries on condition neither his name nor the location of his Texas visit be published, the trafficker also admitted to helping push $5 million to $10 million a month worth of cocaine into the U.S.

Law-enforcement sources confirm he is a cartel operative, but not a fugitive from pending charges.

If what he says is true, gangsters who commonly practice beheadings, hangings and quarterings of bodies have managed an even crueler twist to their barbarity.

Members of the Zetas cartel, he says, have pushed passengers into an ancient Roman-like blood sport with a modern Mexico twist that they call, 'Who is going to be the next hit man?'"

"They cut guys to pieces," he said.

The victims are likely among the hundreds of people found in mass graves in recent months, he said.

In the vicinity of the Mexican city of San Fernando, about 85 miles from Brownsville, nearly 200 bodies were unearthed from pits and authorities said most appeared to have died from blunt-force trauma to the head.

Many are believed to have been dragged off buses traveling through Mexico, but little has been said about the circumstances of their deaths.

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"The stuff you would not think possible a few years ago is now commonplace," said Peter Hanna, a retired FBI agent. "It used to be you'd find dead bodies in drums with acid; now, there are beheadings."

(Excerpt) Read more at mysanantonio.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Mexico
KEYWORDS: border; cartels; doj4terrorists; drugcartel; drugs; holder4criminals; holder4terrorists; holderspeople; legalizeharddrugs; libertarians; medicalmarijuana; mexico; zetas
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To: Caipirabob
Seems to me the only option for captives is to resist the Zetas every opportunity possible

Suppose Mexico decided to enact their version of our 2nd Amendment.

I would guess that these bus hijackings would become a think of the past.

21 posted on 06/19/2011 6:09:37 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I carrying this lantern? you ask. I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Racehorse

Many of the Zetas are ex-military trained by the USA

They do stuff a lot worse than what this article describes

They probably have more weapons then our forces.

And they cross our borders with absolutely no problems and have groups all over the US


22 posted on 06/19/2011 6:12:42 AM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: Norm Lenhart
Yes you are correct, the Mexican people are some of the kindest people on earth but their country is corrupt from top to bottom.

This article was in last Sundays Houston Chronicle and I cut it out for my housekeeper because they always go home to San Luis Potese every summer.

They knew better than to drive in their truck but had planned on taking the bus....... until she read this article.

She then told me about something that recently happened to a neighbor. They were coming home from Mexico and got stopped on the road and their truck was taken.

Standing on the side of the road another truck stopped and they told them “the Zetas stole our truck”. The new gang said “no, we are the Zetas”.

The new gang took off after the truck and when they came back with it, they said “don't open the ice chest in the back, wait until you get to the river and dump the contents”.

They did as they were told and the ice chest was full of the heads of the first gang.

I have known this woman for 15 or 20 years and I have never known her to tell me anything that wasn't true so I believe her.

23 posted on 06/19/2011 6:19:38 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Lazamataz

Invade Mexico? And then what? Every Mexican who is able will be stampeding north straight for the border. Build a wall, not a fence and keep them out.


24 posted on 06/19/2011 6:22:57 AM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Racehorse

Decriminalize drugs today and this will stop tomorrow.


25 posted on 06/19/2011 6:24:37 AM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: GBA

Refugees?

If they are refugees, how do you explain the fact the “refugees” from southern Mexico and other Central American countries that are coming here, head north into the violent areas instead of heading south away from the violent areas?


26 posted on 06/19/2011 6:24:46 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: GBA

The Mexican people are responsible for the situation their country is in. They and they alone created the mess, they need to fix their country. I’m sick and tired of my taxes going to Mexico. I don’t want US soldiers dying in Mexico for something the Mexicans are responsible for.


27 posted on 06/19/2011 6:26:00 AM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Ditter

I believe it, and I agree that the corruption there is total. As bad as the Zeta’s are, I think the Govt/pols are just as bad. The Mex military is nothing but an enforcement wing for their ‘dealings’. Many a story down there of the same kind of things happening at Federalies checkpoints - cars taken, people vanishing etc. long before the Zetas ever came on the scene. With Mexican friends, I’m sure you’ve heard the stories as well.


28 posted on 06/19/2011 6:31:12 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Racehorse

Build a fence then give drones to the Mexicans to kill the Zeta leadership. But reason we don’t do this is we figure the Zetas will retaliate by bringing Muslim terrorists across the border


29 posted on 06/19/2011 6:33:53 AM PDT by dennisw (NZT - "works better if you're already smart")
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To: jmacusa

I don’t want it either, but the reality is that at some point, the American military is going to have to defend our border and cross theirs to stop the growing violence that is hitting here now.

Sadly, the Mexicans will never do it. We eventually will have no choice, thanks in part to decades of our own stupidity.


30 posted on 06/19/2011 6:35:15 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: dennisw

That’s like giving weapons to Pakistan to fight the Taliban/Al’Q. That hasn’t worked out so well wither. Besides, we have already given MexGov all kinds of hardware and training. The Zetas are now armed with it.


31 posted on 06/19/2011 6:38:12 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: jmacusa; Norm Lenhart; Elendur; AmericanInTokyo
Invade Mexico.

Fire every judge who has any suspicion of wrongdoing.

Fire every law enforcement officer who has any suspicion of wrongdoing.

Set up a few base camps from which the United States may launch 'Kinetic Military Actions' against drug gangs.

Oversee fair elections.

Stay for a while and wring the damned drug gangs out of that country.

It would be a much tougher go than Afganistan and Iraq, but the payoff would be higher.

32 posted on 06/19/2011 6:41:09 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: Racehorse

There is something in humanity that seems to naturally decline into a barbarous state. What can the devil possibly think up that people do not already do or have done to one another. When people ask me why I own guns, I wonder if they ever really read the news.


33 posted on 06/19/2011 6:42:03 AM PDT by dog breath
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To: Lazamataz

Not seeing a flaw in your plan/logic.


34 posted on 06/19/2011 6:45:40 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: KosmicKitty

Stating the obvious, the war on drugs has become just that. A war.

Our government has failed us utterly. First and foremost by not protecting our sovereignty. Lock down the border with the military and stop this invasion of people and contraband.

Legalize pot and cocaine. Neither drug is anymore destructive than a bottle of whiskey. In the land of the free, one should be free to destroy ones self if one is so inclined. Take the money out of drug running, and much of this problem will solve itself.


35 posted on 06/19/2011 6:46:48 AM PDT by phoneman08 (Reagan conservative union member. Not as rare as you think!)
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To: Norm Lenhart

We are Texans and have made many many trips to Mexico over the years, hunting, fishing and vacationing. Never again! We had several scary things happen to us personally before we gave it up and decided to never go back.

Our first bad indication of the corruption was when my husbands uncle died in Mexico of natural causes. The family had to actually buy his body back from the city of Cozumel before we could get him back for burial.

They had just tossed his body into a cooler, not even laying him out straight. When finally enough money had been paid we sent a private plane with a casket but because of the way he was dump he wouldn’t fit into a normal casket. So we had to find a bigger casket and a bigger plane. After thousands of dollars had been spent we got Uncle Jack home for burial.


36 posted on 06/19/2011 6:47:02 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Norm Lenhart
Not seeing a flaw in your plan/logic.

Well, I see two flaws:

  1. Democrats.
  2. Republicans.

37 posted on 06/19/2011 6:48:15 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: Racehorse
What Mexico needs is a 2nd Amendment.

Bad guys have guns. Good guys don't.

Gun bans do make you safe -- if you are a drug lord.

38 posted on 06/19/2011 6:58:44 AM PDT by Tribune7 (We're flat broke, but he thinks these solar shingles and really fast trains will magically save us.)
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To: Lazamataz

We would have to stay in Mexico forever, corruption is ingrained, I have been told he came with the Spanish. You know how long they have been gone and the corruption is still there. Everybody with any station in Mexico has their hand out.


39 posted on 06/19/2011 6:59:07 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter

There was a story one of the Factory bike team guys told me (and I checked, it was true). The Japaneese CEO types have a deal with one of the bike manufacturers where they pay X dollars for a bike and total pit support for the Baja races. They fly in, do the race (often only part of it) and then ship the mud covered bike back to their company HQ still covered in mud to display as a ‘trophy’ of their experience. Nothing wrong with that IMO.

One year one of them went down hard and was killed. Knowing the crap/bribes etc that has to be gone through (as was your experience), the Factory guys contacted the Japaneese consulate in San Diego who said basically “get him back however you can and we’ll deal with the fallout.”

They rolled the dude up in astroturf/carpet that they lay down in the pits and buried him under a ton of parts, bikes and other stuff in the Factory pit van. They then drove straight through the border and met the Japaneese reps at a hospital where all the paperwork, police, US feds etc were waiting.

When MexGov found out they had a total screaming, threatening fit. The Japaneese basically said basically “Shut up or we pull our money and manufacturing out of your country.”

MexGov did as they were told.


40 posted on 06/19/2011 7:01:19 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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